Erm the power outputs of the engines are completely different so again an invalid comparison on petrol v diesel in your pointless tirade

 

 

Cannot get any more relevant, especially in the light of plenty of people claiming that Diesel version is as fast, and faster under "in gear " acceleration, than the petrol engined one. The whole point is to understand this is simply not true. vRS with Diesel engine, where much better, much more tuneable,much faster and ligher petrol unit is not only available but also cheaper is simply a misunderstanding and not in keeping with the "vRS spirit" IMHO.

 

Why the hell are you still banging on about diesel vs petrol. Ive already told you i have both and they are both relevant your obviously not even thinking about getting an octavia Yet insist on draging the topic away from what most of us are trying to find out about the new version so we can either buy one or avoid it and get something else that more suits our requirements etc. (Just having the same spec as the last one with tiny improvements in all areas would be enough for me im just making sure they haven't made and horendous omittions to the UK spec.

 

P.S Im normally for free speach and against heavy moderation in an open forum but you clearly can't moderate yourself and can't tell when everyone is fed up of your RANDOM opinions on the subject. Please on keep topic!!!!! Not everyone wants a tarted up shopping cart.

 

I am sorry, I missed the memo where it says that you are the one to make a ruling what is relevant and what is not and you "told me" something I need to listen LOL Can't handle the heat do not come into the kitchen, simples. If you want to find something out about the new O3 vRS you are in a wrong place pal, try manufacturer's websites and motoring press. This is a discussion forum where facts are discussed, opinions exchanged, points argued - a concept clearly but sadly escapes you. Asd a matter of fact I was one of the first people on briskie who test drove new O3 Saloon when it was made available in UK. I gave her a good, thorough test drive. Despite having only 1.6 oil chugger under the bonnet the car was rather good, especially in sound attenuation and interior quality departments. As far as the chassis, driveabilty and being "real drivers car" unless vRS gets seriously different suspension treatment the car I drove had so much understeer it was scary - even lowly 1.6 diesel pushed the handling to absolute limits and well beyond. As I drove it I'd dread to think how it would be like to drive it with 220bhp and 350Nm under the bonnet! As for buying one I will be buying either Octy3 Estate 1.6 diesel or Superb Estate Diesel, depending on the price.

As for the shopping carts, you seem to own two of them

Cannot get any more relevant, especially in the light of plenty of people claiming that Diesel version is as fast, and faster under "in gear " acceleration, than the petrol engined one. The whole point is to understand this is simply not true. vRS with Diesel engine, where much better, much more tuneable,much faster and ligher petrol unit is not only available but also cheaper is simply a misunderstanding and not in keeping with the "vRS spirit" IMHO.

 

 

 

 

 

errr,,,

The vRS in Petrol is a couple of grand dearer here than the diesel so your argument is worthless here.

errr,,,

The vRS in Petrol is a couple of grand dearer here than the diesel so your argument is worthless here.

I was going by this

http://www.skoda-aut...a_RS_cennik.pdf

from a post few pages earleir, didn't check UK prices I must admit so apologies.

 

EDIT: Just called Skoda, They do not have prices for O3 vRS but I was told Diesel version will be more expensive than Petrol

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No, no way, Diesel IS OBVIOUSLY faster :rofl:

AND 0-60 times do not matter anyways, not a good measure of how fast the car is, something... errrr.... else surely is, like torque figure and .... there must be something   -

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I am sure the above will not convince all still...

Why the hell are you taking it off topic again?! Start a new thread specifically about your 'issue'. If people are interested, they'll add their comments.

 

@Kenny - the new e-diff is exceptionally good on the Golf and if they did offer it on the Octy - i'd be speccing it.  It apparently banishes understeer almost entirely! Way ahead of anything before in terms of electronic control - then again what do you expect from the Porsche man who was in charge of its implementation!

 

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti

Why the hell are you taking it off topic again?! Start a new thread specifically about your 'issue'. If people are interested, they'll add their comments.

 

 

What on Earth is off topic in what I write?!? It is purely about new Octavia 3, comparing Diesel engine with Petrol engine in vRS, again, waht is off topic here?

is the e-diff any good?

 

Depends how you look at it and how do you want to use your car. For normal road use you will not see any difference between e-diff and regular one. For track use e-diff proves to be too slow an If I could I'd be having it off at all times.

What on Earth is off topic in what I write?!? It is purely about new Octavia 3, comparing Diesel engine with Petrol engine in vRS, again, waht is off topic here?

 

Yes, it has relevance to this thread as the vRS comes in either engine.  But this thread has become more about the specs of the new vRS and all that...  NOT the merits of other people's choices in terms of is a diesel car best or a petrol one.  So by all means we can discuss the petrol engine in the vRS and even that vs the petrol.  But the discussion about why the one is better than the other is a very emotive personal thing and best left for a dedicated thread.  (Which I suspect you will already find plenty of on Briskoda).  So it is not what you write per se, but HOW you come across when writing it in this instance.     Preaching never goes down well.  Especially if more than half your congregation owns a vehicle that runs on your devil-juice of choice...

What on Earth is off topic in what I write?!? It is purely about new Octavia 3, comparing Diesel engine with Petrol engine in vRS, again, waht is off topic here?

We are talking about different aspects of the new VRS - its not a debate about petrol v's diesel irrelevant as to how you try to tie it in here!

Yes, it has relevance to this thread as the vRS comes in either engine.  But this thread has become more about the specs of the new vRS and all that...  NOT the merits of other people's choices in terms of is a diesel car best or a petrol one.  So by all means we can discuss the petrol engine in the vRS and even that vs the petrol.  But the discussion about why the one is better than the other is a very emotive personal thing and best left for a dedicated thread.  (Which I suspect you will already find plenty of on Briskoda).  So it is not what you write per se, but HOW you come across when writing it in this instance.     Preaching never goes down well.  Especially if more than half your congregation owns a vehicle that runs on your devil-juice of choice...

