I would start saving up for a dual mass flywheel, clutch, drive shafts with CV joints, and possibly a gearbox. If you have only been driving for a year, remember that 6 points will get you banned with a retest needed.

You need better clutch control, softer tyres with reduced pressures.

I don't give a smelly fart what you do, just don't crash.

Thanks.

A Fabia vRS owner.

Simple answer... don't do burnouts!

I find them totally pointless and achieve nothing... I can do one in my 1.3 felly (probably. Not actually tried it and not gonna...!) so it really isn't impressive to be able to do one!

You have a really nice car there and i'm sure you're not stupid so don't make yourself look like a complete chav doing this sort of thing... you could spend the money you will save on buying new tyres on something useful.

All IMHO!!

phil

Can anyone give me some advice? Since owning my vRS I cant help but get into traffic light races and some childish moments when filling up late at night at Sainsbury's. When turning the traction control off I always find when I put my foot down the front of the car jumps up and down, bumping. Its a horrible noise and also I presume its doing damage to the suspension and chasie?

Is there any mod I can do that will help keep the car firm when doing wheel spins? eg. arb or strut brace?

Its a must for Le Mans next year to prevent getting waterrr gunned through the window.

Cheers,

Josh

Hiya Josh

Im just saying this as Brisk mate now ok so please take this with an open mind yeah.

I know your 18 mate and weve all been in your shoes first fast car and you wanna be able to show your skills off to impress your mates and sexy little blondes that have a cracking pair of **** (Oh to be 18 again)

Anyway back on track now your far better off doing your advance motorist test (IAM) than doing burn outs at Asda etc (Speaking from experience)

Especially when you go pick a bird up at her house and her mum n dad think hmmm nice car hope he can drive safe and not like a boy racer then all youve got to say your an advanced motorist. Straight away your in the good books and on course for a ****

Further to add if you wanna show that you can race take it on a track day (Even invite the Mrs) to show her how good you can drive. Trust me mate women (NOT GIRLS) like a a guy with a mature outlook on the bigger picture.

Last thing at thei cheapest a decent tyre is around £65 for standard 16"s on a Fabia VRS so bare that in mind.

I will be honest and say I do like to get my foot down and get going but only when its safe to do so but that comes with experience.

To answer your question though if your trying to wheel spin this car its not the best car to do it in, however if you look after it and cherish it the birds will see a 18 year old lad with a nice car and think yeah he can get in my nickers anytime as hes got a mature outlook (which shows in how you drive mate)

Remember I'm only saying this cos I've been in your shoes mate and care.

The learn to drive posts are valid. Behaviour like that is just silly. And then to try and justify it by saying you did it in a supermarket car park? It's private land (not belonging to you) so you have no right to behave like that. Traffic light races?!? I hope you get pulled over and sorted out for behaving so stupidly. I don't care how harsh that sounds, but maybe that's what needed to stop you being a danger to the rest of us.

Unfortunately, no one ever learns until thery are involved in a crash, be it in your car driven by you or in someone else's car driven by someone else. I had a pretty bad one In a friends Peugeot 205, I was in the back and he was driving like a **** (at the time it didn't seem that bad, just a night out in the car with a mate). He lost control and we rolled it 3 times on a country lane... I can tell you, when I got back into my car that night i must have stayed below 40 for the entire trip... and certainly wasn't doing burnouts. Every time i put my foot down and make progress all i can think about are my final thoughts as the car was rolling, I actually thought that was it, I don't want to sound silly but i actually thought I was going to die... needless to say that keeps me driving cautiously.

On the other side of things, even if you don't crash, surely the thought of losing your licence and not being able to drive at all makes you slow down? I'm sorry but if you say that this type of thing doesn't scare you into driving sensibly and continue to drive like a **** you are as bad ad the chavs that tear round in stolen Novas on a friday night.

Lecture over,

-Duggie.

Well said !

can some of you grow up a bit and stop getting all shirty please, if a man wants to do the odd wheel spin in a large open area when no one else is about whats he going to break other than himself or his car?

doing or wanting to wheel spins has nothing to do with learning to drive what so ever, i bet all you moaning mary's that are calling him a chav or a child think that it takes great skill to drift and love wathcing the likes of russ swift yet that nothing but skidding about and wheel spinning round corners

Don't have a problem with wheel spins etc but burnouts are just stooopid!

I mean just sitting there while your wheel is spinning pointlessly watching your £££ go up in smoke...

I think I got a bit misunderstood. I do around 20k miles a year for work. I drive like a OAP because I get paid fule per mile. I am in no way a chav and dont drive in a dangerous manner. Yes I do put my foot down on B roads when its safe to do so, no traffic and dry.

The point of the thread was could anyone tell me how to stiffen up the front end to stop the wheels bouncing.

can some of you grow up a bit and stop getting all shirty please, if a man wants to do the odd wheel spin in a large open area when no one else is about whats he going to break other than himself or his car?

doing or wanting to wheel spins has nothing to do with learning to drive what so ever, i bet all you moaning mary's that are calling him a chav or a child think that it takes great skill to drift and love wathcing the likes of russ swift yet that nothing but skidding about and wheel spinning round corners

However Russ Swift is payed alot of money to do that.

He doesnt need to pay for tyres, cars and he does it in the open at shows etc.

How can you compre him to a chav? :confused:

And it does take great skills to drift.

This thread is going nowhere.

