Shock, horror, youtube guy with history of posting anti EV, takes a spin on a small tax change that wouldn't affect most people, presents it as anti ICE.

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

If you buy a pre-registered car, then this will not apply, and as we all know, they are effectively new cars and the first years tax is being paid by the dealer pre-registering it?

Correct, you will have to pay the follow on rate. But the dealer will have had to pay the first year rate which will push prices up.

'now based in Australia'.... so knows very little about whats happening on the ground in the UK and evidently gets his news from the Daily Heil. Really balanced piece....

These VED changes will make ICE vehicles more expensive for most but I suspect the effect will be most stark on leasing prices where VED is paid as part of the monthly. For those buying (whatever form it takes), VED is an often overlooked part of the cost of ownership, so likely will not be a factor in the buying decision.

Am I the only one who has stumbled across this news alleged to have come from Tesla?

 

 

16 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Am I the only one who has stumbled across this news alleged to have come from Tesla?

 

 

 

Most of us can spot fake news in a second.

13 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Most of us can spot fake news in a second.

But what if it isn't?

4 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

But what if it isn't?

 

It does look like even a good fake. Musk head on a different body photo chop it looks to be and not what Musk is suppose to be focusing on at the moment.

 

 

Another clickbait one about aluminium ion but it's a long way off yet because it's too expensive.

47 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

m I the only one who has stumbled across this news alleged to have come from Tesla?

Why the assumption that I would watch a video from/by Dilbert Stark?

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

But what if it isn't?

If it isn't, why haven't Musk/ Tesla revealed this? 

 

6 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

If it isn't, why haven't Musk/ Tesla revealed this? 

 

That's what I was thinking, but then it wouldn't be the first time that something was "leaked" would it, happens a lot as a tester/teaser?

3 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

That's what I was thinking, but then it wouldn't be the first time that something was "leaked" would it, happens a lot as a tester/teaser?

I'm not convinced that's the case in this instance tbh. 

 

On 25/10/2024 at 23:27, Paws4Thot said:

VW type 1, Hillman Imp, as @Stonekeeper hints at some marks of Ford Zephyr/Zodiac... Ok, not in the grille, but in a front wing or under the rear number plate. And that's before I mention that some type 1s had the fuel filler under the front luggage cover...

my VW transporter has the filler cap inside the passenger door opening, you need to open the passenger door to open the filler 

On 24/10/2024 at 14:05, Luckypants said:

Well I feel they should have at least familiarised themselves with DC charging before setting off, but that seems par for Chinese designed cars. MG and now BYD have trouble with some chargers due to implementing the CCS specs a little loosely from all accounts. MG needed a few software updates to the MG4 to finally iron out the CCS gremlins with their cars. Tesla chargers are fine as long as you go to one that is open to all, just telling the sat nav to take you to a Tesla charger is no good if it is a Tesla only site - the video didn't say where they were or what the issue was.

I still plan long drives, not trusting to just being able to turn up and charge. Mainly this is to minimise costs and is also something I did in my ICE cars.

I plan but the plan never works out. 

On the latest trip (Livingston to Kidderminster at 300 miles)  I planned to stop at Preston, but by Carlisle my big mug of coffee 3 hours earlier meant I nearly wet myself by the time I got to the Tesla chargers at Todhills. Then the car was too full to charge at Preston and the traffic on the M6 was so bad that by the time I got to Stafford it was close to 2pm and I was ravenous (plus my bladder was urging me to stop). So my plan just went out of the window and I went with what the car told me was available. 
 

 

 

12 minutes ago, domhnall said:

my VW transporter has the filler cap inside the passenger door opening, you need to open the passenger door to open the filler 

Yes, there were a lot of early cars that filler caps in strange locations, like the Renault 10, Dauphine, Floride and the Fiat 850 had theirs in the rear engine compartment. 1956 Chevy had theirs behind a dropdown tail light, Humber's had theirs behind the O/S rear reflector, 1960s Land Rovers were under the Seats and some Porsches (dependent on which exact model and year, have theirs in the front wings and a few were under the front trunk.

17 minutes ago, domhnall said:

I plan but the plan never works out. 

On the latest trip (Livingston to Kidderminster at 300 miles)  I planned to stop at Preston, but by Carlisle my big mug of coffee 3 hours earlier meant I nearly wet myself by the time I got to the Tesla chargers at Todhills. Then the car was too full to charge at Preston and the traffic on the M6 was so bad that by the time I got to Stafford it was close to 2pm and I was ravenous (plus my bladder was urging me to stop). So my plan just went out of the window and I went with what the car told me was available. 
 

It is for these very reasons plus the planned route might well be closed to due to RTA's or Police incidents etc is why I always like to start any long trip with a trip to the PFS to brim the tank, just in case the unthinkable should happen, especially if I'm starting from home.

Fail to plan and plan to fail. 

There is starting the trip with a full tank, but with the amazing 800 miles range, or even 1,500 miles as in a video posted then really unless you are down to the last quarter tank even a 100 mile diversion is hardly an issue. 

 

It can be in Scotland if trying to get someplace like south from a Ski Centre and the snow gates close and it is an extra 120 miles you need to cover.

These days there are a few Filling stations about.

