Where is the video?

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Where is the video?

A Felicia with different suspension, different tyres, different brake pads-disks-fluid will bring different results.

Speed was? I mean this was a 60km-0?

6 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

A Felicia with different suspension, different tyres, different brake pads-disks-fluid will bring different results.

Speed was? I mean this was a 60km-0?

Yes 60 to 0.

The point is demonstrating that even a partial momentary lockup near the end of the braking maneuver will cost precious meters, alas it was locked on purpose.

I mean it's not there to prove the Felicia (my Felicia) stops well, it's just there to prove a point a lot of people miss

Edited 10 December, 202510 Dec by Thefeliciahacker

When i bought my Felicia the seller offered a package for 700 euro,was ABS plus airbags but i didn't had the money for this.

Although the 1st ABS generation had some ''issues'' in speeds below 30 km, i admit than in rain (National Highway) i would feel more ''secure'' if i had it.

I have locked my brakes in emergency situations 3 times,was not a pleasure experience.

33 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Although the 1st ABS generation had some ''issues'' in speeds below 30 km, i admit than in rain (National Highway) i would feel more ''secure'' if i had it.

I have locked my brakes in emergency situations 3 times,was not a pleasure experience.

In the wet if it locks you dont loose around 20% of brake force like in the dry, you loose more than 50%

I agree that's why in Highways were the speed is 80-100 Km i am very cautious and i keep a bigger distance from the leading vehicle.

Plus with the great fear of aquaplaning while it rains i don't dare to make an overtake like this idiot:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR44oKJkalJ/

28 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Plus with the great fear of aquaplaning while it rains i don't dare to make an overtake like this idiot:

Well I am not really afraid of aquaplaning if there is not standing water, it needs quite deep standing water to aquaplane below 110 km/h plus its almost impossible with our narrow tires

First generation ABS problems:

First-generation ABS problems often stem from aging components like faulty wheel speed sensors, damaged sensor wires (from road debris), worn wheel bearings/tone rings, or issues with the electronic control module (ECU/EBCM) or pump, leading to the ABS/Traction Control lights illuminating, incorrect speed readings, or brake lock-up/pulsation during hard braking. These systems rely on precise wheel speed data, so any disruption from corrosion, physical damage, or wear triggers failures, often manifesting as the dashboard warning lights

They just have a long response time, and that causes them to have an effective lower duty cycle. Still a human cannot easily beat them!

The TC-6 worthed the extra cost,very helpful but as for the 1st generation ABS i am not convinced that worth to install it.

Too much cost and effort.

7 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

very helpful but as for the 1st generation ABS i am not convinced that worth to install it.

Too much cost and effort.

If I could find an untouched donor vehicle, I would install it, but it has to be complete

The whole system plus the mechanic's labour work for remove it-install to another car would cost around ?

3 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The whole system plus the mechanic's labour work for remove it-install to another car would cost around ?

If I could get a damaged/crashed Felicia for 500 euros or thereabouts, I would do it in a heartbeat myself.

Then recoup the cost by selling different spare parts

https://www.autoparts-24.com/item/D_0023_990683/

Skoda FELICIA (6U1) ABS pump

422 euro

😲

49 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Skoda FELICIA (6U1) ABS pump

422 euro

I would pay it, but I would send the unit from the donor vehicle for refurbishment to a professional company, so they could flash newer firmware if it were available

Looks a 1000 euro project to me and sort of gamble. Used parts-refurbished-some new trying to make them work together.

Who's going to install them? Ok let's say that someone did it,i case that something will go wrong in the future then where you are going to refer to?

Mechanics below 40 years old don't know anything about Felicia.

2 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Looks a 1000 euro project to me and sort of gamble. Used parts-refurbished-some new trying to make them work together.

Who's going to install them? Ok let's say that someone did it,i case that something will go wrong in the future then where you are going to refer to?

Maybe you hire a guy like me?

Joking aside, these things are usually done by the owner themself. It IS NOT A MECHANIC'S JOB. Sadly, you lack the space to work, which is a significant issue. BUT YOU HAVE THE SKILLS REQUIRED. You could do it as most people in this forum. This subforum now has very few "owners" per se, but rather many experts on these cars.

