Was on the back of a mates ZZR earlier, roughly 70 local miles around the A470 done,

I have had over 50 bikes !

This is my latest toy,

Wow! Proper bike porn!

Went out for a play yesterday on the viffer! Despite plenty of dawdling 25mph drivers, it was brill.

Brill to be able to get past em instead of sat behind em anyway!

I don't think we are meant to share links to the freedom section, so I will quote my post instead, from the 'what makes you happy' thread.

 

 

 

What would make me happier would be a section for 'Briski Bikers', we have a lot of bikers and there have been various bike related threads in off topic springing up and fairly well attended. Wouldn't take anything away from Skoda side of things as these are secondary vehicles/hobbies which many members have, or have had in the past. We even have threads in relation to learning to ride which offers a good information source and help for anyone thinking of taking it up. The 'Briski Bikers Come Forward' thread has been going years now and is more or less it's own section within off topic, but you have to hunt for it at times which doesn't make it obvious to anyone new. Would be great to have a section to spread out the information rather than 50 bike topics mashed into a massively long thread.

 

 

Is it just me, or would that be appealing to others?

I don't think we are meant to share links to the freedom section, so I will quote my post instead, from the 'what makes you happy' thread.

Is it just me, or would that be appealing to others?

Great idea

Anything to do with bikes is a brill idea to me aha.

Tbh. This is the only thread I've even bothered to read on the entire forum the last few months

Anything to do with bikes is a brill idea to me aha.

Tbh. This is the only thread I've even bothered to read on the entire forum the last few months

 

Was just a thought as this thread has been running for years now and there is a ton of good information in it, but you'd be hard pressed to find it sifting through 133 pages and thousands of posts. Be nice to have a wee corner to expand on it and have it a bit more organised. 

Could name it the bike shed :P

Was just a thought as this thread has been running for years now and there is a ton of good information in it, but you'd be hard pressed to find it sifting through 133 pages and thousands of posts. Be nice to have a wee corner to expand on it and have it a bit more organised.

Yeah i agree mate.

I've tried to read through it before and lost hope on about page 10 haha

Yeah i agree mate.

I've tried to read through it before and lost hope on about page 10 haha

I did read the whole thing at one stage, too much to remember

 

I would put the back brake there like it is on a push bike   I don't have much feeling in the right lower leg, so it's more of a 'I am telling it to press down' and then looking/listening for the brake rather than the normal feel. Bloody weird! 

I was out today after a hail storm it was spot on bright dry afternoon with damp patches fading away. Frigging bike failed to start again at the pumps (asda this time). Battery might be duff on one or more cells, oxford oximiser 900 isn't showing any issue with it when plugged in though...) How ruddy embarrassing   Dr Google tells me that loads of ZX-6R's of the same era suffer from this issue and start fine when cold but when hot don't like it at all! ...... I checked terminals on battery and put them back on then it fired, but it had dropped 30DegC ish in temp in that time. She had just stopped for fuel having done 100+ miles.

 

 

 

Good news on my battery dramas. I had been trying to decide on if I should go with a gel one, lithium or lead acid. I went for lithium and my local bike place had some on their site £10+ cheaper than anything I saw online (£90) so I thought sod it and called to check stock. They said they have plenty in and asked had I seen it on their ebay store? So I checked there Ebay store and they have Lithium Ion ones on there (£54.99 delivered) BONUS £50 to me in the store without having to ask. It's SO light it's unreal! You'd think it was going to float away! 

 

The first time in.... a long time I can fire it up cold with no choke or throttle fiddling

 

 

Should anyone want one their ebay store link is below, it's a small old school bike shop and they are great honest bikers to deal with. Prices always seem to be very competitive!

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/moto-tempo-worldwide

got no bikes only ones I had were all for the fields,the place I lived when I was young was an old pit open dirt tracks and fields lots of people came up on allsorts of bikes lol,,going back into the 80s as iam a 80s kid,,,heres a few I had some made up of all parts its was fun back in the days

 

cz 175
cb 200
rd 250 and 400
gt 350
dtr 125
90 club
z 200
ty 100
xt 250
Fs1e  50
 honda cb250 super dream x 2
Suzuki GT500

Certainly was a lovely day, Monday, but I made the mistake of going out with the thermal liners in my kit.

Suffice to say I was a little bit smelly when I got home!