He has his answers so im going to shut up with this topic.

i never said it doesn't take skilllllzz to drift, i know it does as trying to get my works transit to drift in the snow or rain is pretty hard at times

If your wheels are bouncing off of the road, then I suggest that there is something slightly odd going on with your driving. Bouncing is not an everyday situation I face when driving my car quickly. Stop doing burnouts, because if I were to find you in a supermarket carpark on a Sunday evening, I would be sure to ask you what you were doing in there, and to have a look at your car.

Drive smoothly and responsibly and this 'bouncing' should not occur!

There is a time and a place for everything.

The point of the thread was could anyone tell me how to stiffen up the front end to stop the wheels bouncing.

It won't stop the wheels bouncing, the reason (i think) the wheels bounce is because there is so much weight over the front end (think capri rear wheel drive and weighs less than a crisp packet over the driven wheels), and you are putting too much power down in one chunk causing intermittent slip, ie skipping or bouncing. less poewer to start and get the wheels to spin on the spot then feed more power in should see you going through tyres faster than you can pay for them:thumbup:

This will not get you anywhere in the TL GP though, you are much better learning your car and finding the threshold at which the ASR cuts in, and staying just bellow it.

i don't think its a weight issue myself as my 950cc fiesta would wheel hop like map if the wheels span.

i don't think its a weight issue myself as my 950cc fiesta would wheel hop like map if the wheels span.

I still think weight over the wheels is a factor, and dumping the clutch at too higher revs when the wheels are pulling the car rather than pushing it.

but RWD cars will still hop but its called axle tramp instead, i think.

Weight must be a factor, higher the weight the greater the power needed to cause the wheels to break traction. Searching the net (which is very sad ) there seems to be a consensus that the greater the torque applied the more likely axle tramp will take place, so like I said I guess the more power you try to use to spin the wheels he more likely the hopping will take place, possibly, maybe :confused:

Simple answer... don't do burnouts!

I find them totally pointless and achieve nothing... I can do one in my 1.3 felly.

Ha ha.

I sometimes drive the works van (Iveco LWB 2.5hdi or something).

I was just messing around on the airfield at work, and managed to do a good 20-30 second burnout and get it smoking a gooden.

Probably not good for transmition tho!

Anyway, back to the subject...

Your wheels will also bounce if your tracking is out.

HTH

Your wheels will also bounce if your tracking is out.

HTH

Tyres out of round, suspension knackered, clutch/DMF (expensive ) on the way out as well IF this is happening during normal driving rather than wheel spins or pulling away.

I think I got a bit misunderstood. I do around 20k miles a year for work. I drive like a OAP because I get paid fule per mile. I am in no way a chav and dont drive in a dangerous manner. Yes I do put my foot down on B roads when its safe to do so, no traffic and dry.

The point of the thread was could anyone tell me how to stiffen up the front end to stop the wheels bouncing.

If we are to believe the first paragraph as you hope we will then what would be the point in "stiffening up the front end to stop the wheels bouncing?" This is certainly not something many "OAP" drivers are after.

I think basically as so many other people have already said, stop driving like an idiot before you loose your licence and job by the sounds of it!!

The quickest way to get the car to drive off is to be fairly smooth. Once mapped, but even before, 1st is frankly just about useless, I just let the clutch come up and blip the throttle, then drop in 2nd and give it a bit more beans, then 3rd for the full monty :P

I had ESP on my Fabia vRS, and I absolutely detested the ASR as it was too eager to kick in (and cut power). Once the Quaife was on, things got a lot easier.

The Fabia Estate I drive currently has a PD100, and although I can get wheelspin in 1st if I am a plank, it generally appears to be pretty easy to avoid.

Use good tyres, I have Eibach springs & Koni FSDampers, and that combo, with the Jabba rear ARB, has helped make the car handle a lot better.

The power delivery without a remap is very peaked, and in the first couple of gears in the wet you've gotta be lucky to be able to put it down when it hits the torque surge. A smooth remap would give you more power and a wider power band too, and frankly improves driveability (and fun ) no end

I also found 17" wheels appeared to make it a bit better but that could be just me thinking it, I cant remember when I last had the 16" ones on as the tyres were too expensive for me on that size

Be smooth, get the grip, then use the torque.

And although I drive like an OAP some days, I also have days where I cruise at some pace, but as safely as I can, I'm not an advanced driver but went on a course after my accident and I sincerely believe it improved my ability to stay calm and generally become a better driver.

If I had time I would go for advanced driving, but I dont

And as Bengie says, when the conditions are 'safe' I reckon most people who have a car like that will have a bit of fun, in whatever way they choose :P

can some of you grow up a bit and stop getting all shirty please, if a man wants to do the odd wheel spin in a large open area when no one else is about whats he going to break other than himself or his car?

The Law. If a police car is about you will be stopped, and if you find an unfriendly policeman it could be seen as dangerous driving/driving without due care. My dad, a magistrate has confirmed this for me.

-Duggie.

The Law. If a police car is about you will be stopped, and if you find an unfriendly policeman it could be seen as dangerous driving/driving without due care. My dad, a magistrate has confirmed this for me. -Duggie.

Yes I believe that even privately owned land where the general public have regular access is also deemed to be a "public place" - so the police will charge for any naughty driving in even an empty supermarket car park - remember most supermarkets have ATMs and even when the supermarket is shut the public can still legitimately be driving/walking into that car park!

Driver training training and track days is where you can explore your and your car's limit - if you are serious - and why not! Playing this stuff in petrol stations and carparks is really only for brainless wa*ks - check up youtube for car park rolls etc - it does happen and it can write off the car - back to buses then - no good - no street cred! And as said - lost job - even less chance of happy days!