Our  Sport Line in meteor grey is arriving at the dealership next week with Vega alloys so no plastic inserts! Specified on order. Quoted 12 months for delivery but only 3 months.

52 minutes ago, JFJ said:

Our Sport Line in meteor grey is arriving at the dealership next week with Vega alloys so no plastic inserts! Specified on order. Quoted 12 months for delivery but only 3 months.

 

If that's 2WD rather than 4WD, it will probably have 225/40R19 or 235/40R19 fitted to rather wide 8Jx19 ET45 rims. You can see in the "Skoda alloy rims...accessories catalogue" that both 225/40R19 and 235/40R19 are Skoda approved tyre sizes for the Karoq 2WD.

 

These are very vulnerable to kerbing damage because the tyre sidewalls don't bulge out much, if at all.

 

Changing to 235/40R19 fitted to 7.5Jx19 ET48 rims from the Octavia MK4 would give much better protection from kerbing damage. 235/40R19 is a standard Superb MK3 tyre size.

 

7.5Jx19 ET48 alloy rim (from Octavia MK4)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-manaslu-19-octavia-iv/p/5E3071499H+HA7

 

Notice how similar the above Octavia MK4 alloy rim looks to the below Karoq 8Jx19 ET45 alloy rim

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-crater-19-karoq/p/57A071499++HA7

 

Another benefit of the 235/40R19 tyre size over the 225/40R19 is that a Michelin CrossClimate 2 tyre is available in an H speed rating. The 225/40R19 size only has a Y speed rated Michelin CrossClimate 2, which is way over-rated for the Karoq. So 235/40R19 would not only provide much better rim protect to a relatively narrow 7.5J rim compared to a 225/40R19 fitted to an 8J rim, but the ride comfort would be much better...and yet still with the 19" rim size that so many appear to prefer on the Karoq.

 

Michelin CrossClimate 2 235/40R19 96H XL (Euro label B B 71dB)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m142b0s10015p208572/Michelin_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Michelin_Cross_Climate_2_235_40_R19_96H_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_B_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Another thing to consider is the outside diameter of the tyres, as shown in the below chart. As you can see, 225/40R19 is rather small compared to the standard Karoq 2WD 17" and 18" tyre sizes, but 235/40R19 is in between the 17" and 18" tyre sizes...so a very good match to the standard Karoq 2WD tyre sizes.

 

Outside diameter of tyres

215/60R16 664.4mm

215/55R17 668.3mm

215/50R18 672.2mm

225/40R19 662.6mm

235/40R19 670.6mm

 

Skoda alloy rims (accessories catalogue)

https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/639a0118-4da5-446b-a786-86e1f789b57b

 

Edited 30 September, 20231 yr by Carlston

Bit too technical for me! I have a 2020 edition with crater alloys what alternative size would I be able to fit without changing the wheels. There is an issue with kerbing the wheels with low profile original tyres. Thanks. It’s my wife’s sport line that’s arriving next week.

 

7 hours ago, JFJ said:

Bit too technical for me! I have a 2020 edition with crater alloys what alternative size would I be able to fit without changing the wheels. There is an issue with kerbing the wheels with low profile original tyres. Thanks. It’s my wife’s sport line that’s arriving next week.

 

 

None.  Will try to explain Carlston's post.

 

To keep legal, the new tyres circumference will need to be within a certain tollerance of your current tyre. So if you want to change say the thickness of the tyre then it's  width would also need to change to keep the circumference the same.  You can often fit a wider tyre on the same alloy which has the effect of making the tyre thinner, but that's the opposite of you want.  It's not so easy to make the sidewall thicker - i.e. you'd need to reduce the width of the tyre because then it'd have trouble fitting on your current alloy.

 

Basically what I'm saying is you'd need to change to alloy wheel to a different size ( smaller ) to increase the tyre depth. ( see Carlston's post above )

 

The way I saw it was it was cheaper me spending £60 to refurbish our standard 19" crator alloys than buy a new ones.

