I'm new to using DSG so I'm just getting the hang of things.

 

When I stop at traffic lights, I apply the handbrake and pop the car in neutral, seems the most logical thing to do unless you know you're not going to be stopped for long.

 

The issue is, the process I'm following to pull away doesn't feel right....

 

- apply foot brake
- switch from neutral to drive
- apply throttle which disengages the handbrake and away you go

What feels wrong is applying the foot brake to switch into drive, because that will then apply the brake lights won't it? or do the brake lights not light up when you have the hand brake applied?

I generally just use autohold, brake lights are still on then. Only apply handbrake when stuck in a long queue which will then turn the brake lights off.

 

Never bother putting it in neutral

If you have a manual Parking / hand brake then that is what you have to do. If you don't want to sit with the Brake Lights on.

 

If you have 'Autohold' 

then the driver needs to check. Is your car one that has the Rear Brake Lights on in Autohold, or one that does not.  Many seem not to know or care.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/432645-vw-group-auto-hold-do-the-rear-brake-lights-come-on

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/433302-auto-hold-brake-lights

 

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

15 minutes ago, Q102 said:

I generally just use autohold, brake lights are still on then. Only apply handbrake when stuck in a long queue which will then turn the brake lights off.

 

Never bother putting it in neutral

Same here.  If I'm stopped for a longer period then I'd likely put it in 'N' but I usually just allow autohold (green symbol) to engage and keep me in situ with the car still in 'D'.  What I have go into the habit of doing is pulling the lever down to go into Sport mode before stopping at busy junctions and roundabouts; it just allows a better response to get away a little quicker. 

 

When autohold is engaged the brake lights will be illuminated. 

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by penguin17

So best to get them coded out if in the UK and forget the EU manufacturers that ignore the UK Highway code and the bit about prolonged stops and the Parking Brake.

Don't think I've ever engaged neutral in my 3 years of ownership!

 

Just let autohold do it's job.   At least with the brake lights on the guy behind me can see for sure I'm stopped 

 

Also use the sport mode flick when wanting away a bit quicker.

 

All makes the car a joy to drive- you dont really have to do anything at junctions apart from brake and go.

5 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

So best to get them coded out if in the UK and forget the EU manufacturers that ignore the UK Highway code and the bit about prolonged stops and the Parking Brake.

I'm not bothered by the car in front's brake lights being on, but if you want to be nice to the person behind you, applying the park brake manually will turn off your brake lights. The park brake releases automatically when you drive away too.

@Mickey43

If i am stopped behind you in the rain for a long time in Glasgow i might be the one putting on my Full Beam when sitting there as long as there is no traffic coming in the other direction.

If I see I am going to be stood for a while I always go into neutral and engage the hand / button brake.

Don't like the thought of clutch maybe not being disengaged and the lights on.

@Gomezz

Do you have Stop / Start switched off then?

4 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Gomezz

Do you have Stop / Start switched off then?

Yes I always do.

Many put off Stop / Start for just driving and stopping, but for prolonged stops where choosing N and worrying about clutches and parking brakes 

it makes sense to have Stop / Start on and Autohold enabled.  (As long as not Autohold with Brake Light on when you are not the last car in the line...)

Each to their own.

1 hour ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Mickey43

If i am stopped behind you in the rain for a long time in Glasgow i might be the one putting on my Full Beam when sitting there as long as there is no traffic coming in the other direction.

I'll keep an eye out for you and give you a wave! 

 

 

Yesterday was a quick run down the M77 and through Glasgow it was Newbridge Edinburgh where the miles of gridlock was. 3 times i needed to go that way.

Not rainy though..

2 hours ago, TheBinarySheep said:

I'm new to using DSG so I'm just getting the hang of things.

 

When I stop at traffic lights, I apply the handbrake and pop the car in neutral, seems the most logical thing to do unless you know you're not going to be stopped for long.

 

The issue is, the process I'm following to pull away doesn't feel right....

 

- apply foot brake
- switch from neutral to drive
- apply throttle which disengages the handbrake and away you go

What feels wrong is applying the foot brake to switch into drive, because that will then apply the brake lights won't it? or do the brake lights not light up when you have the hand brake applied?

Going through that palaver every time you stop negates any benefit of having a DSG over a manual. 

