i prefer to try things myself and make my own mind up rather than listen to people who often dont know what there talking about, you obviously sit on the fence and cant think for yourself so let others do it for you, spoon anyone??

and if googling things is tons better and what with its faults then why did you still buy??

also why do i need to spend another penny, ive paid and its warrantied or did google not tell you about that???

as for what petrol i use, grow up, been there done that to death and i made that decision myself i didnt google it

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by the mad monk

You re confused again... I'm not the one moaning around that my car uses oil or because is better with 98ron, thats you. Me i knew how everything would be before i buy and it turned out that way, so im very happy. The vrs certainly is not for everyone and certainly not for you i reckon . Better luck next time then, eventually yoy ll be able to choose a car that suits you.

you cant read, where did i complain? ive said before i love the car and thats because i made the decision to buy after trying it not via google like you

if i didnt like the car id just go buy another coz i can afford to, i dont need to read war and peace before i buy something, i try and if i like i buy simplex stop trying to make out ive done anything wrong or i dont like something just because i can make my own decisions unlike you, again where did you put that spoon?

Hmmm....

My first 1.4 TFSI engined car was a early 2010 Scirocco and used less than a litre in the first 18.5k.

Second is the vRS - now used 2 litres in 9000 miles.

On the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) service, they gave me a litre of oil to go with the car (odd I thought)...

The vRS CAME with a litre of oil in a nice little velcro bag with wiping cloths for the dipstick.

So they use oil - 0W30 is like water so it'll seep through the slightest gap easier than the 10W40 engines used 5 years ago, but thinner to reduce internal drag - hence lower FUEL consumption. Swings and roundabouts and 0W30 is proving a little tricky to find on garage forecourts (need to buy mine with a fuel card), so it might well have some 5W30 thrown in it having emptied the remains of the 2nd litre of 0W30 last week.

If mine was using the "upto" figure listed in the manual, i'd be getting the low oil message once a week and that WOULD be annoying (they'd find the keys slammed on the service managers desk with a few choice words). As it is, i've had it 3 times to date (and filled it once by my own choice), so about once a month. Annoying? A little. Job stopper? Not in my case.

When you get through spark plugs like some of you do litres of oil, then it gets very annoying as you can't exactly change them with parts from the 24hr garage at the bottom of the road....

Castrol Edge 0w-40....meets VAG spec?...might reduce oil consumption?

Just a suggestion.

Apart from technical issues it looks like expectations management issues are present as well.

I like my research but always evaluate what I read. My current ride, venerable Lupo, has more torque per tonne than Fabia vRS therefore I am not expecting vRS to provide me a "feeling of better acceleration" than Lupo really. When I made my decision to buy this particular car I looked at things like Cors vRX Nurburgring Edition, BMW 1 series, Polo, Auris Hybrid and Kia Rio3. Very different cars as you can see. It took me good few months to arrive at my choice of Fabia vRS for a multitude of reasons. This car is best compromise for the best price on the market. there are cars looking better, costing less (for the same class), WAAAY more economical, better equipment etc, etc... Fabia vRS is not Outstanding at anything except price but Very Good or Excellent on everything and that is good enough for me .

If it sues more oil than The Book says then it goes back. If not then I will bear with it.

Castrol Edge 0w-40....meets VAG spec?...might reduce oil consumption?

Just a suggestion.

you cant read, where did i complain? ive said before i love the car and thats because i made the decision to buy after trying it not via google like you

if i didnt like the car id just go buy another coz i can afford to, i dont need to read war and peace before i buy something, i try and if i like i buy simplex stop trying to make out ive done anything wrong or i dont like something just because i can make my own decisions unlike you, again where did you put that spoon?

