Hi,

Anybody out there chipped their 130bhp TD VRs?

If so....

• How does it drive in comparison to OEM?
  
• What's fuel economy like?
  
• How is the power delivered through the rpm range?
  
• Does it remove the suttuer at 1,800 rpm?
  
• Any faults experienced since applying the ECU remap?
  

Cheers,

Fabby.

The revo map is very good,very smooth at low throttle openings ,and very fast when you want more ,most of power is low down but it does rev out alot further than stock although reving high is waisting the power.

Apart from not getting traction from a standing start it is neck and neck up to 100 with my new golf GTI.....until I switch on the GTI map then thats another story

A word of advice - Big brother does frequent this forum and it's not unheard of for them to make notes on what modifications owners have admitted to doing to their cars.

I don't think it will remove the stutter.

There are also numerous threads on various maps and other related information.

Use the search, it is your friend.

I liked it. But it was useless on the motorway, the clutch cant cope at the low revs...

Yeah, the clutch can't really cope with a revo remap if you drive it fairly hard. I had to change to an uprated Sachs clutch when my car was on 14000 miles as I was fed up of it slipping... If you don't mind factoring in the cost of a decent clutch, or driving within the clutches limits (boring!) then go for it! I'm well happy with my revo.

You don't need a stronger clutch.

If a generic Revo map cost

Yeah, but I'm commenting on the Revo remap as requested, the standard clutch really isn't up to the job when using a revo. TBH, a standard clutch isn't the best thing to use with any remapped ecu, but the custom map will be tuned to suit the car perfectly and provide longer lifespans for the stock parts.

Yeah, but I'm commenting on the Revo remap as requested, the standard clutch really isn't up to the job when using a revo. TBH, a standard clutch isn't the best thing to use with any remapped ecu, but the custom map will be tuned to suit the car perfectly and provide longer lifespans for the stock parts.

Yeah, point taken about generic maps. IMHO all generic remaps are a bit harsh low down. From what I have seen the Revo doesn't give you the best overall output either.

The REVO is a lower output which is designed to accomodate the clutch. The clutch should be fine at the sort of powr REVO quote for the PD130, it's generally the driver that's at fault. You need to know how to drive it without mashing the throttle from low down all the time.

*SMILE* wait a minute...

Getting a map is ok, isn't ok?

Revo is ok, isn't ok?

You do need a new clutch, you don't need a new clutch?

There are quite a few contradictory replies in this thread.

I'm not the kind of driver that drops the clutch in at the lights, not plants the power after each gear change. I like to enjoy the torque progressively.

So it sounds like a Revo map may be OK.

Cheers,

Fabby.

*SMILE* wait a minute...

Getting a map is ok, isn't ok?

Revo is ok, isn't ok?

You do need a new clutch, you don't need a new clutch?

There are quite a few contradictory replies in this thread.

I'm not the kind of driver that drops the clutch in at the lights, not plants the power after each gear change. I like to enjoy the torque progressively.

So it sounds like a Revo map may be OK.

Cheers,

Fabby.

How long is a piece of string? We can't make your mind up for you just give you the information to do so yourself.

Most generic maps can be harsh on the clutch, period. All maps are going to wear certain parts quicker, period. Once you have the extra on tap you WILL use it Do you need a new clutch? It depends on your car, driving style, what map you have and where you got it mapped.

If you like progressive torque then you might want get a custom map, because any generic map is either going to be short on power or a bit harsh. Is it worth the extra

I'm a bit clueless on this too!

So why do they create 'generic maps' that aren't good for the clutch then? Isn't there someone who knows the characteristics of the clutch and engine and can create one that is a compromise!

By 'custom map' is that custom to your specific car then? not just custom as in you choose what output you want?

A generic map is a standard map that a tuning company applies to all cars with the same engine. The map will vary between tuners, but it is not tweaker to suit each car.

A custom remap will cost more because it is tailer to your requirements, and the specific engine characteristics (no two engines are the same).

