Rutherglen election result

[lol-lol]

A massive swing away from SNP to Labour so how many seats could Labour win to add to their England and Wales seat won at General Election when it comes ?

 

Tide in Scotland turned after SNP problems and I do not see Labour winning a majority in Scotland but maybe cities like Glasgow turning red rather than yellow or blue ?

 

Party conference season continue this week so Labour need to sit pretty or be bold ?

 

Parties voted out rather than voted in ?

 

[Ootohere]

@lol-lol

I think you are listening to Journalists or experts or politicians that might hope.  Elephant's in the room. Sir Keir Starmer  MP & Anas Sarwar MSP.

 

*The Total number of Labor MP,s in Scotland in this parliament is now TWO, it was ONE. Ian Murray MP.*

 

She who was the MP was a chancer and should have stood down when caught and not filled her pockets right up to being punted.

Pure and simple as that.

 

Then there is the SNP Leader & First Minister. Snouter first class who lives on the other side of the country from his constituency.   

Then the last Ex First Minister and clique who are still the clique pulling the strings.

 

So the SNP getting a drubbing at the next Holyrood Election is fair enough and at the General election.

 

It does not change the fact the Scottish Labour party and Scottish Labour run Councils are hopeless and have as many snouters, as are the Scottish Conservatives and Unionists and Scottish Liberal Democrats & Scottish Greens.

 

None of them fit to run a Window Cleaning Business or anything as a Sole Director / Employee -Workers.

 

The dross gets seats in Westminster and those that like being nearer to home or not so near and paid to spend time in Edinburgh stand for Holyrood.

They even get a seat for decades having only got a seat from the List. 

 

..............

59 MP,s  get elected in Scotland.

Labour has 2 today the same as ALBA,

& the Scottish Conservatives 6.

Scottish Liberal Democrats 4.

1 Independent.

Scottish National Party 44.

Edited 6 October, 2023 by toot

[lol-lol]

Very hard to predict what the General Election result in Scotland might be, I note inews are talking about up to 20 seats for Labour.....

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-target-seats-scotland-uk-election-2669666?ico=above_article_ticker

Labour can now target more than 20 seats in Scotland that could swing UK election, pollsters say

Chris Hopkins, political research director at polling firm Savanta, believes Labour can make significant gains in Scotland at the next general election.

Labour ousted the SNP in Rutherglen & Hamilton West with a 20.4 percentage point swing in today’s by-election, meaning it could return to being the largest party north of the border.  Labour candidate Michael Shanks won 58.6 per cent of the vote against the SNP’s 27.5 per cent, in a victory that opens the doors to a majority for Sir Keir at the next general election.

[Ootohere]

Did i hear said today that back when Scottish Labour had 41 MPs that the Labour Party still never won the election?

 

Tom. D!ck & D!ck in that picture. 

 

Michael Shanks MP did a Robert the Bruce Spider thing. He tried, tried and tried again.

 

The Scottish Labour thing is that the party can not stand on the same things as the Labour Party or they do not get seats, it is just the Leader that will not tell Sir Keir that the Scottish Party are not with him. 

 

Too many champagne Socialists or as they are Tory light.

 

 

Edited 6 October, 2023 by toot

[Baxlin]

If there is still a fairly large percentage of Scots wanting independence, but Labour appearing to be against, it would still seem a fairly steep hill for them to climb, notwithstanding this result.

[Ootohere]

You do not need to be a Scot to have a vote in Scotland & there are even non Scots in Scotland that want Independence, and there are still many adults in Scotland that could have a vote and do not. 

 

The SNP need to get a grip because they are messing up so many projects because of incompetent Politicians that should never be involved in multi million spending when they never had any paid employment pre being elected that trusted them to buy a carry out.

 

Some idiot on the GB News page commented the 16 year olds had not bothered to turn out to vote.

I replied that this was a Westminster By-Election and 16 & 17 year olds get a vote in Holyrood Elections or Referendum.

 

Their reply is where do i think this by-election is?     You just cant cure stupid.   That includes me registering to GB News just to reply.

Edited 7 October, 2023 by toot

[lol-lol]

32 minutes ago, toot said:

You do not need to be a Scot to have a vote in Scotland & there are even non Scots in Scotland that want Independence, and there are still many adults in Scotland that could have a vote and do not. 

 

The SNP need to get a grip because they are messing up so many projects because of incompetent Politicians that should never be involved in multi million spending when they never had any paid employment pre being elected that trusted them to buy a carry out.