Buying a car from Google Search alone? Way to go! That's even dumbest than buying a car without spending as little as 5 minutes to look it up... One does not exclude the other but I guess you can't be doing two things at the same time so I sympathise. Me I had 2 test drives in the one I finally bought but no need aparently to go out and shout "hey, I did a test drive! I did a test drive!" in the silly way you do here... Do you want a medal for doing the obvious or what??? Can't believe I am still adressing to you after all this nonsense you've come up with...

And back on topic, anybody that has even read an up-to-date magazine, or even watched a car-show should have by now heard that 1.4 tsi's are oil-thirsty. By how much? It's up to you to look further, and decide if that will be acceptable for you or if it will be a reason to reject the car. That you can't do in 1 or 2 or even 3 test-drives. There's where some search pays up. Of course being technophobic doesn't help much nowdays.

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by newbie69

see again you have to get personal, get a grip you internet troll

you started by saying

, is that you should know you are expected to have some consumption before you buy, it's stated in the Manual and it's all out there on the internet.

when i said not everyone reads the internet to buy things, some people just try them out themselves and make their own minds up rather than listen to others who only post when its something bad, i doubt theres hardly ANYONE who rtfm before buying and when i ordered in early 2011 there wasnt any real problems anyhow

go suck on your spoon google boy and grow up, me ill make my own mind up and youll just listen to others, great stuff if it works for you

i had nearly 8 years of TROUBLE and COST free skoda ownership so why did i need to listen to others when buying a new one when my own experience of skoda was so positive??

if you want to keep slagging off then do it via a pm otherwise grow up, not every one needs others to make their minds up, some of us make our own choices in life, nappy change anyone???

oh and i think its already be proven that its just a small minority of cars suffering, hardly conclusive stuff when buying is it theres more complaints about holes in socks than oil useage

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by the mad monk

see again you have to get personal, get a grip you internet troll

you started by saying

when i said not everyone reads the internet to buy things, some people just try them out themselves and make their own minds up rather than listen to others who only post when its something bad, i doubt theres hardly ANYONE who rtfm before buying and when i ordered in early 2011 there wasnt any real problems anyhow

go suck on your spoon google boy and grow up, me ill make my own mind up and youll just listen to others, great stuff if it works for you

i had nearly 8 years of TROUBLE and COST free skoda ownership so why did i need to listen to others when buying a new one when my own experience of skoda was so positive??

if you want to keep slagging off then do it via a pm otherwise grow up, not every one needs others to make their minds up, some of us make our own choices in life, nappy change anyone???

oh and i think its already be proven that its just a small minority of cars suffering, hardly conclusive stuff when buying is it theres more complaints about holes in socks than oil useage

Oh, now I'm the troll.... I seem to remember otherwise from old threads but it's ok... If you're short on arguments, ultimatelly that could work!

So, it's the "i know everything I need to know" syndrome... All you've been telling is "why did I need to listen to others? I had a skoda for 8 years so I should know better!". Right... As if your old Skoda would have ANYTHING to do with the 1.4 tsi... Go ahead and complain for the different fuel consumption then, it was not the same in your old Skoda so why the heck did it change in the vRS??? Doesn't make sense eh? For what you know literally all Skoda's should behave the same no matter what hides under the bonnet, "Umhhh, yes, why not? It's not a Skoda?" Well yes but this is a totally different engine here, "What do I care? (puts record on) I had a Skoda, it was ok, why this is different?"

At that point the mind of any commonly-sensed human being explodes.... He who survives, continues to repeat the same cr@p, and abolishes the infidels who dare ask a question or open a website to look up any further...! I have to admit I didn't know Obscurantism was still popular in the 21 century...

What does all this tosh above have to do with oil burning issues? If you have a car with an issue then publish what it is in this thread, the data will help me battle SUK to sort it out.

If you see the need to squabble go and start a squabbling thread somewhere else.