Nice to get on the bike and get some wind in my.... Oh, wait, can't say that any more :(

Here is the video of the incident the other day. I have been in agony all day yesterday and still today with neck, back and shoulder pain as a result. It was fairly violent all be it for a split second :( It's not the best show of driving or riding, but it is what it is. So want to get out on the bike today (and yesterday, but it's not an option for another day or 2 :( )

 

It's long as it's hard to illustrate hat happened just with raw footage due to the short amount of time that covers it, mainly illustrating the speed the driver was carrying. He was by no means going to stop before that line(and didn't), had he been in a different vehicle without such an effective braking system that the Rav4 has, it would have been pure carnage! 

 

Bloody hell FUB!

I reckon you were very lucky to get away with that.

I can't imagine the outcome if that scenario faced a novice rider!

As an experienced rider you kind of have a clue about what is likely to happen. It might only be a fraction of a second advantage, but it still counts.

Oh, go buy a lottery ticket

Bloody hell FUB!

I reckon you were very lucky to get away with that.

I can't imagine the outcome if that scenario faced a novice rider!

As an experienced rider you kind of have a clue about what is likely to happen. It might only be a fraction of a second advantage, but it still counts.

Oh, go buy a lottery ticket

 

I am still going over it all as I am not entirely happy with it. I like to be able to look back over footage for things I am not happy with to address what could/should have been done differently. This one is just a bit of a nightmare on that front. Overall I am happy with my processing of what presented itself along with road positioning and speed actively chosen. The car I am happy was driven poorly in that as I assessed would not stop before the give way lines dues to his profile of approach. But as I am the one in control of the bike, the loss of said control when it was of paramount importance, was a failure. Which then goes to riding for the conditions with regard to speed etc etc etc and starts running in circles. I am happy with the speed it was a hell of a lot lower than any other rider I met on the roads that day would have reduced to and I did so with following traffic, having to slow them too in a graduated fashion nice and early and clearly. That is the bit I am trying to cover, but struggling with. Road surface change is more of a reference point in video, it shouldn't have such an adverse affect on the traction, but there is a slight step in it at the point I cross it which will act as a bump and thus change weight on wheel, just as it's beginning to cum under increased pressure of braking. There is loose debris to the sides of road clearly shown in video and across the junction, a stray pebble or two could also have been a cause. Mechanically the brakes are tip top so no partial seizing causing a lunge, I had just commenced ridding after a good 40 min break and was not uncomfortable and hands'fingers totally awake and alive no stiffness or fatigue etc. I didn't just snatch the brake lever it was FAST, but progressive with it and I hadn't got more than 50% of what should have been available before it locked. I personally would only go to about 85% of max braking force so to not risk compromising the ability to lift off some to swerve if the option presented itself depending how it all unfolded. Googling around that Rav4 has some big claims to braking distance abilities and fancy wizardry stuff, so I think there was too much left to the Gods for my liking with it all. I would much rather a nice clean cut, 'oh crap I did this or that really badly' and have more to take away from it.... 

 

This was approx 3 miles later crapy friggin roads! The entire road was brand new less than a year ago, but they obviously did a cracking job....... One of about 40 parts of the road which this has happened, I really really would hate to be behind a new rider here! 

At least you managed to ponce. :-)

I was just about to ask you if there was anything that you think you could have done differently/better.  You seem to have chewed it to bits and no doubt viewed the footage several times to help your memory.  Could you have seen him earlier or did you react a split second late do you think?  It isn't possible to see on the video really.  Sometimes we are distracted by other stuff around us and it really does only take a split second to make a massive difference.

 

I have this thing about the amount of riders who use the 'sorry mate didn't see you' excuse when a motorist has pulled out of a junction and they have collided.  In truth if the motorist could have seen the motorcyclist then the opposite is true and the motorcyclist should have been able to see the other vehicle, probably did but failed to react in time.  We have to be switched on to survive.

 

Now I am not saying that you are one of these as from the look of it on the video you reacted immediately.  For me you are doing the right thing by having a real good look at what went wrong and ensuring that any lesson to be learned is.  That is all you can do I think.

 

Regards Chris

The only improvement I would have suggested was to have slowed further and moved towards the centre of the road after passing the oncoming traffic so as to increase visibility of the junction/give anyone arriving at the junction more chance of setting you however...

