Had my Karol 1.5 tsi for a few weeks now and have noticed the gearbox is not as slick as my Octavia 4 tsi I traded in for my Karoq. I have also noticed that the acceleration is not as good as the Octavia. Is this my imagination? 

Might be worth a read

 

 

Is the Karoq heavier?  The aerodynamics must be worse.  Beyond these it's subjective.

 

tom

@JFJ  Could you say what you are comparing here,

is it a 1.4 TSI 150 PS Manual vs a 1.5 TSI ACT 150 ps Manual or have they a DSG, and what age was the Octavia?

My 68 reg Octavia 1.5 tsi with DSG was faster than my new Karoq, both driving it and on paper (Octavia just under 9 sec O-62, Karoq just over 9 sec), but nothing to make any real difference. As I have only done 156 miles, everything is still tight and new, and handbook says keep calm till at least 1000km, then build up from there. Have had a mix of low and high seated cars and vans, and you just can’t throw a Karoq round like an Octavia  - or can you???😀

My Octavia 4 was 1.5 tsi manual 2020 as is my Karoq. It’s not the handling that bothers me it’s just the lack of responsiveness and more laboured gear change. Like I said previously it might be my imagination! Interested in the pedal box though anyone got any comments regarding the improvement after fitting one?

Not your imagination. the Karoq has a slower takeoff.

Sorted it with OBD11 changed the throttle pedal to linear in adaptations so much better instant response now.

yeah, switching to linear pedal response is leagues better than the **** poor system they ship the car by default with

 

what was SKODA thinking when implemented non linear acceleration.. its not just annoying but a safety issue (e.g. car not accelerating as you expect it to when overtaking someone)

Acceleration of the vehicle resulting from throttle pedal input was never linear even when there was a cable connecting the pedal to the throttle butterfly or injector pump, far from it.

 

My criticisms of most modern vehicles is the lag or response time and the artificial damping of that power response to reduce emissions, that is probably what changes most when reprogramming the parameter.

 

I drove a Peugeot hatchback around 2002 and it had a damper on the throttle pedal, normal minimum return spring opposition if you slowly opened the throttle but a huge force needed to open it quickly, so much so that after only a couple of minutes of spirited driving my right leg muscles were burning, that was done for emissions, now the ECU does it.

 

You simply do not get the initial push in the back from any modern vehicle now matter how many hundreds of horsepower they have compared to an old school vehicle.

Had ours a couple of months now - was 18mths old and done 4K miles when we got it - and I'm sure the delay/softness in take-up from rest has gone.

 

A friend had commented that his T-Roc with same engine and DSG box often broke traction out of junctions - there was never any suggestion of that happening when we first got the car, but it's done it a couple of times recently.

 

 

I had two years of drastic wheel spin, on my Octavia. Supplying dealer did two services, and said “nature of the car”! Third service to different dealer, and problem diagnosed as needing update, which was done. Another two and a half years of bliss, thanks to second dealer (from whom I bought my Karoq).

Interesting - the car has asked for updates a couple of times on the infotainment screen, but I assumed they were related to that (the infotainment system).   I've just OK'd them as they popped up.

 

Could things like drive mode related updates etc be done in such a way?

On 15/09/2023 at 20:44, Choclab said:

You just can’t throw a Karoq round like an Octavia  - or can you???😀

 

Well, I did have an Octavia 1.8 DSG which was the best car I ever had, until the curse of the 1.8 engine meant I had to get rid of it. As a result I was a bit grumpy in a Yeti for a while. Now have a Karoq Sportline 2.0 4x4 DSG, and oh my! Without doubt the nicest car I have ever driven by a mile. Luckily I own it!  You can throw that around like a like...throwy around thing. 

Re a 2018 1.5TSI ACT and s 2022 1.5TSI ACT and software updates.

 

The 2018 one or some were part of the kangerooing issue and a full DVLA Safety Critical Recall for lack of Torque, and it was Engine Management software updates, and there were for the DSG.

 

2022 they Updates are not engine / drivetrain they are 'Software' concerning other stuff like Infotainment / SOS etc. 

I did think that about the infotainment updates.

 

I was out in the car today and I'm absolutely certain that the throttle response from rest has changed.  I had wondered if maybe the drop in temperature had made the tyres a bit less grippy but it's been 19C here today and it still takes some concentration to not over press the gas pedal  when turning out of tight junctions.   The throttle response from rest is instant - when we got the car there was an irritating momentary delay and even once it got going there was an initial "softness" in pick up - that's gone now.

On 05/10/2023 at 16:16, PedalBin said:

 

Well, I did have an Octavia 1.8 DSG which was the best car I ever had, until the curse of the 1.8 engine meant I had to get rid of it. As a result I was a bit grumpy in a Yeti for a while. Now have a Karoq Sportline 2.0 4x4 DSG, and oh my! Without doubt the nicest car I have ever driven by a mile. Luckily I own it!  You can throw that around like a like...throwy around thing. 

We moved out of a Freelander into a Sportline 1.5dsg and by comparison it can be responsive around the twisty bits, even for a 2wd. However doesn’t compare with our old Impreza or Forester but then you’re talking different beasts altogether; so miss that Impreza 😥

3 hours ago, Rory said:

...and it still takes some concentration to not over press the gas pedal  when turning out of tight junctions.   The throttle response from rest is instant - when we got the car there was an irritating momentary delay and even once it got going there was an initial "softness" in pick up - that's gone now.

What tyres are fitted?  From new the Bridgestone Turanzas on ours did this scrabbling turning out of tight junctions.  

 

tom

Took delivery of my wife’s Karoq Sprtline 1.5 TSI. It’s so much more responsive than my 1.5 TSI Edition it’s like driving a different model of car. The acceleration is seamless I wonder what changes Škoda have made to the engine. I’m envious I prefer hers to mine. My car has a couple of additional features like blind spot assist and better navigation, leather etc that I missed whilst driving though!

19 hours ago, Sanqhar said:

What tyres are fitted?  From new the Bridgestone Turanzas on ours did this scrabbling turning out of tight junctions.  

 

tom

 

It's got Michelin (Primacy, I think - I'm away at the moment).  Ive realised that, despite the car having only only done 4500 miles when got it, and having all the appearance of being very gently used (brake discs no lip whatsover etc) that the fromt tyres only measure 4.5mm so perhaps the previous drivers had the same issue.

 

I'll see how we get on as the weather gets colder but I might bite the bullet and put a set of CrossClimate's on.   I ran the Tiguan that the Karoq replaced on full winter tyres during winter and they were very reassuring, although that car did also have 4Motion.

Fitted CrossClimates on our Sportline to replace the OEM Bridgestones, absolute revelation, chalk and cheese. 

On 07/10/2023 at 21:05, BTandSid said:

Fitted CrossClimates on our Sportline to replace the OEM Bridgestones, absolute revelation, chalk and cheese. 

 

I had a Merc with Bridsgstones on from new and it was like driving on iron rings!   Thankfully they didn't last long and Michelim Primacy made a massive differene to the comfort of the car.

 

 

I did stumble across an old thread talking about poor throttle response from walking speed and someone has commented that swithcing to higher octane fuel transformed the car.  That's got me thinking - our car came full of fuel, but then after that I refilled with with Costco super (or whatever it's called) unleaded.  I find it hard to believe that's made such a difference but I've only just refilled again so will have to wait a while to try.

Interesting.

 

By mistake lat week I filled up with BP Supreme or whatever the call their expensive brew and the car was noticably smoother and seemed to be more economical but not proven.