 

 

Fair enough, point taken

 

So, back on topic, vRS spec - is vRS O3 suspension going to be different from a regular O3 one? Not just lowered, which might help with dynamic weight transfer, but in general?

We are talking about different aspects of the new VRS - its not a debate about petrol v's diesel irrelevant as to how you try to tie it in here!

Fair enough, again, point take - still think for vRS the petrol is the only way

Fair enough, point taken

 

So, back on topic, vRS spec - is vRS O3 suspension going to be different from a regular O3 one? Not just lowered, which might help with dynamic weight transfer, but in general?

Based on the fact that every previous vRS model (and GTI, RS and Cupra) version has had a unique damper and spring combination - id say that was a foregone conclusion.

Depends how you look at it and how do you want to use your car. For normal road use you will not see any difference between e-diff and regular one. For track use e-diff proves to be too slow an If I could I'd be having it off at all times.

So would I, but the missus keeps saying no

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, off topic again - I'll get my coat

The e-diff from the GTI (the proper one, not the XDS) is pretty awesome as it's an electronically controlled mechanical unit. I don't know where Jabozuma gathered that it's no good on track. GTI PP goes 8s faster on the Nurburgring compared to the base GTI, which kinda disproves that assertion. I'm guessing you're confusing it with the XDS maybe?

 

If there's anything I would miss from the GTI PP is definitely the e-diff, I would even consider retrofitting it.

The e-diff from the GTI (the proper one, not the XDS) is pretty awesome as it's an electronically controlled mechanical unit. I don't know where Jabozuma gathered that it's no good on track. GTI PP goes 8s faster on the Nurburgring compared to the base GTI, which kinda disproves that assertion. I'm guessing you're confusing it with the XDS maybe?

 

If there's anything I would miss from the GTI PP is definitely the e-diff, I would even consider retrofitting it.

Yes, everyone one of the decent magazines have agreed, its exceptional and gets better the faster you go!

Why the hell are you taking it off topic again?! Start a new thread specifically about your 'issue'. If people are interested, they'll add their comments.

 

@Kenny - the new e-diff is exceptionally good on the Golf and if they did offer it on the Octy - i'd be speccing it.  It apparently banishes understeer almost entirely! Way ahead of anything before in terms of electronic control - then again what do you expect from the Porsche man who was in charge of its implementation!

 

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-gti

Not just any Porsche man - the genius behind the GT3!

The e-diff from the GTI (the proper one, not the XDS) is pretty awesome as it's an electronically controlled mechanical unit. I don't know where Jabozuma gathered that it's no good on track. GTI PP goes 8s faster on the Nurburgring compared to the base GTI, which kinda disproves that assertion. I'm guessing you're confusing it with the XDS maybe?

If there's anything I would miss from the GTI PP is definitely the e-diff, I would even consider retrofitting it.

I think I am confusing it . Thanks.

I thought we were talking exactly about Octavia III vRS Diesel and Petrol versions pros and cons.

This is not news bulleting but a discussion forum .

 

......Don't take it personally.....)

I don't! I just enjoy a good debate. Petrol or diesel, whatever takes your fancy I'm absolutely sure the new vRS will be a fine car, no doubt about it.

I think its absolutely fair to say neither the petrol or diesel is better than the other, they are just different.

The petrol is fun, definitely quicker but as we all know with TSi's you use the power and your pocket feels it...my old Fabia was supposed to do 45mpg and only returned 32 in the 11k miles I ran it....the Octavia probably wont be a great deal different.

The diesel can be termed "effective" bit no frills in some respects buy they are deceptively quick and undeniably a damn sight more frugal than a petrol regardless of how its been driven.

Ultimately Id prefer a petrol one and when the time comes i'd be tempted to get a TSi, but right now I reckon my CR is saving me at least 1 -1.5k/years worth of spend on my company fuel card which cant be grumbled about; was a struggle getting the fabia to do much more than 300 miles on a tank; Octavia does 500 with ease...it soon adds up.

Everyone wants something slightly different; I love the fact the vRS can be had with a frugal diesel engine and that apart from the rev counter you cant tell them apart by looking but appreciate there are people that wouldnt have a sporty diesel car but nice were given that choice.

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Its just the spoiler that lets it down (on the hatch i mean i wouldnt even consider the Estate)

Hey, at least we all get the option, so everyone can get the right VRS for them.

 

I think that the estate with the hatch's wheels would fit me fine and look quite smart.

Agreed - I've always preferred the way estates look, irrelevant of their practical advantages. White with the hatch alloys is exactly what I've been thinking about too!

Funny.....I generally prefer the estate and i'd love DSG again.......but Im starting to get drawn towards a white TSi manual hatch with black Geminis.

Big thing that put me off a manual MK2 was the lack of a MFSW....dont think a car of this type should be without this and wasnt going to to the trouble of retrofitting.

The MK3 has it as standard....I also no longer have a dog so roofline not such a big deal......also by shunning the combi and DSG box it'll save nigh on 2.5k on the price of the car i'd have thought. Throw amundsen and canton on and be happy days!

I sat today in an O3 with a Bolero. Must say it looks much cheaper than the one in O2. It has smaller display and that piano black just doesn't feel right. Also those buttons stand out. And look at that gap between buttons and the screen.  :wonder:

 

That is a cack stereo it looks worse than my amundson + in the blackline and my original TFSI seams to have the largest screen in the MFD2

why are they getting smaller?