 

People may say you need to improve your driving to stop curbing. Well they obviously haven't driven on 225/40/19 tyres with crator alloys. You need luck, not skill to avoid kerbing them.

Edited 1 October, 20231 yr by kodiaqsportline

13 minutes ago, kodiaqsportline said:

 

To keep legal, the new tyres circumference will need to be within a certain tollerance of your current tyre

 

What law is that and what is the tolerance please?

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

What law is that and what is the tolerance please?

In the UK the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not aloud to under read.  Google it.

 

tom

There are a lot of modified vehicles in the UK with oversize tyres that have had a SVA or IVA and MOT,s and that are insured and funnily the 10% tolerance is a figment of some internet imagination.

 

There is Type Approval (Edit typo) & C&U, and there is also declaring Modifications with insurers & also having a speedo calibrated.

Maybe not common among those with a Karoq though.

 

 

Edited 2 October, 20231 yr by toot

3 hours ago, Sanqhar said:

In the UK the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not aloud to under read.  Google it.

 

tom

 

I followed your advice Tom:

 

Showing results for the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not allowed to under read.
Search instead for the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not aloud to under read.

10 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

I followed your advice Tom:

 

Showing results for the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not allowed to under read.
Search instead for the tolerance is 10%... but the speedo is not aloud to under read.

 

Yeah alright.  You are not taking into account computer intervention.

 

tom

12 hours ago, toot said:

There are a lot of modified vehicles in the UK with oversize tyres that have had a SVA or IVA and MOT,s and that are insured and funnily the 10% tolerance is a figment of some internet imagination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Glad to know the Construction and Use Regulations are just a figment of imagination. 

 

tom

They are not a figment of imagination.  But to make statements about 10% over type approved tyre sizes being illegal is ridiculous.   So @Sanqhar please post the section on construction and use regarding the Tyre sizes and 10%.    Not about speed accuracy as that is a separate section.   So there is the Speedo situation.  People have fitted parts or Speedos to ensure that the tyre size used and Speedos are accurate.    As it is from the factory they over read and slightly larger / more circumference can have the Speedo accurate.  When you go beyond that then you can make adjustments / adaptions.     As it is private vehicles very seldom have Speedo accuracy in the UK checked, certainly not at MOT,s.          It is just repeating duff gen that is the issue when it comes to tyres and wheels and THE LAW. 

Edited 2 October, 20231 yr by toot

55 minutes ago, Sanqhar said:

Yeah alright.  You are not taking into account computer intervention.

 

Does the computer intervene in your thought processes and rationality?

 

I'm still hoping to learn what the law is that says replacement tyres must be within 10% (of what?) of the tyres being replaced.

 

If such a law exists then one needs to work up in steps, 10% at a time to create a Monster Truck.

20 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

What law is that and what is the tolerance please?

 

The reply was intended for someone who said a previous reply was too technical - I was trying to make it easier for them. Given your previous posts I reckon you know exactly what I'm on about therefore I see your reply as intent to spark debate.  So let me give a rhetorical reply to a rhetorical question.

 

Fit 225/55/19 tyres on those alloys, get involved in a crash that's serious enough for it to be thoroughly investigated, and cross your fingers and everything else that either your or the 3rd party insurers pay out.

 

Anything else wrong with the answer I gave - spelling mistake perhaps?

 

 

I wasn't trying to spark a debate, just trying to either clarify or disabuse another claim that something is illegal, it's a hobby horse of mine I'm afraid and I really cant help myself, my requests are always polite and respectful, the responses often not when the person does not want to admit that there is in fact no law.

 

As interesting as your discourse about insurance is and I agree with your sentiments it says nothing about a supposed law being broken.

 

I hadn't read the previous posts so did not know what you were on about.

This thread has descended to a battle of wits between unarmed men. 

 

tom

Edited 2 October, 20231 yr by Sanqhar
not sure

On 01/10/2023 at 10:27, JFJ said:

Bit too technical for me! I have a 2020 edition with crater alloys what alternative size would I be able to fit without changing the wheels. There is an issue with kerbing the wheels with low profile original tyres. Thanks. It’s my wife’s sport line that’s arriving next week.

