Rutherglen election result

[@Lee]

On 24/10/2023 at 16:08, EnterName said:

 

Hmmm?

Well let's see.

 

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Edited 26 October, 2023 by @Lee

[EnterName]

On 24/10/2023 at 15:08, EnterName said:

If only the UK was run like Briskoda...

9 hours ago, @Lee said:

If you have an issue with the way the site's run send a message to colin @ briskoda. net and take it up with him.

Ah! An opportunity for a learning moment.

 

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[Ootohere]

@Lee  SNP lost another elected member, this one a MSP.   

This one stood to be the leader of the party & has now become a member of the ALBA party so now their lone MSP.  

They have 2 MP,s but they were elected when in the SNP. 

Never prepared to stand down and then become a candidate in a by-election.    She will be out at the next Scottish election as will the 2 MP,s. 

 

Ash Regan MSP.   If anyone is interested.   Snouter.    

[kodiaqsportline]

19 hours ago, Rooted said:

Never prepared to stand down and then become a candidate in a by-election.    She will be out at the next Scottish election as will the 2 MP,s.  

 

This is something people keep saying but it's not how our electoral system works. We vote for a candidate to represent us, we don't vote for a party, or a First /Prime Minister.  If you supported the XYZ party and they put up someone who you particularly dislike, someone who you see as having been ineffective in their role or in the past has lied, would you still vote for them regardless?

 

As long as the MP / MSP (in this instance Ash Regan) stands by the principals they were elected with, then there's no reason for a by-election. The SNP have certainly changed, Ash Regan doesn't appear to have,, so if anything shouldn't it be the SNP be calling for a Scottish election? 

 

Mind you, with the position they find themselves in, that's the last thing they want right now. Surely nobody believes they'd be returned with a similar / increased majority?  I wouldn't use the word meltdown, but they're certainly a party in crisis. They appear to be concentrating on topics which are important, but given the current economic situation, perhaps should be kept in the 'to do' box.  I see the Greens ( who form a coalition in Scottish government beccause despite popular belief, failed to win a majority last time) have just anounced two policies at their annual conference - tax cruise ships that visit Scotland ( strange idea increasing taxes for a major contributer to our economy ) and giving free bus passes for those seeking asylum.  I'm not saying I disagree with any of that it's just I have serious doubts about this governments ability to run the economy.

 

I see those ferries have been delayed again. That'll mean even greater bonuses for the shipyard bosses.   It'd be cheaper to scrap the 2nd ferry and buy a brand new one from elsewhere ( a firm with experience! ) than it would be to complete the build. And the SNP chose to continue the build with the armchair experts 🤪

 

 

 

[Ootohere]

I read of SNP Members calling for a by-election.   But then if a MSP from another party was to join them i doubt they would want a by-election.

 

I was a member of SNP & ALBA and like anyone even not in or supporting any party can post what they think should happen.  Knowing well that it will not.

 

Actually there are people that vote for people to represent their constituency, and there is a List System in Scotland where those that fail to get enough votes get a seat.

Murdo Fraser MSP being the classic for that.

 

I see HS2 was partially scrapped.   

So no matter how much spent that will not go ahead.

 

£400 Million and more to come spent on these ferries is just ridiculous, but so is the failing fleet that is not have new ferries even planned to keep up with the requirements for the requirements in the near future let alone the distant one.

 

 

Easy come easy go with other peoples money & it is not like it stays in the circular economy, 

there is some job creation though.   Often for those that should be no place near the projects. 

 

Edited 29 October, 2023 by Rooted

[EnterName]

On 29/10/2023 at 13:15, Rooted said:

Easy come easy go with other peoples money & it is not like it stays in the circular economy, 

When there is no penalty for failure, there is a lack of diligence.

[Ootohere]

When Westminster politicians or Civil Servants fail or even Holyrood ones there is the House of Lords there and a Peerage.   Or leave the public service for nice directorships or consultancy positions.   Some even get these while still there as elected members.  

[Ootohere]

Time this MSP goes back to doing what he trained to do and gives up politics.

He has been hopeless in every Government Position he has has so far.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Matheson_(politician)  The current First Minister and Michael were part of the pass the parcel when there were ministerial reshuffles.  Useful idiots. 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67363645

 

 

As to the First Minister and others,  they seem very familiar with communications technology and Delete. 

 

Chickens coming home to roost soon.   It is getting so they are failing to fool most of the people most of the time now. 

Edited 9 November, 2023 by Rooted

[EnterName]

What a clown! He made what is usually a child's mistake. 😄

[Ootohere]

Apparently according to the latest,  the guy who was in charge of Transport, Health, Justice and whatever else in Scotland was informed and warned about needing to update the device and should not have been taking it abroad without notifying those that need norifying.

