34 minutes ago, Occy245 said:

Completely agree, but what happens when you need to get your Xiaomi SU7 serviced :(

Presumably like many of the 'newer' brands they'll come to you or do a pick up and drop off.

8 minutes ago, skomaz said:

Presumably like many of the 'newer' brands they'll come to you or do a pick up and drop off.

I suppose in time they will become like BYD and the others. They will all seriously undercut the UK market.

The only drawback to all of them is the longevity (with regards to servicing too), but then again is that really any different to BMW or any of the more established brands now?

23 hours ago, Occy245 said:

I suppose in time they will become like BYD and the others. They will all seriously undercut the UK market.

The only drawback to all of them is the longevity (with regards to servicing too), but then again is that really any different to BMW or any of the more established brands now?

The politics will kick in before that with tariffs etc, it'll just mean higher forecourt prices, the established brands will put up their prices as well.
I think for me cars will be the equivalent of a washing machine, I'll buy (probably lease) the cheapest thing that does the job. If they all look cheap and nasty why pay a premium?
We'll inevitably get an electric but it'll be nothing special as I will no longer care. If it autodrives so much the better.
I'll get a classic for the garage as something to enjoy.

Fun (?) fact...

was chattin to my dad yesterday who had been talking to his local mechanic who told him he was in a local Hyundai dealers collecting some parts. he was chitchattin with one of the lads in their workshop, askin were they busy.

and was told, they were tipping along kept busy but they were going to get fairly hectic. there is currently 13 (yes, thirteen) 2024 reg Santa fes out the back with blown engines, waiting on the new ones to be delivered...

1 hour ago, mac11irl said:

Fun (?) fact...

was chattin to my dad yesterday who had been talking to his local mechanic who told him he was in a local Hyundai dealers collecting some parts. he was chitchattin with one of the lads in their workshop, askin were they busy.

and was told, they were tipping along kept busy but they were going to get fairly hectic. there is currently 13 (yes, thirteen) 2024 reg Santa fes out the back with blown engines, waiting on the new ones to be delivered...

Blimey... That's bad... I quite like the look of them too but if that's reality it's pretty off-putting

3 hours ago, skomaz said:

Blimey... That's bad... I quite like the look of them too but if that's reality it's pretty off-putting

you like the look of them?!

its like a slightly blurry faxed picture of a 1997 jeep cherokee.. except somehow even boxxier 😳

4 minutes ago, mac11irl said:

you like the look of them?!

its like a slightly blurry faxed picture of a 1997 jeep cherokee.. except somehow even boxxier 😳

I can see what you mean but yeah I quite like the boxyness of it... I also like the Kia Sorrento too.

Maybe it's just me... 🤣

5 hours ago, mac11irl said:

Fun (?) fact...

was chattin to my dad yesterday who had been talking to his local mechanic who told him he was in a local Hyundai dealers collecting some parts. he was chitchattin with one of the lads in their workshop, askin were they busy.

and was told, they were tipping along kept busy but they were going to get fairly hectic. there is currently 13 (yes, thirteen) 2024 reg Santa fes out the back with blown engines, waiting on the new ones to be delivered...

I don't know how much they're sharing tech with Kia (I know if used to be a lot), but a mate of mine's got a Sportage that's on it's 3rd engine. 7 year warranty though, so she's not bothered

My mates tuscon sat for 9 months last year waiting on delivery of an oil pump and a blown turbo, he got shut as soon as it was repaired.

1 hour ago, StevesTruck said:

I don't know how much they're sharing tech with Kia (I know if used to be a lot), but a mate of mine's got a Sportage that's on it's 3rd engine. 7 year warranty though, so she's not bothered

warrantyor not id be getting fair sick of not having my vehicle because the engine keeps eating itself..

one of my main contractor reps in work had a hybrid kia thing for about 5months. it spent more time in the dealers than at work. his company insisted on a replacement vehicle after the 5th trip and went back to a diesel for him, which also had gearbox issues...

4 minutes ago, Mickvrs220 said:

My mates tuscon sat for 9 months last year waiting on delivery of an oil pump and a blown turbo, he got shut as soon as it was repaired.

wonder is it the same failure points as the santa fes are having 🤷‍♂️ the dealer tech mentioned theyd had a couple of tuscons in as well...

8 hours ago, mac11irl said:

Santa fes

Image of a cross between Santa and Fez .

2 hours ago, mac11irl said:

wonder is it the same failure points as the santa fes are having 🤷‍♂️ the dealer tech mentioned theyd had a couple of tuscons in as well...

Apparently there lawsuits across aus and USA at kia for putting out known oil starvation issues with their diesels

Your gonna have to tell me more now... My sister's been looking at Tucson self charging hybrids to replace her old Kuga...

Certain models between 2010 to 2020 my mates was a 2016 1.7 diesel tuscon .

On 12/04/2025 at 15:51, mac11irl said:

warrantyor not id be getting fair sick of not having my vehicle because the engine keeps eating itself..

one of my main contractor reps in work had a hybrid kia thing for about 5months. it spent more time in the dealers than at work. his company insisted on a replacement vehicle after the 5th trip and went back to a diesel for him, which also had gearbox issues...

Last time it had an engine put in, the only thing they'd got to lend her was a Stinger GT. That and she's got a habit of picking up a courtesy car with a full tank of fuel and taking it back on less than fumes 🤣

Edited 16 April, 20251 yr by StevesTruck

Is it just me or does every new car now seem to have been designed in Minecraft?










I used to be able to identify a car in seconds from a flash of one corner or a small part, now...nope I have no idea everything looks the same.

Aand just today

"You're never alone with a clone" :)

I wonder where designers get all their ideas from...

CoPilot draw me a childish picture of a car....

10min with a free AI and I am a car designer



Admittedly it refuses to include a banana for scale

After much arguing, I got the banana in.
It was fixated on having a banana next to a 1960a Lotus or GT40 but after a few prods got this...



With this I humbly suggest I'm better at designing cars than most manufactrers. I'd rather buy this one.

It's AI design, there you go keep prodding and eventually you get the same thing -

Edited 29 April, 20251 yr by Aspman

Can you design a large tub of custard to go with that bannana 😁

Edited 29 April, 20251 yr by Mickvrs220

5 hours ago, Aspman said:

I wonder where designers get all their ideas from...

CoPilot draw me a childish picture of a car....

10min with a free AI and I am a car designer



Admittedly it refuses to include a banana for scale

Im slightly more concerned about the lad that appears to have been Philadelphia-project'ed into the wall of the building.. it appears the AI has been partially trained on Conspiracy theories 🤣🤣

Edited 29 April, 20251 yr by mac11irl

5 hours ago, Aspman said:

It's AI design, there you go keep prodding and eventually you get the same thing -

this one looks like those car-icatures that were popular back in the early 00s. (ya know the ones that gave civics huge wheels, and tiny windscreens, but massive spoilers and bonnets scoops )