I have a 2006 ambient 1.2 MK1 and the tailgate struts are failing.

I have checked the part which is 6Y0827550 C 101S.  All the online motor factors using my car reg (for example autodoc) say that the replacement part measures 440mm and is suitable for6Y0827550C. I have measured mine end to end and they are 460mm.

Also if I put my car details into Ebay's vehicle check for any of strut parts offered - it says they will not fit. 

 

Any advice?

 

thanks

You could be struggling as your year there was a changeover from 5J-7-000001>> VINs to 6Y-7-000001>>

Do you know which of the 2 VIN values are for your car?

 

EDIT: Sorry need more coffee, you have a 6Y VIN as your existing part number suggests.

Edited 10 September, 20223 yr by varooom

16 minutes ago, Mkcheznous said:

I have a 2006 ambient 1.2 MK1 and the tailgate struts are failing.

I have checked the part which is 6Y0827550 C 101S.  All the online motor factors using my car reg (for example autodoc) say that the replacement part measures 440mm and is suitable for6Y0827550C. I have measured mine end to end and they are 460mm.

Also if I put my car details into Ebay's vehicle check for any of strut parts offered - it says they will not fit. 

 

Any advice?

 

thanks

 

Strut length does not include the ball ends, the most important stat is the spring strength, they're a standard part across every application, the strength is rated in Newtons and length is minus the end fittings.

 

You may therefore be overthinking this considerably, just buy 'em and fit 'em.

I have checked on parts catalog, and the number on your struts has not been superseded, so you should be able to order away quite happily.

Many sources are also saying 440mm, and as @sepulchrave just order away, should be good to go.

thanks guys

I just went online and bought a set that said they'd fit my model. They did. The boot doesn't try to decapitate me anymore. Job done.

51 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

I just went online and bought a set that said they'd fit my model. They did. The boot doesn't try to decapitate me anymore. Job done.

 

Weird that, such a technical product and so tricky to fit!

Just lucky!

@Mkcheznous you are right to check and cross reference any information you get, particularly off t'interweb.  My experience is that many (most?) databases have errors and omissions even from manufacturers (possibly not so much from factories now).  Ebay sellers seem to copy vehicle checks or get the information from the same or similar source(s) so errors and omissions are copied and/or repeated.  In the past I've ordered parts that I know will fit my car despite the seller's vehicle check saying they won't fit and have seen part code numbers that might fit but wouldn't be suitable for particular application.

 

Tailgate struts with the correct part number should be an easy order and fit from good suppliers giving good information or an easy to use site or system unfortunately not all are capable of this, including many very large manufacturers so you get pushed into over-thinking when it shouldn't be required.

 

You can get the struts with different heads, length, stroke, rod diameter, rod/body end type, extended length, force range, then you'd measure ball end centres, you may want these if overloading the boot, bonnet lid or where ever you are using them. 😁

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

@Mkcheznous you are right to check and cross reference any information you get, particularly off t'interweb.  My experience is that many (most?) databases have errors and omissions even from manufacturers (possibly not so much from factories now).  Ebay sellers seem to copy vehicle checks or get the information from the same or similar source(s) so errors and omissions are copied and/or repeated.  In the past I've ordered parts that I know will fit my car despite the seller's vehicle check saying they won't fit and have seen part code numbers that might fit but wouldn't be suitable for particular application.

 

Tailgate struts with the correct part number should be an easy order and fit from good suppliers giving good information or an easy to use site or system unfortunately not all are capable of this, including many very large manufacturers so you get pushed into over-thinking when it shouldn't be required.

 

You can get the struts with different heads, length, stroke, rod diameter, rod/body end type, extended length, force range, then you'd measure ball end centres, you may want these if overloading the boot, bonnet lid or where ever you are using them. 😁

 

 

Bored?

Just seeing another side and a wider view.  Possibly the OP in a different manner, bored no, boring you decide, oh you have.  (I did like the remembering of keep up dear though.)   I don't mind justifying myself to you as you put things so well.  Love and kisses as always.  😄

5 hours ago, nta16 said:

Just seeing another side and a wider view.  Possibly the OP in a different manner, bored no, boring you decide, oh you have.  (I did like the remembering of keep up dear though.)   I don't mind justifying myself to you as you put things so well.  Love and kisses as always.  😄

 

At least you're not a "type", more a "typist"...

