A high output 1,6 TDI with 130 - 160 bhp should be possible. VAG has a new 2,0 TDI unit with 204 bhp in development, so why not?

I hope VAG will let Skoda make a new Fabia vRS. I would definitely save for one!

olit - Norway.

VAG have a new 1.6 CR TDI on the way, and as far as I have heard Skoda will be building it. This could be one of the reasons for the delay in the new vRS.

Wow this one is running for a long time isn't it? Shows the depth of feeling at the lack of a replacement any time soon for this great little car. I'll probably run mine into the ground.

This is the first time I hae heard of a 1.6 CR TDI from Volkswagen. Would an engine that size really deliver the kind of performance that current VRS owners expect though? The only 1.6 diesel I know of is the Ford/PSA unit: smooth and very economical but it doesn't set the world alight. I have mentioned in my previous inputs on this matter the 1.4 Twincharge engine. I have not driven one but it has had rave reviews in the press and won Engine of the Year last year. One problem though is insurance. Mentioning to your insurance company that your car has both a turbo and a supercharger will have them rubbing their hands with glee. The Golf GT with this engine is something like group 17-18 and the same fate would happen to any new Fabia VRs with this engine. I hope they will stick to a good modern diesel and keep the car's unique selling point.

1.4 GT Sport TSI (170ps) 5d is a group 16.

I've gone from a group 9 Fabia vRS to a group 17 car and the increase wasn't that great, even more so when you factor in the increased cost of the car.

Fords 1.6TDCi lump has 108bhp in the Focus, but I'm sure abit more could be squeezed out of it. Also the new mk2 Fabia is lighter than the mk1, which should help abit as well.

glad i bought my 07 vrs when i did then not got to worry about it till 2010

MJ enjoy it is a fantastic little car. Blade I stand corrected!

Hi again!

My uncle got a Ford Focus 1,6 TDCI. Originally 110 hp, but he got it chipped and it is now 139 hp. A completely diffrent animal - according to him!

And as I said before - the latest 2,0 VAG diesel i development is predicted to be 204 hp! A 1,6 with this technology - well think for yourself. I think it will produce sufficient power and grunt- even for a Fabia vRS!

olit

oh i am........ im just gutted they havent decided about the next gen vrs.. i keep asking my local dealer and they say "no word/no confirmation"... although the octy vrs will still be available in its current state until 2010... looks like i may have to move

I quizzed my dealer on Monday. He suggested the 1.4 "twincharge" is the most likely car they'll bring out as a vRS - but I told him the insurance costs would rule it out for me - I estimated group 15 not the 16/17 being quoted above. After all my Subaru Impreza Turbo was group 17. I specifically went "down" to the diesel vRS because of its lowly group 9 rating.

The dealer also suggested the 2.0d was "too big" by which I took it to mean it was literally physically too big to fit in the new engine bay. Seems odd if that's the case.

The Fabia vRS accounted for 7/8% of their sales when it was available. They were very pessimistic about its replacement and I had the feeling they thought the Octavia vRS might not be replaced either when the Mark 3 comes out. They see Seat as being promoted as the VAG Sports brand with Skoda being downgraded to the "cheap" car end of the market. Very gloomy.

They also have concerns I think about the Fabia 2 in any case. I had one as a courtesy car and they were very interested in what I thought - I have the sense they wanted me to emphasise its bad points not its good points. I wasn't awfully impressed I have to say - but I was driving a three cylinder base model...

Geneva was the venue at which Czech automaker Skoda introduced its new Fabia hatchback. While the Fabia's nice and all, the real eye candy at the company's booth is clearly the Fabia-based S2000 concept. The name refers to the Super 2000 regulations the show car conforms to, and it serves as confirmation that Skoda is hard at work preparing a customer-ready Super 2000-spec racer for use in FIA Rally events. The enclosed press release is short on detail, confirming only that the car features a 2.0-liter engine (naturally), roll cage (obviously), four-wheel-drive (a racer-specific addition), and other S2K-compliant features. Sadly, no power output for the car's engine is given. We'll guess that the final product should dish out significantly more than 200 horsepower, since the other Super 2000 rally cars we've covered here at Autoblog-- the new Australian TRD Corolla team car and Peugeot's 207 -- produce 255 and 280 horsepower respectively.

