Can you old ducks stop winding each other up and having ****ing contests over who's got more HNDs etc please. Nobody really gives a toss who had to get old buses or whatever going back in the day. 

Ta. 

Edited 26 November, 20232 yr by @Lee

8 hours ago, @Lee said:

Can you old ducks stop winding each other up and having ****ing contests over who's got more HNDs etc please. Nobody really gives a toss who had to get old buses or whatever going back in the day. 

Ta. 

 

To be fair to the others it was @lol-lolthat started the qualification ****ing contest from what I can make out...  

 

 

Edited 26 November, 20232 yr by skomaz

16 hours ago, skomaz said:

 

To be fair to the others it was @lol-lolthat started the qualification ****ing contest from what I can make out...  

 

 

To be fair I'm really not interested in the 'but he started it, Miss'.

5 hours ago, @Lee said:

To be fair I'm really not interested in the 'but he started it, Miss'.

 

That's fair...   To be fair...🤣

I finished it before your intervention.

There are academics & professionals with the information and knowledge out and about looking at and dealing with things.

(Probably none of them members or contributors on this forum.)

http://autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/how-much-fire-risk-are-electric-vehicles

 

............................

No idea why he said this @ 1 minute & @ 4 mins 15 seconds about the Yellow Badge and telling Fire Brigade or anyone else it is an Electric Car.

Someone must have been feeding him guff or he just came up with it himself.

There are no regulations i know of of marking / badging passenger cars as BEV, PHEV, or Mild Hybrid as Factory Standard or not being allowed to De-badge.

& The Green Flash Registration Plates are not mandatory.

 

It is just a Yellow S at the front and side now & the Round Yellow badge at the back that i have a Saltire on.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 November, 20232 yr by Rooted

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YouTube is awash with EV scaremongering and the number of people Googling terms such as 'Tesla battery fire' was up around 50% in 2023 when compared to 2022. 

Hum..... 

 

Another nice rounded article.

 

Ultimately EV fires do exist and fire fighters/car parks need to be prepared, of course that doesn't concern us drivers. What concerns us is that there's absolutely zero evidence to say EV are equal or more likely to catch fire than ICE vehicle. Current evidence (UK OZEV, and referenced by Guardian, this Autocar) points to an order of magnitude less fire claims than ICE vehicle. 

To be fair, I don't think YT is awash with anyone saying EV will go into self combust mode. I think it is more a case of, if the traction battery does get involved in the fire, the consequences could be more severe and insurance claims could be far higher. That said when the ratio of BEV's to ICE is the reverse of today, fire claims will rise as a result of wear and tear, and poor maintenance begin to take effect. 

Edited 27 November, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

Maybe.

You might hope since the 10 year olds which are early tech are not commonly catching fire and might not be more prone to in the coming years might be how things go.

 

It the build quality / engineering and complexity has something to do with newer cars being worse than older ones then there should be a lesson there to learn.

Vorsprung Durch Technik. 

 

Don't be daft, be smart, advance in technology and safety.    That will be the job of newer batteries maybe.  

 

What we need is to have a list of those most likely to burn and die.  Per capita.

Oh dear yet another piece of poor journalism, this time regarding the open air car park at Bristol airport, which uses a photo of the fire at Luton airport as the attention grabber, which has some readers already commenting and blaming it on an EV with zero evidence to suggest it was the cause. At least the Luton fire did have some footage of a car on fire, which did tend to suggest that it could have been an EV, but it seems now that was not the case.

 

Airport car park fire breaks out at Bristol although fire crews quick to extinguish blaze | Regit

Edited 12 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

@@Lee Why the confused emoji? 

36 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

@@Lee Why the confused emoji? 

Because when I opened the link (your post had been up for six minutes) and there was no picture of the Luton RR fire but a video that was taken at quite some distance from the Bistol airport fire.

34 minutes ago, @Lee said:

Because when I opened the link (your post had been up for six minutes) and there was no picture of the Luton RR fire but a video that was taken at quite some distance from the Bistol airport fire.

Oh, that's odd, because I just tested that link I posted, and it works perfectly OK for me, something wrong at your end I think. I attach a screen print of the photo that I refer to on my post.