 

But this is the issue with the NHS and hospitals built not fit for purpose, ferries still never completed and many many financial fiascos and budget over runs and excess deaths, waiting times and much more.

Those that could not run a window cleaning or dustbin washing business are running the country. 

 

'Drain the swamp'. 

[Ootohere]

He is paying the £11,000 back out of his own pocket.

Should not be too painful after 24 years in politics as it is not a low paid job.

 

There should be no need for any further investigation or any independents looking at the device and if it was purely constituency business it was used for.

No looking for Combine Harvesters or the likes. 

[Ootohere]

^^^ So he thought just pay the £11,000 and get on with his Health responsibilities in his Government job and move on, there had already been someone cleared what the iPad /Tablet had been used for.

 

Why get his nickers in a twist then about letting it be checked to see it was being used just for work for his official  work for constituents & the parliament? 

There are people that can look see that have trusted status over IT government information.  

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67417013

Another one with a coat on the Shoogly Peg,

Edited 14 November, 2023 by Rooted

[Ootohere]

Good on Labour Party MP,s that voted in parliament according to their beliefs about humanity and not as they were supposed to as the Party Leader wanted.

He can surely never be the UK,s Prime Minister.  It is not anything to do with the faith he and his wife bringing up their children in.It is him, he is a real dullard & a Champagne Socialist.

Edited 15 November, 2023 by Rooted

[Ootohere]

Watching the News and the Tory Party at Silverstone i was totally surprised to see it is the Labour Party re-branding and taking back the Union Flag.

I thought there was away to be a declaration of war from David Cameron against Scotland.

 

 

They look like the Conservative & Unionists, or National Front, maybe the BNP.   

 

Sir Keir is the man, the man that should never be the Prime Minister IMO. 

Edited 12 December, 2023 by Rooted

[lol-lol]

21 minutes ago, Rooted said:

Watching the News and the Tory Party at Silverstone i was totally surprised to see it is the Labour Party re-branding and taking back the Union Flag.

I thought there was away to be a declaration of war from David Cameron against Scotland.

 

They look like the Conservative & Unionists, or National Front, maybe the BNP.   

 

Sir Keir is the man, the man that should never be the Prime Minister IMO. 

 

What ever gets the Labour party elected.  

Yes there are quite a few ex-military in the Labour party as that previous strong hold of Conservative voting has crumbled like many of their other traditional areas ie The Economy, Law and Order etc.

 

Whether the Labour party will be quite centarist we will likely see in the next few years.  What voters seem to be saying is that is nearly impossible to be as bad as the current lot.  The Con party has had it unlucky in that Covid cost around £400B and the UK is in about three times the debt when a Labour Minister said we have no money, well now we are 3 times more indebted.

 

 What Happens in Scotland in the General election will be interesting. Perhaps you can update us George but predictions of polling looks like Cons wiped out, Labour gaining a dozen or two seats and SNP, whilst still being the largest party will be much smaller than currently is  ?  Many of us are still what clear what happened with the SNP finances, are the police close to concluding the investigation and acting on what they find ?

 

What is clear is that we will all be taxed loads.  Autumn statement was clearly better for those on £50K pa plus rather than those on £13k to £30k, nothing new there for the Cons !!

 

Edited 12 December, 2023 by lol-lol

[Ootohere]

Burning Bridges, or is it Boats is the Labour Party leaders issue.

 

He might get votes with his words about Margaret Thatcher but there are Scottish Labour Supporters and possible voters that he will have lost and his words might just mean candidates in the General Election from Labour Scotland will not get seats.

[lol-lol]

Prediction seems to be that Labour and SNP will have about the same amount of seats ie around 20-22 and amazingly the Cons still keep 11 or so with Libs having 4........

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/23948629.poll-predicts-result-every-scottish-seat-next-general-election/

 

 

AN in-depth analysis of Westminster voting intention has predicted which party will win every seat in Scotland at the next General Election.

Analysts at Stonehaven political consultancy used a statistical technique called multi-level regression and post-stratification (MRP) to forecast how every constituency would vote.

They predicted a Labour landslide across the UK, with the party returning some 402 MPs – a majority of 154.

 

The poll analysis also has bad news for the SNP, who are predicted to return “only 20 MPs to Westminster, its worst General Election result since 2010”.

Of the 57 constituencies in Scotland under the newly drawn boundaries, Scottish Labour were predicted to win 22 seats. The Tories were also expected to put in a strong performance, returning 11 Scots MPs.  The LibDems were predicted to win the remaining four seats north of the Border.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 15 December, 2023 by lol-lol

[@Lee]

Terrible news really if the exit polls for Rochdale are correct. 

