Whilst many drivers dislike Stop/Start and wish it to be permanently de-activated - this post is to those owners, who like myself, who have it on and attempt to work with it. I'm interested yo known if any other owners have noticed a change in the way S/S operates. Let me explain. When I got my 6 month old Karoq in April 2024 with a mileage of 1100 miles on the odometer, the S/S only switched the engine off when I had come to a complete stop, and during the summer months running A/C and doing mainly short journeys it generally didn't stop the engine unless I'd recently done a longer journey. I was quite happy with this. This mode of operation continued until late August this year and then it changed. The mileage is now 10,500 still predominately short journeys so no real change to the usage pattern.

What seems to be happening now are two distinctly different things. Firstly the S/S is switching the engine off virtually every time I come to a stop and secondly if I am slowing down to make a turn, braking very lightly at the point where I'm at walking pace the engine stops and the revs drop to zero, when I take my foot off the brake pedal to complete the turn the engine restarts instantly before I've even touched the throttle. Its this latter behaviour that I find odd and I wondered if any other 2.0 TSI owners had noticed this.

Can't help I'm afraid.

Get in car. Start car. Press:

Disable Start / Stop

Select Individual Driving Mode

Autohold

Drive away.

Have never used start / stop. Wish you could switch if off permanently and that Individual Driving Mode would stay as default until you decide to change it.

Still minor 'First World Problems' really for a fantastic car.

It sounds like one of the reasons I now religiously switch off S/S, not keen on engine shutting down while I’m slowing to a halt rather than once I’ve actually stopped. Plus I’m of an age, and with my prev vehicle choice not being known for reliability, where I automatically think “I’ve broken down” when the engine shuts down. 🤣

1 hour ago, DSL said:

Plus I’m of an age, and with my prev vehicle choice not being known for reliability, where I automatically think “I’ve broken down” when the engine shuts down. 🤣

I grew up driving the type of car that would cut out when slowing down, if heel and toeing wasn’t possible then pulling the choke out abit would generally keep it running. Often the choke would be pulled out again as a precaution approaching a junction. None of which works in DSG Karoq🤔

6 hours ago, thamestrader said:

Whilst many drivers dislike Stop/Start and wish it to be permanently de-activated - this post is to those owners, who like myself, who have it on and attempt to work with it. I'm interested yo known if any other owners have noticed a change in the way S/S operates. Let me explain. When I got my 6 month old Karoq in April 2024 with a mileage of 1100 miles on the odometer, the S/S only switched the engine off when I had come to a complete stop, and during the summer months running A/C and doing mainly short journeys it generally didn't stop the engine unless I'd recently done a longer journey. I was quite happy with this. This mode of operation continued until late August this year and then it changed. The mileage is now 10,500 still predominately short journeys so no real change to the usage pattern.

What seems to be happening now are two distinctly different things. Firstly the S/S is switching the engine off virtually every time I come to a stop and secondly if I am slowing down to make a turn, braking very lightly at the point where I'm at walking pace the engine stops and the revs drop to zero, when I take my foot off the brake pedal to complete the turn the engine restarts instantly before I've even touched the throttle. Its this latter behaviour that I find odd and I wondered if any other 2.0 TSI owners had noticed this.

While the engine should not cut out while the vehicle is still moving (above about 2MPH, I think), this does occasionally appear to be an issue with DSG gearboxes.

Not aware if there is a fix.

No issue here, only turns the engine off when stationary and brake hold has activated.

I may be wrong, but it does sound like a software issue, and a missing conditional argument in the code.

Did it change after a dealer update?

If not, I'd speak to the dealership as it is a change in expected behaviour. They may just say it's a known issue (pretty poor if so).

No issue here, only turns the engine off when stationary and brake hold has activated.

Same here , no problem and in fact I quite like it.

8 hours ago, Frizzbee30 said:

I may be wrong, but it does sound like a software issue, and a missing conditional argument in the code.

Did it change after a dealer update?

If not, I'd speak to the dealership as it is a change in expected behaviour. They may just say it's a known issue (pretty poor if so).

It had its first service in April 25, software update to fix the Kessy issue (which I'd not experienced) of locking the keys in the car . The change in behaviour only started a few weeks ago, so difficult to link to the update. My impression is that it does it mostly when its just me in the car, with a passenger it doesn't seem to do it but maybe i drive slightly differently? Its a sort of 'predicitve stop/start'.

I'll monitor for a few more weeks and then speak to the dealer.

I never disable mine - I actually don't mind saving a bit of fuel - and it rarely comes into use on short journeys. Longer journeys it will generally work, which I assume is something to do with the charge level of the battery?

I have experienced it turn off the engine as I coast very slowly to a halt. I can't say it bothers me - sometimes it's right on the money, other times I don't want it to turn off so I lightly tap the gas and it starts back up again.

35 minutes ago, joek666 said:

....other times I don't want it to turn off so I lightly tap the gas and it starts back up again.

....or tweak the steering wheel to restart.

tom

6 hours ago, Sanqhar said:

....or tweak the steering wheel to restart.

tom

Did not know that - will give it a try, thanks!

15 hours ago, Sanqhar said:

....or tweak the steering wheel to restart.

That doesnt seem to work on later (sometime in 2024 onwards) vehicles. Certainly doesnt on my Aug 2024 build!.

13 hours ago, NottsIan said:

That doesnt seem to work on later (sometime in 2024 onwards) vehicles. Certainly doesnt on my Aug 2024 build!.

I have a 25 Sportline 1.5 TSI DSG and you have to move the steering wheel further to restart the engine

Thanks , I'll give that a try. On my 21 SEL it only needed a very slight movement

13 hours ago, NottsIan said:

Thanks , I'll give that a try. On my 21 SEL it only needed a very slight movement

Same with my 23 plate sportline