 

With the 8Jx19 ET45 Karoq rim, 245/40R19 would offer more protection from kerbing damage than either 225/40R19 or 235/40R19. So fitting 245/40R19 to your standard 8Jx19 ET45 Karoq rims is something you might want to consider if protecting these rims from kerbing damage is a high priority.

 

As well as the 235/40R19 fitted to a 7.5Jx19 ET48 rim from the Octavia MK4 that I mentioned in a previous post, another option could be 225/45R19 fitted to a 7Jx19 ET43 rim from the Kodiaq. An example of a 7Jx19 ET43 rim from the Kodiaq is shown below.

 

Karoq 8Jx19 ET45 alloy rims CRATER

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-crater-19-karoq/p/57A071499A+8Z8

 

Kodiaq 7Jx19 ET43 alloy rims CRATER

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-crater-19-kodiaq/p/565071499H+8Z8

 

I've added 225/45R19 and 245/40R19 to my "Outside diameter of tyres" chart. 225/45R19 and 245/40R19 aren't standard tyre sizes on the Karoq 2WD but they are standard tyre sizes on the Karoq 4WD.

 

A 225/45R19 fitted to a 7J rim will have a similar amount of protection from kerbing damage as a 235/40R19 fitted to a 7.5J rim.

 

With the standard 8Jx19 ET45 Karoq rims, fitting 245/40R19 should give some protection from kerbing damage, but it won't be as good as a 225/45R19 fitted to a 7J rim or a 235/40R19 fitted to a 7.5J rim.

 

Outside diameter of tyres

215/60R16 664.4mm

215/55R17 668.3mm

215/50R18 672.2mm

225/40R19 662.6mm

235/40R19 670.6mm

225/45R19 685.1mm (1.9% bigger outside diameter than 215/50R18)

245/40R19 678.6mm (1.0% bigger outside diameter than 215/50R18)

 

Edited 2 October, 20231 yr by Carlston

does anyone know the size of the caps needed when you remove the cheese grater inserts? thanks

my take on changing the aero on the segitarius wheels on my new karoq, i only spent around £9, no-one will know 😛

Just want to say thanks for this thread. I'm collecting my '72 Sportline Karoq today, which has the gross aero inserts. I've already ordered the bits to remove them, in advance of collecting it.

Dealer quoted approx £90 to do it, but I've found the bits for less than £30.

My sportline delivered a couple of weeks ago had Sagittarius wheels but no inserts! Not that I wanted them!

4 hours ago, survey said:

My sportline delivered a couple of weeks ago had Sagittarius wheels but no inserts! Not that I wanted them!

I believe that Skoda have deleted the inserts, on recent cars, probably due to owners removing them and buying the wheel nut and centre caps. I have kept mine on, just to be awkward!😂

Thanks again for this thread – I’ve now successfully removed the aero covers from my wheels.

I was shocked at how much brake dust and road grime had built up behind the fins! It took a bit of effort to get them properly cleaned, but I definitely prefer the look of the wheels without the covers.

Just a quick word of caution for anyone keeping them on: they can potentially cause scratches over time. I’ve noticed a few light marks on mine after removal, and my car’s only done around 6,000 miles.

Edited 18 May18 May by Hdsn555

Ha, will quote the girlfriend on this (nothing to do with me, squire!).

She says that the black inserts match the other black highlights of the Sportline trim, and if I remove the inserts, the shiny wheels look wrong.

By the way, I do take the trims off, when I wash the car, so wheels stay clean.

One does wonder who actually designs some of these chronic wheels. What happened to easy clean 5 spoke wheels. And none of the low profile rubbish - design over substance!

She says that the black inserts match the other black highlights of the Sportline trim, and if I remove the inserts, the shiny wheels look wrong.

By the way, I do take the trims off, when I wash the car, so wheels stay clean.

I agree, I think the wheels are an unnecessarily fussy design. I have removed my inserts but will put them back on, but still remove them for cleaning.