The pro Putin scumbag George Galloway back as an MP. 

 

[Ootohere]

Rishi is up to Scotland to gee up the Scottish Tories at the Scottish and Conservatives party conference.   Is this another free to do your own stuff day and travel at the public purse for party duties?  And he is up to meet the Captains of the oil and gas industry.  That fund the party and candidates.   Hopefully in the GE he is in for a drubbing in Scotland and his wee lap dog brown noser Andrew Bowie MP will not get elected.  (Nuclear and renewable energy Under Secretary of State and inch high 'special forces wannabe'. ) He will get into the House of Lords when not elected.  The Scottish Labour Candidates are certain to be no place as far as MP in the north and north east of Scotland.         Re George Galloway MP.  I worked beside his mum who was lovely.  And remember his days in Dundee and he was a snouter first class.  Gaddafi funded the free newspaper in Dundee and much more.  

Edited 1 March by Rooted

[lol-lol]

3 hours ago, Rooted said:

Rishi is up to Scotland to gee up the Scottish Tories at the Scottish and Conservatives party conference.   Is this another free to do your own stuff day and travel at the public purse for party duties?  And he is up to meet the Captains of the oil and gas industry.  That fund the party and candidates.   Hopefully in the GE he is in for a drubbing in Scotland and his wee lap dog brown noser Andrew Bowie MP will not get elected.  (Nuclear and renewable energy Under Secretary of State and inch high 'special forces wannabe'. ) He will get into the House of Lords when not elected.  The Scottish Labour Candidates are certain to be no place as far as MP in the north and north east of Scotland.         Re George Galloway MP.  I worked beside his mum who was lovely.  And remember his days in Dundee and he was a snouter first class.  Gaddafi funded the free newspaper in Dundee and much more.  

 

 

Good advert for forthcoming Big Brother Celebrity show.....

 

 

 

[@Lee]

12 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

 

Good advert for forthcoming Big Brother Celebrity show.....

 

 

 

 

It's good but it's not as good as images/ video of Galloway supporting and defending the likes of Assad and Sadam Hussain. 

Farage has piped up and called him divisive in an irony of ironies. And they used to be so pally. 

 

 

 

 

Sunak's clearly worried as he gave his speech on how to be a hypocrite at 5:45 on a Friday. Nobody does that. It was only worth an email to his mates at the Torygaff at best. If he had the balls he'd just call a GE. 

[@Lee]

Richard Tice and his Reform party can't understand why they were beaten 🤣 

FYI voter fraud is extremely rare in the UK as evidenced in another topic. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 March by @Lee

[EnterName]

You can always spot halfwit political commentary because it always details at some length who constituents should not have voted for, but invariably omits to advise them on who they should have voted for. 🙄

It takes a true intellectual giant to say "Now I don't think you wanted to vote like that!".

 

For all his grifting, hypocritical inconsistencies and dodgy mates, Galloway is an excellent politician and a worthy winner.

He assembled a dedicated team, campaigned hard, then beat the easily beatable and very unpopular Conservatives' candidate, mainly because most Conservative voters (and a lot of the rest of the voters in Rochdale) stayed at home.

Who else were Rochdale going to vote for?

 

Galloway won Rochdale with less votes than the Conservatives lost with in 2019.

The dodgy Labour candidate couldn't even get the Labour party to support him, came a dismal, albeit hilarious third.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098

 

Thereafter came the reliably useless Lib Dems, who just beat Reform UK, who have yet to find many people who can trust them, particularly amongst the sort of people they think SHOULD be supporting them.

Following them came a mess of independents and a fringe loony party. (The Greens, I mean.)

The Monster Raving Loony party achieved last place.

As I asked before, if not Galloway, who else were the people of Rochdale going to vote for?

 

Galloway gives his own devastating analysis of the result here. Oof! 😄

 

 

 

Edited 2 March by EnterName

[J.R.]

A lot of sore losers, was the result a surprise perhaps? I have a feeling of déjà vu  but from where I wonder..............

 

He was very patient with the interviewer and I enjoyed the parting shot.

[EnterName]

11 hours ago, J.R. said:

A lot of sore losers, was the result a surprise perhaps? I have a feeling of déjà vu  but from where I wonder..............

He was very patient with the interviewer and I enjoyed the parting shot.

I was trying to work out what the source of the anger against Galloway is.

It's understandable that someone on the political right wouldn't take to him, but a Scottish, anti-Zionist Socialist? He seems tailor-made for some of his critics.

Then I realised Galloway has committed two cardinal sins: He hasn't given full-throated support to Ukraine, and worst of all, he supported Brexit! A truly unforgivable sin for some.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8993306/george-galloway-brexit-party-peterborough-by-election/