Thanks

did you find all that off google :clap: oh what a clever boy you are, your parents will be so proud

im surprised you ever buy anything what with all the scary things on google, do you believe in the Bogey man too

and im sorry if its o/t but i dont believe its anyone's fault on here if they have oil issues and didn't rtfm first, its skoda's issue and they will sort it sooner or later, if they took some peoples stance on it they'd wash their hands of it

and google (your fave site) the definition of an internet troll and youll find you fit the bill, im merely sticking up for people when you say its their own fault

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by the mad monk

did you find all that off google :clap: oh what a clever boy you are, your parents will be so proud

im surprised you ever buy anything what with all the scary things on google, do you believe in the Bogey man too

and im sorry if its o/t but i dont believe its anyone's fault on here if they have oil issues and didn't rtfm first, its skoda's issue and they will sort it sooner or later, if they took some peoples stance on it they'd wash their hands of it

and google (your fave site) the definition of an internet troll and youll find you fit the bill, im merely sticking up for people when you say its their own fault

Is that aimed at anyone in particular?

not you, the person who was above me when i typed it, you must type quicker than me and squeezed in between us

not you, the person who was above me when i typed it, you must type quicker than me and squeezed in between us

Oh Ok.

What does all this tosh above have to do with oil burning issues? If you have a car with an issue then publish what it is in this thread, the data will help me battle SUK to sort it out.

If you see the need to squabble go and start a squabbling thread somewhere else.

Thanks

I agree. if you read again, you'll see that I replied to Grumber51 that 500ml/1000 KM are considered normal and I doubt Skoda would justify any repair for figures around that. There was no off-topic there. Then out of nowhere there came the vigilante and I had to reply to one nonsense after the other. My bad really and I won't continue it but the thread deviated from it's course as soon as that post was made. Read again the very first sentence (If you have some time to waste that is): "thats wrong, why should anyone who buys a modern car expect it to use some oil?" As if modern engines in general were the debate here...

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by newbie69

just because a packet of biscuits says may contain nuts doesnt mean they will just like skoda cover their a$$'s by saying it might use oil doesnt mean its fine if it does. The mere fact skoda are looking at what they call a FIX means they accept its not normal

as for vigilante, you started by saying its peoples own fault, google troll once more, youll see what i mean

im sorry for believing that modern engines should be better than those of old, my bad i guess for being so trusting in advances in technology

i really do need to spend my life on google each time i want to buy somethng, now let me read up on those crisps before i dive in

.... google troll ...

i really do need to spend my life on google...

Thanks for another meaningful reply!

Me a troll I wish, as for going elsewhere ? I've owned more skodas than you've had hot dinners, my issue with the vrs fabia and its only the vrs is the dsg unit and oil consumption, as for its performance its a cracker no doubt " have I driven one " YES was I impressed YES , is it a wolf in sheeps clothing "HELL YEAH" would I buy one ? Yes probably a second hand one with no issues, would the wife let e have one No ! Why because I would be driving like a kok , as for being hatefull towards it from beginning ? Well the ones that have spoilt the purchase for the customers ( there are a few), as for the chariot I drive its fantastic but I paid much more than I would have for a fabia, which I bought 2 last year and no issues with them at all , just the fekin dealers this one here is crap, will I purchase another skoda? Yes probably manual or auto ? Auto hopefully , I'm a skoda fanatic always have been but the vrs has let to many people down IMO people who have put there faith in skoda and have been disappointed and will never return with there cash, the vrs is a wonderful car no doubt but the oil issue cannot be simply brushed under the carpet by vag, he engine in its present form is being dropped? Why ! , its to expensive and clearly isn't fit for purpose, the new engine will be without the supercharger which may or may not be the issue, the Internet is a wealth of info some good some bad, however if you purchase a vehicle knowing it uses oil ,sometimes alarmingly so well I think your bumps need seeing too, as I have said previous these cars now have a reputation for oil usage when selling on the open market the price offered to you may be a reflection on this issue, hopefully your oil burning hot hatches will be fine but those vehicle which aren't I feel sorry for, the ones that seem happy with polluting the environment simply enjoy the thrilling drive

Have a nice day

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by seboni121

Oh and good deed for the day, castrol edge 5w/40 fully synthetic 1 litre bargain now at HOME BARGAINS £6.99

Actually there was an amusing (and shocking for me!) confession some time ago when I was repeatedly asking how come you post so much cr@p about the vRS if you've never had one? At least us, we're sharing owner experiences. And the reply I got was: "Well, I loved the vRS but the missus wouldn't let me have one no matter what..."

