New karoq, 234 miles on the clock and this morning the rear view mirror was hanging down, supported only by the wires for the bits and bobs in the unit. Finding this at 0630 in the morning just as going to work was a bit of a shocker. Luckily, black masking tape held it in place until i got it to the local dealers. The workshop manager came out and stood looking at it with his mouth open for at least a minute as he had never seen this before and then took a plethora of photos, I unfortunately, did not! There was an adhesive backing still stuck to the windscreen, nothing appeared broken, loose, missing and there was no way the mirror would / could be re-attached to the backing on the windscreen. Unfortunately, the workshop does not hold the requisite adhesive as it's a special to type compound and therefore had to be ordered specially and will be fixed tomorrow. Apparently it takes approx 2.5hrs for the glue to set and must be cured correcty otherwise it affects the operation of the electronics via vapours, (suppose they react something like superglue vapours react to greasy fingerprints).

 

One thing to note which I thought was a little odd, with the light switch on auto, and intermittent selected on the windscreen wiper stalk, normally, the wiper operated intermittently as it should do, varying the frequency depending on the amount of water on the windscreen. BUT with the mirror not attached to the windscreen, there was no intermittent operation of the windscreen wiper either with the light switch in auto (obvious if the sensor is not attached to the window), or in manual mode where you can select the wiper frequency. You can bet your bottom dollar that this is going to be checked tomorrow before I drive away from the dealership. Hopefully will be able to post that all is well tomorrow.

Jeez, that's not good. Sounds like it may need re-calibrated too. You're right, defo check everything is working after the car is repaired.

How heavy are those fluffy dice? .........  😉

Not really heavy, but.......................................

 

It's not good news. The car is still at the dealers, it would appear that the adhesive compound / sticky stuff that is stuck to the windscreen will not come off and a specialist windscreen-sticky-stuff-remover gadget is required. What exactly I don't know. As I'm not going to be able to pick it up before I have to work away, SWMBO is going to have to pick it up once it's done, to that end I must now explain in great detail what she must do to ensure that all is as it should be. Sometimes I wonder if the advances in technology are advances or just something sent to bug the heck out of us. 🤬

1 hour ago, Canders said:

It's not good news. The car is still at the dealers,............🤬

 

Makes me wonder how the chaps who come to sort out your broken windscreen manage. At one time, I seemed to be getting a cracked screen every year. 😮 

Edited 23 January, 20206 yr by StEdmund
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54 minutes ago, StEdmund said:

 

Makes me wonder how the chaps who come to sort out your broken windscreen manage. At one time, I seemed to be getting a cracked screen every year. 😮 

 

I've had two on a Golf in quick succession - I seem to recall the new screens come with a pad already fitted / built in to take the various bits that populate the upper centre section.....? 

Edited 23 January, 20206 yr by Berisford

StEdmund, good point, perhaps the dealer is waiting for the windscreen chaps as they may have the the correct tool. It maybe that there is a new windscreen inbound (unlikely, but who knows). Will have to wait and see what SWMBO tells me when she picks the car up.

 

Berisford, the pad that was left on the windscreen was, oddly, in no way sticky. My initial attempt to stick the mirror back on failed, hence the need for masking tape. Can you remember if the new windscreens you had fitted to the Golf accepted the mirror and that there was no need to calibrate anything post change, or get VCDS or similar involved. The lack of intermittent wiper capability is puzzling.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Canders said:

The lack of intermittent wiper capability is puzzling.

 

You mentioned above re: intermittent wiper not working because sensor was detatched. But then you mentioned manual mode?

 

When you say manual mode are you talking about when the wiper runs at a steady constant speed or fast speed? There's no manual mode for the intermittent wiper - the adjustment on the stalk only varies the sensitivity of the sensor. So if the sensor is detached in anyway, I wouldn't expect the intermittent function to work.  

Mine has two modes of operation. If the light switch is in the Auto position, the frequency of the intermittent wipe function is governed by the amount of water on the windscreen, more water, more frequently the wipe operates. However, if the light switch is in any other position other than Auto, the frequency of the intermittent wipe function is controlled by the small switch on top of the wiper stalk, all the way to the left, large time delay between the wipes, all the way to the right, short time delay between wipes. If there's no water on the windscreen, the intermittent wipe function still operates at a frequency determined by the small switch on the top.

 

Is mine different? 

 

Does anyone have a VCDS scan of the system so that I can check it against mine. Unfortunately, i'm not in a position to check immediately as I'm away from my home computer, but I will compare once I get back.

 

1 hour ago, Canders said:

 

Berisford, the pad that was left on the windscreen was, oddly, in no way sticky. My initial attempt to stick the mirror back on failed, hence the need for masking tape. Can you remember if the new windscreens you had fitted to the Golf accepted the mirror and that there was no need to calibrate anything post change, or get VCDS or similar involved. The lack of intermittent wiper capability is puzzling.

 

 

There's nothing too critical on the Golf, just the auto wipers and auto lights. 

 

I'm sure the new windscreens came with a peel off backing revealing a sticky pad to which the windscreen guy simply stick the mirror and other device onto, no calibrating needed.

2 hours ago, Canders said:

Mine has two modes of operation. If the light switch is in the Auto position, the frequency of the intermittent wipe function is governed by the amount of water on the windscreen, more water, more frequently the wipe operates. However, if the light switch is in any other position other than Auto, the frequency of the intermittent wipe function is controlled by the small switch on top of the wiper stalk, all the way to the left, large time delay between the wipes, all the way to the right, short time delay between wipes. If there's no water on the windscreen, the intermittent wipe function still operates at a frequency determined by the small switch on the top.

 

That's an interesting observation ........ the lights on our Karoq are permanently on 'auto', and I had noticed that the switch on top of the wiper stalk didn't seem to do much. I'll try taking the lights off 'auto' and check wiper intermittency. The same observation goes for my wife's B-max.

I daresay there is something about this buried deep within the owner's manual. 

StEdmund, ask and you shall receive, excerpt from the owners manual. Thankfully I'm not blessed with some weird one off vehicle characteristic.

 

karoq windscreen washer.doc

karoq windscreen washer.doc

 

Tried to print screen and attach to word doc. Might not have worked. It's in the manual, different manuals for the same car have it on different pages, it's under lighting and windscreen wipers in the index.

Edited 24 January, 20206 yr by Canders

The position of the headlight switch has no effect on the operation of the wiper stalk.

 

The first position up from 'off' is either 'intermittent' or 'Auto', depending on the specification of the car.

 

If it has automatic rain sensing wipers then the wipers operate according to the mount of rain on the screen. The rocker switch on the top of the stalk alters the sensitivity of the sensor.

 

If the car does not have rain sensing wipers then the wipers operate intermittently at preset intervals. The rocker switch increases or decreases the time in between the intermittent wipes.

 

Final update, I had a short circuit in the mirror wiring, a wire was trapped, which prevented full adhesion of the sticky stuff. Since it's been sorted, as silver pointed out, I now have only the auto capability as noted above. I do now have another issue now though, the rear door open warning as posted on her. Oh well, onwards and upwards.