Think of it this way, between our 10 most active forum members, the collective knowledge and experience is through the roof. Just remember how many EXCEPTIONALLY hard issues have been solved by this forum!!!!!!

Edited 13 December, 202513 Dec by Thefeliciahacker

You already know that our ''democratic'' government (a puppet of Carbon Fee rules of EU) soon will start ''hunt'' cars like Felicia which has Euro 2.

They will make us to pay extra taxes so many of us will be forced to sell it as parts.

https://popek.gr/2023/foros-anthraka-sta-euro5-ix-apo-to-2028/

I will be happy if i manage to keep my Trusty for another 4 years till my retirement,maybe after this the whole cost would be unbearable so how could i risk spend another 1000 euros for ABS on it?

11 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

You already know that our ''democratic'' government (a puppet of Carbon Fee rules of EU) soon will start ''hunt'' cars like Felicia which has Euro 2.

I hope it doesn't happen. Groups are lobbying for special conditions for oldtimer vehicles, FIVA being one of them.

12 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

They will make us to pay extra taxes so many of us will be forced to sell it as parts.

Sadly, they will try, but never fear, if we all try to make our voices heard with our votes, things may (I HOPE) change.

14 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

I will be happy if i manage to keep my Trusty for another 4 years till my retirement,maybe after this the whole cost would be unbearable so how could i risk spend another 1000 euros for ABS on it?

Firstly, it all depends on your finances (and keep in mind your car is low mileage so it could be worth it even if it ends up being "expensive") and secondly, what you plan on doing afterwards, like in 5-6-7 years time. For me, the Felicia is not a daily driver, it's a leisure car. So almost all expenses are "wants" and not "needs". If I have the money, the will, the time, and I feel it's worth it, I would do it.

As I said, though, it's not needed, nor particularly worth it (I mean I would need to re-certify the FIVA card), but sometimes we do things because we like them right?

GR is not USA were you can restomod (new fuel injection engine etc) a Corvette and have it as an everyday car.

With new ECU i had a guarantee from the programmer (and indeed proved right because the new ECU didn't worked properly after a while and the programmer return it back and took another) but for a 1st generation ABS?

I don't know what part must i buy and who's going to guarantee that the whole project will work properly? I case of problems could i find someone to fix it or i will run my car with faulty ABS system? I had some issues with thermostats-radiator fan etc and my car was immobilized, i don't want this to happen in brakes e.g. for a sensor.

10 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

I don't know what part must i buy and who's going to guarantee that the whole project will work properly?

If you implement skoda's solution you are pretty much getting a pre-developed system

On 12/12/2025 at 09:23, D.FYLAKTOS said:

First generation ABS problems:

Felicia's ABS is not first gen. Couldn't find exact capabilities, but pre-facelift models used units from MY95+ MK3 golf, which was already upgraded unit, capable of replacing rear pressure regulator and optional EDS function, which suggests it's at least 3-channel system (independent control of front wheels and rear axle).

Post-facelift models use Lupo (standard) or MK4 Golf (EDS) control unit - I found conflicting information whether those are 3 or 4 channel systems, but it's apparent that Felicia was on par with VAG models of the time.

1 hour ago, Papez said:

Felicia's ABS is not first gen. Couldn't find exact capabilities, but pre-facelift models used units from MY95+ MK3 golf, which was already upgraded unit, capable of replacing rear pressure regulator and optional EDS function, which suggests it's at least 3-channel system (independent control of front wheels and rear axle).

Post-facelift models use Lupo (standard) or MK4 Golf (EDS) control unit - I found conflicting information whether those are 3 or 4 channel systems, but it's apparent that Felicia was on par with VAG models of the time.

Indeed, there were 3 channels from what I knew, but rather slow in terms of effective duty cycle.

6:08

59 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Indeed, there were 3 channels from what I knew, but rather slow in terms of effective duty cycle.

Found some more detailed info about Octavia's ABS

https://www.scribd.com/document/357889912/SSP-26-Octavia-Vehicle-Safety

At least the EDS version is 4-channel, but duty cycle is 5-6 cycles/s (same figure for the older MK3 golf system)

Edited 18 December, 202518 Dec by Papez