Geneva was the venue at which Czech automaker Skoda introduced its new Fabia hatchback. While the Fabia's nice and all, the real eye candy at the company's booth is clearly the Fabia-based S2000 concept. The name refers to the Super 2000 regulations the show car conforms to, and it serves as confirmation that Skoda is hard at work preparing a customer-ready Super 2000-spec racer for use in FIA Rally events. The enclosed press release is short on detail, confirming only that the car features a 2.0-liter engine (naturally), roll cage (obviously), four-wheel-drive (a racer-specific addition), and other S2K-compliant features. Sadly, no power output for the car's engine is given. We'll guess that the final product should dish out significantly more than 200 horsepower, since the other Super 2000 rally cars we've covered here at Autoblog-- the new Australian TRD Corolla team car and Peugeot's 207 -- produce 255 and 280 horsepower respectively.

That's great for the rally boys but what about the road cars? I fear that Skoda is rapidly losing interest in the VRS brand. I have read on this forum that a guy has replaced his car with a Fiat Punto Sporting 130 JTD. This shows that Skoda are going to lose customers. I bought my Fabia VRS thanks to rave reviews in the motoring press who had them on long term test and could not believe what a good motoring proposition they are.

I quizzed my dealer on Monday. He suggested the 1.4 "twincharge" is the most likely car they'll bring out as a vRS - but I told him the insurance costs would rule it out for me - I estimated group 15 not the 16/17 being quoted above. After all my Subaru Impreza Turbo was group 17. I specifically went "down" to the diesel vRS because of its lowly group 9 rating.

The dealer also suggested the 2.0d was "too big" by which I took it to mean it was literally physically too big to fit in the new engine bay. Seems odd if that's the case.

The Fabia vRS accounted for 7/8% of their sales when it was available. They were very pessimistic about its replacement and I had the feeling they thought the Octavia vRS might not be replaced either when the Mark 3 comes out. They see Seat as being promoted as the VAG Sports brand with Skoda being downgraded to the "cheap" car end of the market. Very gloomy.

They also have concerns I think about the Fabia 2 in any case. I had one as a courtesy car and they were very interested in what I thought - I have the sense they wanted me to emphasise its bad points not its good points. I wasn't awfully impressed I have to say - but I was driving a three cylinder base model...

i think there will be allot of people who will go for a chipped 1.9tdi sport now its nearly here. its got everything you need bar the lower suspension, with which you can sort out with some eibach springs

as the the level 2 3 cylinder, if it was a 1.2htp then i think for such a small engine they are cracking fun. if its the tdi you had then 60 plus MPG cant be bad

i keep hearing it may have the 1.4twincharged motor in it,my money is on the 1.8tfsi,after all there is allready a polo on this platform with that engine in it.

i keep hearing it may have the 1.4twincharged motor in it,my money is on the 1.8tfsi,after all there is allready a polo on this platform with that engine in it.

Isn't the 1.8T in the Polo/Ibiza the old 1.8T found in the mk4 Golf and mk1 Octy so therefore not the new 1.8 TFSI?

With emission regs going the way they are my money is on a small (1.4/1.6) petrol/diesel turbo engine.

I quizzed my dealer on Monday. He suggested the 1.4 "twincharge" is the most likely car they'll bring out as a vRS - but I told him the insurance costs would rule it out for me - I estimated group 15 not the 16/17 being quoted above. After all my Subaru Impreza Turbo was group 17. I specifically went "down" to the diesel vRS because of its lowly group 9 rating.

The dealer also suggested the 2.0d was "too big" by which I took it to mean it was literally physically too big to fit in the new engine bay. Seems odd if that's the case.

The Fabia vRS accounted for 7/8% of their sales when it was available. They were very pessimistic about its replacement and I had the feeling they thought the Octavia vRS might not be replaced either when the Mark 3 comes out. They see Seat as being promoted as the VAG Sports brand with Skoda being downgraded to the "cheap" car end of the market. Very gloomy.

