I'm going to soon change the timing belt on my 2017 Fabia (CJCZ engine) and want to have the right tools. The maintenance manual shows T10554 and T10172A for holding the inlet camshaft. How necessary is this tool? I don't intend to remove the cam pulleys (unless there is a good reason I don't know of) so it seems like an unnecessary tool purchase. Also are T10499 and T10500 necessary to turn the tensioner to lock it or is it possible to use a 12 point socket/wrench once the cover is out of the way?

T10340 and T10494 (camshaft clamp and fixing screw) seem worthwhile to prevent going out of time so those I will purchase (even though I will mark everything before disassembly). Has anyone not used these?

I'm at about 110,000 km and have heard varying reports of the correct replacement interval (even if it is a "lifetime" belt I don't want to unexpectedly reach the end of that lifetime). When did you change yours?

Hello, welcome to the forum.

From some of the cautionary tales I've seen on here after the camshafts have been allowed to move, even only very slightly, because the cams were not completely locked in position, I'd strongly suggest investing in the correct tools for the job.

I've even seen instances where supposed professionals have got it wrong.

i bought this tool for 200$

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007567631042.html

@Warrior193 thank you for the reply and the welcome.

I obviously intend on locking the cams and crank with the appropriate tools to avoid any movement (I also intend on marking up everything as a backup).

My question is about the tool used to hold the pulley for removing their attachment bolts. Is this tool necessary if I don't intend to remove the pulleys?

See this screenshot and the steps circled in red (and the tool in question circled in green):

They seem to suggest removing the pulley bolts but I'm not sure why this is necessary for replacing the belt and therefore I'm questioning if the tool used to do this step is necessary for replacing the belt also.

5 hours ago, imart143 said:

i bought this tool for 200$

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007567631042.html

I'll look into this tool. Thanks!

If it is not actually necessary to disturb or remove the cam sprockets, holding tools are possibly not required so long as the camshafts stay locked in position - but this is a job I would rather pay a tech for. I'll flag this to @ApertureS for advice for you.

It is locking tool, like one that is used to lock crankshaft pulley. Can be some universal. Adjustible.

I have that one, also i use tool for blocking one camshaft pulley to another.

https://www.amazon.com/DPTOOL-Camshaft-Sprockets-Holding-Compatible/dp/B0BYP231KX

Also many mechanic make own blocking tools.

Up to you but 110,000 km might be a bit early, you could just give it good inspections until 150/180,000 km (IIRC even VW say 180,000 km or 15 years and IIRC some belt manufacturers say "life".

Typo on engine code(?).

@nta16

Thanks. After reading the maintenance manual it looks removing the top part of the cover is super easy. So I'll probably give it an inspection before I buy the parts and tools.

Yes, I meant CJZC. I do that like every time I type it LOL.

Just for clarity.

This thread is about a 1.2 TSI.

The 1.0 TSI is a different kettle of fish, or an engine that some have messed up doing a fan belt on and ended up with wha tis more like a bag of nails.

7 minutes ago, Cttime said:

@nta16

Thanks. After reading the maintenance manual it looks removing the top part of the cover is super easy. So I'll probably give it an inspection before I buy the parts and tools.

Yes, I meant CJZC. I do that like every time I type it LOL.

Look on the bright side, you might have got shot of the car before the belt needs doing. 😁

I'm King of typos and it's a wonder I noticed that one (it's only because my wife's car's engine is code is that).

ETA: I couldn't find the details to post where VWŠkoda UK finally coughed up and admitted the belts didn't need changing every 5 years/ 50k-miles, too late for us as they robbed us of £430 ! (robbing !"£$%^& con-men).

Edited 13 April, 20251 yr by nta16
ETA:

Yes. 1.2 tsi with the whopping 66 kw. In any case I've had a look at the belt and it looks to me to be a good amount of life left in it but you can be the judge because I took some close ups.

Skoda / VW UK were taking the pith.

The UK is counted as a Dust Free Country & should neverhave been @ 5 years / 50,000 miles.

But it was a money maker.

Then the 1.5 TSI ACT,s were 6.5 hours to do, £850- £1,200 quoted and not the £550 as before.

Not only were owners not doing them at 50,000 miles, they were trading them in and Skoda / VW Group then have Used Cars that they would need to spend their techs time doing. Even if quicker than in 6.5 hours.

If not done then FMDSH and stuff done to Guidelines was out of the door. So Simply Clever, change things.

Hey presto, no more 5 years / 50,000 miles. (Check different engines, eg TDI,s)

How it was pre June 2023. Just not according to UK Main Dealerships.

2 hours ago, Cttime said:

Yes. 1.2 tsi with the whopping 66 kw. In any case I've had a look at the belt and it looks to me to be a good amount of life left in it but you can be the judge because I took some close ups.

I leave those that know better to comment on the belt but don't worry about the 66kW most of the time not much (very little) hp (kW) is needed. Big/bigger hp figures are often more about willy-waving leave that to others, as long as the car can haul it's heavy structure, electrics/electronics/wiring/motors/heater/gadgets, big wheels/tyres, passengers, luggage/loads along and uphill reasonably. Plus you don't have to wear branded sunglasses on a rainy or cloudy day to drive your car. 😁

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

How it was pre June 2023. Just not according to UK Main Dealerships.

Air filter 90000 kms is too much. Half of that have no sense..

Do you have that manual to share? I dont have that. Thanks

I do not have it to share.

You pay and get the info.

But the Skoda Schedule has been nonsense since they changed the Minor / Interim, Major to Oil & Inspection services and Extended Scope.

Check an Air Filter annually, or at Services. Just not as easy as the old days for many, even techs / fitters.

How many / few cars get the Roof Serviced or even told to.

Edited 13 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Take a lot of VWŠkoda "Service" and "Maintenance" as a minimum rather than best. Have a look at that old green list poster I put in a previous thread. The might as well change the air filter (and clean box and tubes) at the same time as the spark plugs as you have to take the filter box of and and those sprung hose clips are a PITA.

If you are keeping the car not too far in the future you might want to change the "lifetime" coolant (pressure tool or your nerve may be required), then if manual gearbox oil change (or partial anyway) car on a lean perhaps for that. And by now you are possibly on a newer battery or use of charger maintainer. Plenty of additional service (maintenance) work with VW products to keep you occupied rather than the belt perhaps.

Try this link if you want for VWŠkoda Fabia (2015-19) manuals. - https://cardiagn.com/skoda-fabia-mk3-2015-2019-2020-workshop-manuals-wiring-diagrams/

HTH.

This is after the Green one. Still total guff.

No mention VAQ diffs. DSG,s are not all at 40,000 miles, & 4 years not relevant. DQ200,s no Service, DQ381,s at 80,000. Or sooner obviously.

Cambelt changed. (Here in prices, book for 2 days with a 1.5 TSI ACT.)

My wife's car wasn't reported or evidence of some of the stuff listed in the "services" despite being done at the local VWŠkoda Dealership and paying those Dealership prices. And the car cleaning got progressively worse to the point of scratching the paintwork - no sorry I must be wrong those scratches must have been there before the cleaning, hush my mouth.