I doubt I'd have done that myself.

I was just about to ask you if there was anything that you think you could have done differently/better.  You seem to have chewed it to bits and no doubt viewed the footage several times to help your memory.  Could you have seen him earlier or did you react a split second late do you think?  It isn't possible to see on the video really.  Sometimes we are distracted by other stuff around us and it really does only take a split second to make a massive difference.

 

I have this thing about the amount of riders who use the 'sorry mate didn't see you' excuse when a motorist has pulled out of a junction and they have collided.  In truth if the motorist could have seen the motorcyclist then the opposite is true and the motorcyclist should have been able to see the other vehicle, probably did but failed to react in time.  We have to be switched on to survive.

 

Now I am not saying that you are one of these as from the look of it on the video you reacted immediately.  For me you are doing the right thing by having a real good look at what went wrong and ensuring that any lesson to be learned is.  That is all you can do I think.

 

Regards Chris

The entire event from first frame the car comes into view of the camera (which technically is angled to see it a tiny tiny fraction before my eye line) and regaining control (prior to him even coming to a complete stop) was 1.202 seconds. Thinking time alone according to the highway code as a super alert road user, I would only have just started to extend my fingers to reach for the brake lever at this point. I was aware of the junctions existence but not immediately at the start of the footage, which is the reason why I was able to react so quickly to the cars presence was due to that fact and instinctively covering the brake lever, as it was the next possible hazard that instantly became reality.  (I am familiar with the road from beyond that junction but coming from that direction it was the first time and I was reading the road as it presented itself)

 

The only improvement I would have suggested was to have slowed further and moved towards the centre of the road after passing the oncoming traffic so as to increase visibility of the junction/give anyone arriving at the junction more chance of setting you however...

I doubt I'd have done that myself.

 

The big thing on that is knowing there is a junction there in the first place, but ironically if you look carefully at the footage, having cleared the 2 oncoming vehicles and having become aware of it, I was already moving back to the right for that very reason, prior to the car first coming into view had moved over around 20-25cm over. The hedge/trees line on left blocks the drivers view of everything (and another row up the road he was on) to my side of junction and even I being higher cannot see over it for any forewarning of approaching vehicles (again if aware of the junctions existence). The other issue with that, is that the junction is not signed in advance in any way shape or form and isn't overly obvious and there are other points which require focus and planning. It would be easier to observe on approach without the oncoming vehicles to account for, but even at that the car was not going to stop prior to the give way line. My position closer to the nearside than it would have been without their presence and earlier as such couldn't hinder the car drivers ability to see me with his road being lower it would actually have, if my white lid was slightly higher than the hedge line made me easier to see. The blokes initial facial expression said it all for me and that he then blanked me as I passed and turned my head directly at him. 

 

The stupid thing with the junction not being signed, is that it is a road which links 2 main roads up saving the need to drive a further 7 miles around and through a town but has a wooden bridge on it with a weight restriction. Anyone turning into it from that direction in a lorry (who would be able to see it much earlier) would not be presented with any forewarning until they are at the foot of the narrow bridge with 3/4 of a mile to reverse back and only place to turn being that blind junction. Joining the same road from the other end of the bridge it's well signed with such warning in place. 

I am still going over it all as I am not entirely happy with it. I like to be able to look back over footage for things I am not happy with to address what could/should have been done differently. This one is just a bit of a nightmare on that front. Overall I am happy with my processing of what presented itself along with road positioning and speed actively chosen. The car I am happy was driven poorly in that as I assessed would not stop before the give way lines dues to his profile of approach. But as I am the one in control of the bike, the loss of said control when it was of paramount importance, was a failure. Which then goes to riding for the conditions with regard to speed etc etc etc and starts running in circles. I am happy with the speed it was a hell of a lot lower than any other rider I met on the roads that day would have reduced to and I did so with following traffic, having to slow them too in a graduated fashion nice and early and clearly. That is the bit I am trying to cover, but struggling with. Road surface change is more of a reference point in video, it shouldn't have such an adverse affect on the traction, but there is a slight step in it at the point I cross it which will act as a bump and thus change weight on wheel, just as it's beginning to cum under increased pressure of braking. There is loose debris to the sides of road clearly shown in video and across the junction, a stray pebble or two could also have been a cause. Mechanically the brakes are tip top so no partial seizing causing a lunge, I had just commenced ridding after a good 40 min break and was not uncomfortable and hands'fingers totally awake and alive no stiffness or fatigue etc. I didn't just snatch the brake lever it was FAST, but progressive with it and I hadn't got more than 50% of what should have been available before it locked. I personally would only go to about 85% of max braking force so to not risk compromising the ability to lift off some to swerve if the option presented itself depending how it all unfolded. Googling around that Rav4 has some big claims to braking distance abilities and fancy wizardry stuff, so I think there was too much left to the Gods for my liking with it all. I would much rather a nice clean cut, 'oh crap I did this or that really badly' and have more to take away from it....