 

 

39 minutes ago, @Lee said:

Because when I opened the link (your post had been up for six minutes) and there was no picture of the Luton RR fire but a video that was taken at quite some distance from the Bistol airport fire.

That's odd; I just opened @Graham Butcher link and it was exactly as he described. Do you actually understand the difference between a still photo and a video clip?  

7 minutes ago, Paws4Thot said:

That's odd; I just opened @Graham Butcher link and it was exactly as he described. Do you actually understand the difference between a still photo and a video clip?  

 

No. Have they invented moving pictures now? Maybe one day they'll have the ability to add sound - we could call them 'talkies'.  

@Graham Butcher maybe it was the article updating or something but the banner you posted just now was a blank white space when I opened it.

@@Lee I see, I was wondering if you were looking at it on a mobile phone for a moment, as they can do some weird **** at times if the site is not optimised for mobile usage.

Edited 12 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

Fire quickly extinguished…Suggests not an EV.

Silver car park = way away, and not multi story.

 

Edit: that first comment from a Graeme on the links comments section suggests a tin foil hat is required by the poster. EV are a conspiracy to reduce the population and let country x take over the world. The government are in cahoots and it is one big cover up conspiracy man!

 

Edited 28 December, 20232 yr by cheezemonkhai

Electric bus fire this morning: 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944657

 

We shall have to wait and see whether being electric had any effect on this fire. 

 

Historic government data for cause of bus fires: 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-into-bus-fires-reported-to-dvsa-from-2020-to-2022/investigation-into-bus-fires-reported-to-dvsa-from-2020-to-2022#reported-bus-fires

 

 

Well, going by the looks of the still photo and the way that the flames are shooting right the way across the road from the offside of the bus, I'd hazard a guess that the answer is yes. There are no flames on the nearside and I doubt that there would be anything else on the bus that would/could produce a flamethrower effect like that.

 

Interesting reading the DVSA report into bus fires, they could only pin 8 down to fuel leaking (diesel).

 

Reminds me of the time when a new bus service was started to serve a new estate in Chelmsford while I was working on the buses, the women on that estate set about sabotaging the buses as they did not think it was safe for children in their street (WTF why did they allow their children to play on the road?). Because the terminus of the route happened to be in their road, while the bus waiting its time to do the return journey, they would open the fuel filler cap and tip bags of sugar into the tank. This did little to help their cause because the crew would call the police out to investigate, and also it meant that we engineers would have to take the breakdown truck out into their street and tow the stricken bus back to the garage to drain the tanks and flush them out. It also meant that another replacement service bus had to be sent in order to carry the passengers onto their destinations.  This was a pretty regular occurrence, and it lead to a almost permanent police presence for a while. This continued until arrests were made and prosecutions took place. 🙄

 

 

Edited 11 January, 20242 yr by Graham Butcher

Will it be one of these?

 

 

The BBC article mentioned "Switch". So most probably these buses:

https://www.switchmobilityev.com/en/metrodecker

4 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

The BBC article mentioned "Switch". So most probably these buses:

https://www.switchmobilityev.com/en/metrodecker

It certainly does look like one of those, but the photo is not very clear owing to the brightness of the flames affecting the cameras settings. It does appear to have the lights in that arrangement and the "smile" under the windscreen.

@wyx087, you were spot on with the type of bus, here is a better photo.

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

It certainly does look like one of those, but the photo is not very clear owing to the brightness of the flames affecting the cameras settings. It does appear to have the lights in that arrangement and the "smile" under the windscreen.

 

Small English company owned by an Indian company, sounds a bit like Land Rover. 

Only 30 out the thousand electric buses TfL have. Expect they may find it difficult to get more orders.   

Optare Metrodecker 1050 bus.

 

If you look at the first video in the article the flames appear to be coming from a reasonable way up the rear of the bus.

 

Batteries usually are as low as possible and so I wouldn’t be certain they are the initial cause. 
 

circle  back though, and whilst there a limited fires where that battery starts the fire there are probably more where something else does and could engulf the battery.

 

As with all things there is a period of time until technology in one area catches up with another. In this case fire fighting tech and regulation will catch up and will need to.

 

i now await hindenburg newspaper headlines for hydrogen powered freight.