 

As to EV,s and a 100 miles or so range and the Motorway or dual carriageway closes without any prior warning then that does cause a bit of a panic if you are not familiar with roads that you have not used since you used to with a liquid fuel car & you know you are heading someplace where you know or think there is charging and hope that there is or you might be heading even more off the route or direction you had planned on. 

Price to charge my Small Battery EV for each 100 miles.

£2.00 at home.

Rapid 50 kW chargers,

£17,40 at my local council chargers.

£15.00 Perth & Kinross.

£14,40 Tesla non Tesla.

£17.70 Stirlingshire Council.

£11,10 South Ayrshire.

£18.00 Edinburgh City.

 

MFG £23.70

Podpoint. £18.60.

 

So anything really from £14.00 to £25.50 for 30kWh on Public charging on 50 - 350 kW chargers for 100-110 miles of travel. 

 

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Latest Stellantis EV,s  Pretty much 'Real World.'

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@Ootohere That just highlights to my mind at least that there is much work to do in the public charging area to help bring the costs down to make the whole cost of ownership if you have to relay on public chargers more into the realms of that for ICE drivers, £12.60 difference between the cheapest and the dearest public chargers is just plain stupid IMO.

On 10/10/2024 at 16:47, Graham Butcher said:

@domhnallLol, and to think that this whole saga could have been avoided if it were not for the fact that you and so many home charging EV drivers had not been spoilt by the automatic overnight refuelling capability that you have with the Enyaq. If you didn't have that function then you'd probably not have seen that 25 minutes it took to go and get your diesel as negatively as you did, but instead it would have been just another normal day, and you would not have thought any more of it.

 

Or of course, if you had not so doggedly stuck to your unwillingness to actually separate the travelling and queueing time from the true time of filling the tank, which is exactly the same analogy as the time taken to top up your EV from a low SOC to at least 80% if you had to rely on a public charger for the Enyaq.

 

Which is exactly how ICE drivers view their refuelling, without that dino juice we are not going to go anywhere, just as without lecky, neither are EV drivers, but ICE can go from 0 to 390-mile range (your VW) in 5 minutes to how long would it take your Enyaq to go from say 5% to 100% SOC to achieve a range of upto 330 miles at a public charger? I certainly know which one of the two vehicles would be departing first from the pump / charger under those conditions

 

Yes I do understand it can be a faff filling up prior to the trip, but as a good scout (note I was never a scout) being prepared can actually save a lot of time on the day as invariably real life can sometimes throw you a curved ball at the last moment making some time limited trips touch and go if you're going to make it in time. 

 

Incidentally, have you seen how many homes in Florida right now that have their power cut as a result of storm Milton, any EV drivers trying to flee are maybe regretting their EV car right now if they have no charge left.

Just came across this post, the last paragraph could also have been written as:

“Incidentally, have you seen how many homes in Florida right now that have their power cut as a result of storm Milton, any gas car drivers trying to flee are finding out that gas pumps are electric and re regretting having no gas left”

16 minutes ago, Paul80x said:

Just came across this post, the last paragraph could also have been written as:

“Incidentally, have you seen how many homes in Florida right now that have their power cut as a result of storm Milton, any gas car drivers trying to flee are finding out that gas pumps are electric and re regretting having no gas left”

But, gas pumps can be operated by a handle in the event of a power cut if push comes to shove as my old Mum used to say. 😉

Not round here, the last time we had a 3 day power cut the fuel station was closed because neither the pumps or tills were operating.

if you’ve got big weather coming it always pays to have your car, regardless of energy type, topped up. 

^^^ The same back when Pitlochry was pretty much cut of as in the A9 traffic not moving & the filling station down as the shops. hotels, chip shop were because power off.

Blair Atholl filling station had pumps working though because they had a generator and fuel obviously.

The Isle of Arran was really hit with power down, and the thing people forget which was communications with land lines and mobile reception down. 

 

 

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Might as well help him get the 911.

 

£1,200 a month on a £120,000 vehicle for business purposes and a prop for the videos, the reason the videos are made.

£277 a week. 

or the £39.45 each day of the week, plus insurance maintenance and his charging.   Bl00dy bargain for the Prop & Transport for work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 November, 20241 yr by Ootohere

I drove towards Aberdeen on day 3 to get phone signal and when I got into town I charged to 100% “just in case”.

When the phone connected there was a deluge of texts from SSE with updates, which was a bit late…

11 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Fail to plan and plan to fail. 

There is starting the trip with a full tank, but with the amazing 800 miles range, or even 1,500 miles as in a video posted then really unless you are down to the last quarter tank even a 100 mile diversion is hardly an issue. 

 

It can be in Scotland if trying to get someplace like south from a Ski Centre and the snow gates close and it is an extra 120 miles you need to cover.

These days there are a few Filling stations about.

 

As to EV,s and a 100 miles or so range and the Motorway or dual carriageway closes without any prior warning then that does cause a bit of a panic if you are not familiar with roads that you have not used since you used to with a liquid fuel car & you know you are heading someplace where you know or think there is charging and hope that there is or you might be heading even more off the route or direction you had planned on. 

 

you've not found my video coming back up the M1 only to find they closed the A1 and I had to turn back at Cockburnspath and head back to Berwick and go inland to get back to Livingston? In an EV

, th e shorter range Enyaq