Now, do you still wonder where the trolling power comes from?? Nothing worse than having your wife decide what car you'll be driving imho. Many bad consequences. Trolling is the least of them I'd guess...

Castrol Edge 0w-40....meets VAG spec?...might reduce oil consumption?

Just a suggestion.

Don't suggest anything , lynch mob may arrive suggest not fact then

A 1.4 non supercharged turbo already exists. I heard the new Fabia VRs will have a 1.6 turbo motor under the bonnet.

As for polluting the environment the amount of oil that goes through my 1.4 is probably collected in the cat, did you say your car was diesel? Is that not a 100% oil burner?

A 1.4 non supercharged turbo already exists. I heard the new Fabia VRs will have a 1.6 turbo motor under the bonnet.

As for polluting the environment the amount of oil that goes through my 1.4 is probably collected in the cat, did you say your car was diesel? Is that not a 100% oil burner?

Dpf I'm pretty sure some owners keep on saying soot all over the back end, oil? And destroying the cat ? Yeah diesel doesn't burn oil tho, yeah 1.6 turbo from next year or next I think, so hopefully this will be the end of the saga, just thinking tho what's the old 1.4 drivers going to do ? Sell up and get the 1.6 ? Probably if they haven't lost to much eh why does it get so personal here, I've an opinion and vent it I will ! It's the law that it really , I'm no longer allowed to post here apparently cos I have an opinion ? Well such is life.

Arnt diesels the modern ones less polluting than petrol ? Not sure tho

Edited 8 October, 201213 yr by seboni121

@seboni121

Interesting with your statement about 1.4TSi being phased out. The first I read about it was I think early 2011. I also think the point of view that the engine is too expensive and too complicated was around since its release. Since then new car models across VAG were released with that engine in different trims of tune and it just won Engine of the Year Award (for the Fourth Time!) in 1.0-1.4l category and came second overall, just after 999cc Ford turbo’ed 3-pot. Again, not bad for a failed engine, too complicated and too expensive etc, ad nauseam…

The insider knowledge I have is that they have had a bad batch in 2009 and since then those engines seem to be being bled into sales stream gradually. They did not withdraw those units from sales and did not recall them. Very naughty of VAG and they did it consciously to save money as assumed that it will be cheaper (better press?) to do warranty repairs/exchange.

This a conspiracy theory of course, fully fictional and not backed up by any hard evidence - I like Sci-Fi .

Could you link to any press articles speculating about 1.4TSi twincharged unit being phased out?

It is not a bite for yet another fresh trolling flame war BTW!

A 1.4 non supercharged turbo already exists. I heard the new Fabia VRs will have a 1.6 turbo motor under the bonnet.

Very likely,should make a decent car,but may not have the reponse under 2000 revs that the current unit does.

As for polluting the environment the amount of oil that goes through my 1.4 is probably collected in the cat, did you say your car was diesel? Is that not a 100% oil burner?

I queried the pollution element...would a heavy oil using vRS still record it's official emissions figures?...and still pass its MOT when 3 years old?

Diesel cars are designed to burn oil to make them go,petrols are not.

NOTE: For the avoidance of doubt the above comments are made in a friendly non-controversial,non-know-it-all manner and are merely for the pupose of friendly discussion.

On a different note,my vRs is confirmed as a week 42 build.I have taken the precaution of opting for a 5 year warranty and I look forward to 50k miles and 5 years of happy motoring.