I’ve only had DSG for 2 years but have used the autohold from day one, and if I’m going to be stopped long flick the stop/ start button on.

 

 

 

My stop/start is always on and if the lights are going to be red for more than a few seconds I put the gearlever to Park and electronic handbrake on so my bright LED rear brake lights are not annoying people like George behind me particularly in the rain. Am I old fashioned yes but after 18 days and 680 miles I have only put £50 of Tesco Momentum in my 268bhp petrol Superb and maxidot says I'm averaging 37.5mpg so who cares if it's not the right proceedure.

@shyVRS245

That annoys me, but anything can.  Flashing the Reverse lights going to P and coming out of P.  Totally takes the Pee!

 

Pee S.

Enjoy however you do it, someone with very bright lights can let you know if they are bugged.

I even flash the Full Beams at Police Officers driving cars marked or not if the sit loads of minutes with the foot on the Brake Pedal or have no idea if the rear brake lights are on.  eg Volvos mostly.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

16 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@shyVRS245

That annoys me, but anything can.  Flashing the Reverse lights going to P and coming out of P.  Totally takes the Pee!

 

Pee S.

Enjoy however you do it, someone with very bright lights can let you know if they are bugged.

I even flash the Full Beams at Police Officers driving cars marked or not if the sit loads of minutes with the foot on the Brake Pedal or have no idea if the rear brake lights are on.  eg Volvos mostly.

Ensures person behind me is paying attention and good for their heart when they see me put it into REVERSE TWICE.

Why would brake lights being on annoy you anyway?

 

I see it all the time and it doesn't bother me in the least.  It's not as if it's fog lights or full beam in your face.

What makes a difference is what you are driving or riding when behind certain cars in certain weather.

Skoda Superb brake lights are probably just as annoying as the front lights on some where the owner seems to be a special person with special needs.

Likely their mother told them what would happen to their eyesight and they never listened.

Edited 15 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Well, well, well as they say, "you learn something new every day"!

I'd assumed over the last few weeks of Skoda ownership that auto hold applied the EPB and the brake lights would be off once I took my foot off the pedal, now I know that's not the case I'll apply it manually.  While I'm not anally retentive about it I think sitting there with your foot on the brakes is just a lazy/poor driving habit which can wind up other drivers particularly at night or in rain etc.  Karma, be courteous to other drivers and maybe they'll be courteous to you - or what comes around, goes around. 

Is it also true that if you slip the DSG into neutral, say at lights, it won't necessarily disengage the gears? 

13 hours ago, Kenny R said:

Going through that palaver every time you stop negates any benefit of having a DSG over a manual. 

I’ve only had DSG for 2 years but have used the autohold from day one, and if I’m going to be stopped long flick the stop/ start button on.

Exactly. And it's not like an Octavia where it actively tries to pull away when you engage the parking brake while in drive. I doubt that engaging the EPB while in drive instead of neutral will have any marked decrease in longevity of the DSG.

Edited 16 January, 20206 yr by ZacDaMan72

19 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@shyVRS245

I even flash the Full Beams at Police Officers driving cars marked or not if the sit loads of minutes with the foot on the Brake Pedal or have no idea if the rear brake lights are on.  eg Volvos mostly.

 

I would have thought flashing high beam lights in that situation would be illegal.

@octagonalman

You might think so.  A flash of full beam at the rear of a stationary car, compared to them sitting for a long time, and every time they move and stop again which can be going on over an extended period on the A720 Edinburgh By-Pass.

You might also say, two wrongs do not make a right.

 

But then maybe Trained Police Officers should think on the UK highway code and not sit with rear brake lights on when sitting for prolonged periods in traffic like all those round them.  The last one that got out to ask what the problem was fully understood.  The thing was, it was the sidekick from the passengers seat and his driver / partner in crime fighting still had the foot on the brake pedal of the XC90.

Edited 16 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Are you worried about clutch wear? Or about your brake lights lighting up for a second before you set off? 

The process you describe is just a manual transmission's habbit and is simply not needed with a DSG. There is no extra wear as when depressing the brake pedal firmly or even just normally and stopping fully, the DSG will disengage the gear and there is no wear of the clutch to worry about. The only times I ever switch to P while stopped in the car is when there is an accident ahead or I have stopped for a purpose and need to stay in the car for a while. Never during normal traffic though.