They also have concerns I think about the Fabia 2 in any case. I had one as a courtesy car and they were very interested in what I thought - I have the sense they wanted me to emphasise its bad points not its good points. I wasn't awfully impressed I have to say - but I was driving a three cylinder base model...

insurance doesnt worry me too much given my age and ncd... keep thinking about alternatives such as

corsa vxr (group 15 ins)

sporting punto (same engine/stats as existing vrs) but group 6 ins.

i was impressed with the interior of the new fabia, but the only way i can describe it was like driving a car made out of your duvet, all fluffy and bumpy.

otherwise its stepping up a gear to the

seat leon fr (if they still do it)

focus st2 (if they still do it)

scooby

astra vxr.. (hopefully htings wont get this bad!)

i keep hearing it may have the 1.4twincharged motor in it,my money is on the 1.8tfsi,after all there is allready a polo on this platform with that engine in it.

Unless I'm missing something here the Polo your referring to is the GTI/Cup model/s. Which would make it on the older PQ24 platform on which the Ibiza FR/Cupra also use a 1.8T. Not the newer 1.8TFSI which can be found in select Altea/OctaviaII/SupurbII/Passat...

The FabiaII is the 1st true PQ25 platform model to be released, with Ibiza/Polo/A1?A2 Models to follow all before 2011... Fingers crossed that the A1 changes the lot over to the new rear independent suspension. That would put these cars light years ahead of the competition! If that happens though I suppose they'd call it the PQ26 Platform.

Back to your suspicion about the 1.8TFSI being chosen for the next VRS stands a real good chance as it costs less to produce than the 1.4TSI. As much as I love this engine & all the talk that went on as this engine started winning awards it's likely going to die a quiet death that all over engineered products do...

dunno if this will help the discussion any, but here goes:

I was in Germany this weekend, picked up a copy of "Auto Bild" (their [better] version of Auto Express) which has an article in it about the new Polo, due in 2009.

AUTO BILD-Vorschau VW Polo - Der neue Polf - Erlk

ah - have just realised the same article (kind of) is also on the autoexpress website as of today. (though the german magazine was published on the 7th)

Volkswagen Polo | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express

that looks like a ford focus? or is it my eyes?

Interesting article on the new Polo.

I suppose the Fabia will get the new 1.2TSI and 1.6 CR-TDIs engines when they are available, and that the 1.2TSI would replace the 1.6 petrol as it has the same output.

The 1.6TDIs should be good as well, torquier, quieter and more refined than the 1.4TDI I would presume.

I have got in touch with Skoda U.K by email to see if I could get them to give me a yes, no or a maybe. All they stated was that the decision has come direct from the factory and they don't have a clue what is happening either.

I guess we will all have to wait and see. If the demand is there, if enough people ask for the car to be produced then the first rule of economics should prevail. I suggest that if people want to see this version of the car made they should email Skoda U.K. If the distributor has an idea of demand, they can lobby the manufacturer harder.:OBetter still get your dealers to start nagging as I bet they won't want to lose you.

I have got in touch with Skoda U.K by email to see if I could get them to give me a yes, no or a maybe. All they stated was that the decision has come direct from the factory and they don't have a clue what is happening either.

I guess we will all have to wait and see. If the demand is there, if enough people ask for the car to be produced then the first rule of economics should prevail. I suggest that if people want to see this version of the car made they should email Skoda U.K. If the distributor has an idea of demand, they can lobby the manufacturer harder.:OBetter still get your dealers to start nagging as I bet they won't want to lose you.

Maybe we could start a petition?

Seeing as the top of the range diesel (for under

I guess we will all have to wait and see. If the demand is there, if enough people ask for the car to be produced then the first rule of economics should prevail.

But if the feedback they're getting is that there isn't demand for it (only 7/8% of Fabia sales are for the vRS) and it wasn't a big hit in most of Europe, maybe they're looking at a Sport trim model to fill the gap?

Who knows

Chris

Every 1 seems to be happy with the look and interior options but i

was thinking apart from the obvious 200bhp, springs and breaks. What is the 1.9tdi missing?

The 1.9 TDI is missing:

1. An exciting sound

2. Quietness

3. Sophistication

4. A major diet