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So I was looking on the Skoda website at the newer Fabia Monte Carlo and saw that it came with sport suspension and wondered if any of the ones from 2015 had an option to add sport/lowered suspension. If so would I still be able to call them up and get it done?

On 22/02/2020 at 11:26, Aviii said:

So I was looking on the Skoda website at the newer Fabia Monte Carlo and saw that it came with sport suspension and wondered if any of the ones from 2015 had an option to add sport/lowered suspension. If so would I still be able to call them up and get it done?

 

Your dealership will source and fit the sport/lowered suspension, it'll be expensive though. You're better off buying Eibachs or something and having an inde do it.

I was having a look at the lowering springs, are they not too short or stiff for the shocks?

21 minutes ago, Aviii said:

I was having a look at the lowering springs, are they not too short or stiff for the shocks?

 

The Skoda Fabia will come with many different standard front springs that are closely matched to the weight of the engine/gearbox/airconditioning combination.

 

For example, if there were 3 different diesel engines, 3 different petrol engines, manual and automatic gearbox options, and with and without air conditioning options, there could be 24 different front springs. There isn't this many options, but it gives you the general idea.

 

If you then fit front sports springs, you are replacing these 24 different front springs (for example) with just one spring. It's hardly a careful well thought out approach. It is a one size fits all approach.

 

So by fitting lowering springs, you are fitting much harder springs to avoid the risk of regular bottoming out of the suspension, and the spring rates haven't even been carefully selected.

 

Someone on here fitted lowering springs to his Superb. However, the handling ended up far from superb as the standard shocks were too soft for the now much harder springs.

 

Expect to be disappointed with the results...and to add insult to injury, so called "sports" springs are often sold at twice the price of standard springs.

Edited by Carlston

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

The Skoda Fabia will come with many different standard front springs that are closely matched to the weight of the engine/gearbox/airconditioning combination.

 

For example, if there were 3 different diesel engines, 3 different petrol engines, manual and automatic gearbox options, and with and without air conditioning options, there could be 24 different front springs. There isn't this many options, but it gives you the general idea.

 

If you then fit front sports springs, you are replacing these 24 different front springs (for example) with just one spring. It's hardly a careful well thought out approach. It is a one size fits all approach.

 

So by fitting lowering springs, you are fitting much harder springs to avoid the risk of regular bottoming out of the suspension, and the spring rates haven't even been carefully selected.

 

Someone on here fitted lowering springs to his Superb. However, the handling ended up far from superb as the standard shocks were too soft for the now much harder springs.

 

Expect to be disappointed with the results...and to add insult to injury, so called "sports" springs are often sold at twice the price of standard springs.


Springs have a load range, you'll probably find there's only maybe 3-4 sets of front springs (small petrols with manuals, petrol with dsg, diesels, diesel with dsg) and 2 sets of rear springs (hatch & estate).

 

Eibachs are similar where there's two main variants for each. One for petrols up to but not including the 1.2 dsg, and the other for the 1.2 dsg and diesels.

 

Eibachs are made with a progressive spring rate, meaning when compressed less (standard driving) they are softer, but they stiffen up when compressed (cornering hard etc). They're designed to work with oe shocks but they can be a little soft, they're best with Billstein B8 shocks which are a little shorter to ensure the proper preload of springs under extreme unloading, and a little harder, eliminating the floatiness during standard driving.

 

I've ridden in a Fabia with eibachs and B8's and the ride felt better than stock in almost every aspect. High speeds were no longer floaty, and the car felt planted at all times.

 

That's the route i'll be going once i have the funds for it.

1 hour ago, FabiaGonzales said:

I've ridden in a Fabia with eibachs and B8's and the ride felt better than stock in almost every aspect. High speeds were no longer floaty, and the car felt planted at all times.

 

Just like "sports" springs being twice the price of standard ride height springs, Bilstein B8's are twice the price of standard ride height Bilstein B4's.

3 hours ago, FabiaGonzales said:

...you'll probably find there's only maybe 3-4 sets of front springs (small petrols with manuals, petrol with dsg, diesels, diesel with dsg)... and 2 sets of rear springs (hatch & estate).

 

On the Skoda Fabia MK3 hatchback, there are different front springs for the 1.0 litre petrol without turbo, 1.2 litre petrol turbo manual, 1.2 litre petrol turbo automatic, 1.4 diesel turbo. So that's 4 different front springs there, and that list doesn't include front springs for the 1.0 litre petrol with turbo, 1.4 litre petrol turbo, and 1.6 petrol.

 

Definitely more than only 3-4 standard sets of front springs for the Skoda Fabia MK3.

If I wanted to replace the springs and shocks, where would the best place be to buy them? I’ve had a look on eBay but they don’t do the shocks.

1 hour ago, Aviii said:

If I wanted to replace the springs and shocks, where would the best place be to buy them? I’ve had a look on eBay but they don’t do the shocks.


dpmperformance does the eibach springs, make sure you get the right ones for your engine & gearbox combination

 

autodoc and other car parts sites have the shocks

 

B4 is original, B6 is slightly firmer, B8 is same as B6 but also shorter as they're made for lowering springs

Oh thanks, I’ll have a look at them😁

@Carlston  When you are looking at 2014 on Mk3 Fabia springs.

The only 1.4 petrol Mk3 Fabia is the R5 Limited Edition 1.4tsi 125ps DSG's in Left hand drive only.

There are no Mk3 1.6 Fabia petrols.

6 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@Carlston  Where are you looking at 2014 on Mk3 Fabia springs.

The only 1.4 petrol Mk3 Fabia is the R5 Limited Edition 1.4tsi 125ps DSG's in Left hand drive only.

There are no Mk3 1.6 Fabia petrols.

 

autodoc shows 1.4 and 1.6 petrols.

@Carlston   It might well.  As i said there was only the limited No of Fabia R5 Limited edition 1.4TSI DSG 125ps models and they used Eibach springs as used as a Dealer Option on Mk2 Fabia vRS.

http://skoda.co.uk/news/details/fabia-limited-edition

& no 1.6 Petrol, 

other than the AWD Fabia Globally other than Skoda Rally Customer Rally R5's and they have Coilovers. 

 

https://www.john-clark.co.uk/skoda/latest-news/skoda-fabia-r5-rally-car

 

Bottom was 180,000 euro.  Around 220,000 now will get you one.

 

 

 

 

Edited by Roottootemblowinootsoot

The Skoda Fabia MK3 is sold in Ukraine with a 1.6 petrol engine.

Edited by Carlston

Skoda cars aren't sold in all counties around the world such as the US and Canada. See the link below for a map of where Skoda cars are sold. There may be a number of Skoda factories around the world producing for local markets. VW for example may have plants all around the world, such as Europe, US, Russia, China, India, Mexico, Brazil, etc. Sometimes old models are still made elsewhere in the world. Mexico was still producing the original VW Beetle long after Europe had stopped making it.

 

https://www.skoda-auto.com/company/importers

Edited by Carlston

3 hours ago, Carlston said:

The Skoda Fabia MK3 is sold in Ukraine with a 1.6 petrol engine.

 

Do Autodoc deliver to the Ukraine?

 

Thanks AG Falco

1 hour ago, AGFalco said:

 

Do Autodoc deliver to the Ukraine?

 

Thanks AG Falco

 

I've no idea.

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