 

Seeing your gravity defying walls of text makes my carpal tunnels ache, especially when the footings are often obviously deficient.

I bought a pair from ECP and they fitted my estate fine. Probably a stronger spring than standard so the tailgate certainly stays in the air. 

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

Get them from the wrong place and you can have problems, especially if they ignore you as a customer with a problem on an item they supplied - though I've no personal experience of this with struts.

 

Try SGS,I fitted a pair of struts on my Combi from them,and they have been on for about 4 yrs now with no problems/leaks etc.

Jeez a lot of overthinking going on here. These are what I've got, they're very good.

 

Just as a note for the OP.

 

The vehicle check thing on eBay continuously recognises my 2006 Mk1 Fabia as a Mk2 for whatever reason. To overcome this I enter the info to say its a 2005 model instead.

2 hours ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

Jeez a lot of overthinking going on here. These are what I've got, they're very good.

 

i 

 

i ACTUALLY ORDERED THESE BEFORE i SAW YOUR POST - HAVING CHECKED WITH THE SUPPLIER - BUT THANKS

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

4 hours ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

Jeez a lot of overthinking going on here. These are what I've got, they're very good.

That's what's needed a good recommendation.

 

Unfortunately some thinking is required before ordering, it shouldn't need to be but that's how it is now.  After the race to the bottom to get the cheapest made products from China the quality of some parts and the quality and attitude of the sellers and the information they have and give has sometimes dropped to very low or abysmal.

 

I bought some cheapy ones of fleabay. They work great but seem to lack the damping during opening that the original ones had, so I have to steady the tailgate with my hand when opening so it doesn't open too violently. Doesn't bother me in the slightest, though.

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

There's a video of a set that open the large tailgate so violently that you watch the rear suspension lift, if unrestrained or not replaced I'd guess eventually there'd eventually be some stress damaged on something, and the seller doesn't respond or reply to the buyer, I think eBay sorted it but I could wrong (about all).

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13 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

There's a video of a set that open the large tailgate so violently that you watch the rear suspension lift, if unrestrained or not replaced I'd guess eventually there'd eventually be some stress damaged on something, and the seller doesn't respond or reply to the buyer, I think eBay sorted it but I could wrong (about all).

. 

 

You'd think they'd notice when trying to fit them, I bloody would!

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

18 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

You'd think they'd notice when trying to fit them, I bloody would!

The fit was fine, correct part, first test on opening found the issue - even you wouldn't have seen anything wrong without testing. 

 

The point of the video was to show how to find the part number to order the replacement then how easy it is to remove the existing struts and fit the new struts.

 

But it's instructional and useful to know that despite doing things right you can get shoddy goods and very poor service to balls things up for you and then the hassle of trying to get your money back and find somewhere with struts that work as they should and a seller that isn't unresponsive if they don't.  Not something you should have to think about but that's how it is.

 

7 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

The fit was fine, correct part, first test on opening found the issue - even you wouldn't have seen anything wrong without testing. 

 

The point of the video was to show how to find the part number to order the replacement then how easy it is to remove the existing struts and fit the new struts.

 

But it's instructional and useful to know that despite doing things right you can get shoddy goods and very poor service to balls things up for you and then the hassle of trying to get your money back and find somewhere with struts that work as they should and a seller that isn't unresponsive if they don't.  Not something you should have to think about but that's how it is.

 

 

I maintain I would have noticed, you can't install them with the tailgate shut, you'd have to compress them slightly to fit them, whereupon it would have been obvious they were too strong.

Please note - I am not a mechanic or expert in anything.

 

36 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

I maintain I would have noticed, you can't install them with the tailgate shut, you'd have to compress them slightly to fit them, whereupon it would have been obvious they were too strong.

Swings and roundabouts - still best to fit and test otherwise those in the motor trade or selling the struts would say you didn't fit to see.

 

Are your arms/chest/shoulders energy measurement calibrate to be dead-on balls accurate? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzfQ0NFNF3g

 

Edited 12 September, 20223 yr by nta16