 

Some idiot on the GB News page commented the 16 year olds had not bothered to turn out to vote.

I replied that this was a Westminster By-Election and 16 & 17 year olds get a vote in Holyrood Elections or Referendum.

 

There reply is where do i think this by-election is?     You just cant cure stupid.   That includes me registering to GB News just to reply.

 

I like to listen for a few minutes of the ultra right wing GB News and Talk Radio just to see what bile they are secreting at any one time.  

 

As I usually listen to those "radio" stations on Amazon Alexa these stations say "Just say register GB News/ Talk Radio with Alexa so you do not have hear the message every time you ask for the channel but no, I do not even do that for the BBC ie scan the QR code, only need to do it once to register, no thanks.  I will not register with any radio station like that.

 

Sky TV does it automatically anf I cannot do anything about that but will not voluntarily register with such sewage outlet, or even the BBC, to give any sort of credence to their outlet and be associated in anyway as being a registered party on their "mailing/connection" list.

  

[Ootohere]

Anas Sarwar MP is at least not the same as his father (he had enough tax payers money) or brother but sadly he is a man out of his depth.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaudhry_Mohammad_Sarwar

 

Innocent. 

http://theguardian.co.uk/uk/1999/mar/26/2

 

 

 

 

Edited 7 October, 2023 by toot

[EnterName]

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

I like to listen for a few minutes of the ultra right wing GB News and Talk Radio just to see what bile they are secreting at any one time.  

"Ulta-right", when "far-right" just isn't right-wing enough. 😄

Presumably, beyond "ultra-right" lies "super-right", beyond which is the realm of the "hyper-right"?

Nice to see the SNP get a well-deserved kicking at that election. 👌

 

[Ootohere]

@EnterNameWhat if any difference does the number of Scottish MP,s from any party being in Westminster or Holyrood make to you other than maybe some will vote with whoever represents your views?

 

The 6 Scottish Conservative & Unionist MP,s are a disgrace and especially Alister Jack MP and Secretary of State for Scotland who is hanging on collecting the money til he heads to the House of Lords. 

Not wanting a by-election in his Constituency.  If there is any justice Andrew Bowie MP will be punted at the next GE along with plenty others who care little about Scotland and more about their lifestyles.

 

It is rather more important ro Scotland that the SNP get a kicking in the Scottish Elections.  

Then Scotland is back under some hash up between parties  forming the Government for a term or 3 to see just how hopeless any of them are.

 

 

 

[EnterName]

On 07/10/2023 at 11:21, toot said:

@EnterNameWhat if any difference does the number of Scottish MP,s from any party being in Westminster or Holyrood make to you other than maybe some will vote with whoever represents your views?

I don't like the SNP.

[Ootohere]

@EnterName  That is OK. 

You know that they do not vote on England only matters, unlike the single Labour MP from Scotland or the 6 Tories, but there are rebels. 

[lol-lol]

Labour will be hoping and working to get back to the 2005 position shown as below....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_Kingdom_general_election

 

[Ootohere]

I have an issue and that is just regional accents and i know that is pathetic.

Posh might get on my wick but Rachel Reeves does my nut in, then Jonathan Ashworth, Wes Streeting and others.

I know they can not help where they come from.   Micheal Gove's voice is just weird.

 

It is not an English only thing with me as there are Scottish accents that i just loath and these are mostly Glaswegian but also Dundonians, 

actually almost anyone's voice has me turning off the channel on the telly or radio when they open their gobs.

 

It is mostly SNP & Scottish or UK Labour i have decided. 

 

I left Rachel Reeves prattling on in the background while i typed this. 

 Hopefully she is punted at the next GE and she can go earn a living again in Economics and save me having to listen to her when there is a budget. 

 

Labour Party people at the conference clap like performing seals.  That annoys me as well. 

Then that adoration on the face on Wes Streeting is a sight to behold.

 

Edited 9 October, 2023 by toot

[Ootohere]

A SNP MP has defected to the Scottish Conservative Party.

 

Fair enough as to why she has left the SNP & it is why many others should step off the gravy train and see if they get allowed back on. 

 Not sure about being elected as a SNP MP when the party is first and foremost about Independence for Scotland & the party she has joined is the Scottish Conservative & Unionist Party.

 

Really she should resign from the SNP and as a MP and allow a by-election in her constituency and see if she gets re-elected, or maybe someone from the other parties.