This was approx 3 miles later crapy friggin roads! The entire road was brand new less than a year ago, but they obviously did a cracking job....... One of about 40 parts of the road which this has happened, I really really would hate to be behind a new rider here!

As much as you don't want to letting go of the brake saved you there

We can always look back in hindsight and torment ourselves with I should have done this, I should have done that, but at the end of the day you reacted very quickly, stayed on and managed to avoid what could have been a very nasty incident.

Even if there was a loss of control, undoubtedly caused in part by the road surface change, I suggest that in the circumstances you did as much as you could in the time available.

Stop beating yourself up, forget it and move on. Learning from it is fine but there is no point in dwelling on a past event that you cannot change.

It's an OCD thing, I like to understand things fully. Swung by the place this evening in the car (was only 50 or 60 miles out of my way), the surface of the road is shocking when you see it clearly standing there and it's one of the better parts all in. Plenty of debris about, big chunks of white lines broken off and that join in the road has it's tar or bitumen whatever it is across it in blobs. Looks like I may have gripped on some which was warm and soft. This is normally a bigger concern on the more recently 'dressed' roads where the crap has seeped to the surface and you end up riding on patches of molten bitumen being flung everywhere and not a stable surface, down right dangerous. Still can't be certain though, just a plausible theory after a closer look. 

 

In better news I am not as sore any more and by the looks of it, when I awaken tomorrow Might be time to test out that new lithium battery Also as of the 6th April I no longer am required to display an MOT disc, so that will be unbolted from the frame too 

 

In not as good news, I need to MOT the bike next month so need to try and find an appointment. Not looking forward to this new rolling road crap they seem to think I am going to do for them during it  :peek:

It's an OCD thing, I like to understand things fully. Swung by the place this evening in the car (was only 50 or 60 miles out of my way), the surface of the road is shocking when you see it clearly standing there and it's one of the better parts all in. Plenty of debris about, big chunks of white lines broken off and that join in the road has it's tar or bitumen whatever it is across it in blobs. Looks like I may have gripped on some which was warm and soft. This is normally a bigger concern on the more recently 'dressed' roads where the crap has seeped to the surface and you end up riding on patches of molten bitumen being flung everywhere and not a stable surface, down right dangerous. Still can't be certain though, just a plausible theory after a closer look.

In better news I am not as sore any more and by the looks of it, when I awaken tomorrow Might be time to test out that new lithium battery Also as of the 6th April I no longer am required to display an MOT disc, so that will be unbolted from the frame too

In not as good news, I need to MOT the bike next month so need to try and find an appointment. Not looking forward to this new rolling road crap they seem to think I am going to do for them during it :peek:

Your Mots are crazy there, I agree with making things safe but bloody hell!!!!

Honestly Fubar **** happens when on bikes if you dwell on it too long it'll sap your enjoyment and make you a more tense and nervous rider which will make you a worse rider! The main thing is you reacted correctly (to the car and the skid) and you stayed shiny side up!

I can fondly remember the time a carried too much speed into a RAB and the. Saw the car entering too late, I did what you did the bar smashed into te stop (breaking it off) and I went over the drop kerb and over the grass on the RAB but stayed upright (which was a mirracle) I dealt with it there and then by stopping my bike and repeatedly punching a tree whilst calling myself a ****, I just try to remember it now and again to keep myself in check.

As above, no point in beating yourself up over something that's happened. learn from it and use the experience in a positive way would be my way of dealing with it. The drivers in NI seem to be dodgy from the number of clips you post in the dashcam thread so have you considered some advanced training as a way of improving your chances. Being vunerable is part of the risk of being a biker I'm afraid, all you can do is try and limit the chances of it being you that gets knocked off because of someone else's actions.