If you can afford it, then the custom remap will always provide better results. Generic maps are basically quick fixes - they will provide good performance improvements, but the power delivery will not be as smooth.

So why do they create 'generic maps' that aren't good for the clutch then?

Again, it all depends on the car and driver.

There is no silver bullet for this.

I think that is a fair conclusion then.

Many thanks all.

Cheers,

Fabby.

Mine's Revo'ed and I love it!

You can easily make the clutch slip by booting the car from very low revs, however you can just as easily avoid the clutch slip by being one gear lower!

Since Revo'ing, I'm still averaging 44 to 46mpg on "normal" useage and general driving....a bit of thrash, a bit of easy going. You can get considerably lower, but overall, that's the figures on the computer. The car has averaged 48.5mpg over a ten month period.

You do get quite a bit of black smoke, but this is really only noticeable on warm days.

I got the SPS so as to be able to switch between "normal" and "Performance". A word of warning....."Normal" is not that car's standard map, it is a Revo "approximation" and is still (in my case) quite a bit more pokey than standard. The dyno showed something like 150bhp in "Normal" and 176bhp "Performance".

To sum up.....I like my Revo and the car performs well.

It's a decision only you can make but you will find a whole lot of information here that will be peoples opinions, which of course, will differ.

I've read that loads of people say remaps make the car more driveable. In the Revo's case, it only applies when you want to drive it fast - allowing you to red line it in every gear without the power tailing off. Its not more driveable when you want to potter around or use the motorway economically.

- Thats only what I found with it, which may not be what others think!

This is why I got the SPS 1 in the end - best of both worlds When I wanted a blast it got turned on; any other time it was off.

How long is a piece of string? We can't make your mind up for you just give you the information to do so yourself.

Most generic maps can be harsh on the clutch, period. All maps are going to wear certain parts quicker, period. Once you have the extra on tap you WILL use it Do you need a new clutch? It depends on your car, driving style, what map you have and where you got it mapped.

If you like progressive torque then you might want get a custom map, because any generic map is either going to be short on power or a bit harsh. Is it worth the extra

Why not just go to a revo dealer and get them to put on the trial map?

You get it for a few hours and it gives you a taste of what its like (well for a few hours anyway)

Why not just go to a revo dealer and get them to put on the trial map?

You get it for a few hours and it gives you a taste of what its like (well for a few hours anyway)

Revo dont offer the timed trial on the TDI engines. However you may find a dealer with a "spare" remapped ECU he can pop on your car for you to try.

Other tuners can also flash the software and revert back to standard if your not 100% happy.

Surely one of the greatest pleasures of a diesel remap is nailing it from low revs and riding the torque? There's such a limited rev range that you get more if you start lower. On mine (custom mapped) the clutch seems to hang in but there can be a low pitched rumble at 1800 - 2200rpm (the dmf maybe?). Even so, it goes really well and you get a real push of acceleration without actually flooring so the likelihood of clutch slip is maybe less. With any modification you risk something failing as a consequence... In the case of my car, the tyres tend to protect the clutch - they slip first (in first, second and third anyway).

On mine (custom mapped) the clutch seems to hang in but there can be a low pitched rumble at 1800 - 2200rpm (the dmf maybe?).

Yep that will be the DMF, it's a sure fire way to knacker it.

Surely one of the greatest pleasures of a diesel remap is nailing it from low revs and riding the torque? There's such a limited rev range that you get more if you start lower. On mine (custom mapped) the clutch seems to hang in but there can be a low pitched rumble at 1800 - 2200rpm (the dmf maybe?). Even so, it goes really well and you get a real push of acceleration without actually flooring so the likelihood of clutch slip is maybe less. With any modification you risk something failing as a consequence... In the case of my car, the tyres tend to protect the clutch - they slip first (in first, second and third anyway).

You ill find things last alot longer if from 3rd gear upwards you only use alot of throttle after 2500 rpm. If its mapped, it will pull beyond 4, but I find changing just after 4k rpm is ideal.

Spins the wheels in third? You must have some pretty nasty tyres then