Maybe Greens, Lib Dems. Labour, ALBA or others including Independents or her as a Conservative.

[@Lee]

Unusual to see a rat heading towards a sinking ship.

[@Lee]

On 12/10/2023 at 10:13, @Lee said:

Unusual to see a rat heading towards a sinking ship.

I did say the tory party was a sinking ship. An almost 25% swing towards Labour in Tamworth and Mid Bedfordshire, a tory seat since 1931, has turned against them and shifted to Labour.

Sunak or Sunackered? Time to throw in the towel methinks and call a GE. Get you ID sorted/ postal vote application in.

Edited 20 October, 2023 by @Lee

[EnterName]

On 20/10/2023 at 11:28, @Lee said:

I did say the tory party was a sinking ship. An almost 25% swing towards Labour in Tamworth and Mid Bedfordshire, a tory seat since 1931, has turned against them and shifted to Labour.

The sooner the Conservative party exists only in history books and distant memory, the better.

I can't say Labour is my preferred alternative, but I'd take another Blair government over the fake conservatives that we have gatekeeping the political right at the moment.

[Schtum]

26 minutes ago, EnterName said:

The sooner the Conservative party exists only in history books and distant memory, the better.

I can't say Labour is my preferred alternative, but I'd take another Blair government over the fake conservatives that we have gatekeeping the political right at the moment.

 

Personally, I think the complete eradication of the Conservative mindset would have enormous benefit to the human race. 

[EnterName]

2 hours ago, Schtum said:

 

Personally, I think the complete eradication of the Conservative mindset would have enormous benefit to the human race. 

It's being tried in higher education with some effect.

However once the kids leave university and reality sets in, the intoxicating effect of leftism usually wears off.

[Schtum]

10 minutes ago, EnterName said:

It's being tried in higher education with some effect.

However once the kids leave university and reality sets in, the intoxicating effect of leftism usually wears off.

 

Q.E.D. 

[EnterName]

"Then I replied Q.E.D. and everyone clapped."

Reddit has a lot to answer for.

[kodiaqsportline]

On 21/10/2023 at 18:56, Schtum said:

 

Personally, I think the complete eradication of the Conservative mindset would have enormous benefit to the human race. 

 

The irony of that comment made me smile because without a conservative minset, there would be no Briskoda.

 

How many members are there in Pyongyang ?

Edited 23 October, 2023 by kodiaqsportline

[@Lee]

29 minutes ago, kodiaqsportline said:

 

The irony of that comment made me smile because without a conservative minset, there would be no Briskoda.

 

How many members are there in Pyongyang ?

 

A website that let's anyone from anywhere access, for free, a whole host of information and experience of Skoda ownership plus all the other non automotive stuff with different tiers of membership from free to freedom for less than a couple of pub price pints a year and, in lots of cases, doesn't even require you to have joined to access it. 

 

A website that has in the past organised national and local meets and even track days in a non profit (in some cases maybe even a loss)  way?

 

A conservative mindset? 

 

Hmmm 🤔

[EnterName]

On 21/10/2023 at 18:56, Schtum said:

Personally, I think the complete eradication of the Conservative mindset would have enormous benefit to the human race. 

16 hours ago, kodiaqsportline said:

The irony of that comment made me smile because without a conservative minset, there would be no Briskoda.

 

15 hours ago, @Lee said:

A website that let's anyone from anywhere access, for free, a whole host of information and experience of Skoda ownership plus all the other non automotive stuff with different tiers of membership from free to freedom for less than a couple of pub price pints a year and, in lots of cases, doesn't even require you to have joined to access it. 

 

A website that has in the past organised national and local meets and even track days in a non profit (in some cases maybe even a loss)  way?

 

A conservative mindset? 

 

Hmmm 🤔

Hmmm?

Well let's see.

 

One supreme leader who wields absolute power with fairness and the best interests of the website in mind.

A small number of people appointed by the supreme leader, who are permitted to wield power in accordance with the supreme leader's rules, any of whom can have their power removed by the supreme leader at any time.

Questioning of decisions made by the supreme leader or his appointees is forbidden.

All are welcome, but there are no rights here, only privileges, which can be withdrawn at any time for any reason, and offenders exiled without appeal.

People willing to pay can get a better experience on here, but there is zero tax imposed by the supreme leader.

Obscene material banned.

Etc.

 

Yeah, I'd say that's a conservative mindset, and then some!

If only the UK was run like Briskoda...