What performance mods are there for the 1.4 16v 100bhp?

[AaronMountford1990]

Just to correct the thread OP a lot of the later cars are in fact more like 150hp standard. Just to set you straight given you had the pespective of the car being underpowered.

I've driven a mkII 1.4 16v and driven in one. Having had the great pleasure of buying a vRS from new I can confirm they are very different beasts.

 

To be honest deliberately underrating the strengths of the vRS in favour of trying to make the 1.4 16v even as good as the vRS (as standard, BLT at least anyway) is a complete fail IMO

It is in no way making a 1.4 16v into a vrs thats ridiculous - i dont like the VRS and wanted options to make mine more responsive without a major overhaul.

[AaronMountford1990]

Your either a keyboard warrior looking for a argument or have never drove one/know what your talking about tbh. Even by today's standard it's still good power, a mondeo st tdci is a 2.2 and makes 155bhp and the blt engine is roughly the same power. It's the torque that makes these so good not how much bhp you've got when your down the pub talking to your mates. If you were to get your 1.4 upto 130bhp it would still lose in a race as it would still have hardly any torque compared to a vrs. Perhaps it's the green eyed monster posting your comments?

Green eyed monster? as i said i dont like the VRS - I'm inclined to buy a 1.9 205 GTI over a VRS any day! Its not a matter of jealousy or what not I merely asked the question, and yeah the torque compared to the 1.4 are planets away from each other.

 

I dont really want to get rid of my 1.4 16v hence asking the question - everyone is moving onto bigger and better cars but i like mine (all be it ill have a 205 gti at some point for summer runs!) and wanted to see if theres anything to spruce it without it becomming more at home with a burberry cap lol

[tommccabevRS]

Green eyed monster? as i said i dont like the VRS - I'm inclined to buy a 1.9 205 GTI over a VRS any day! Its not a matter of jealousy or what not I merely asked the question, and yeah the torque compared to the 1.4 are planets away from each other.

I dont really want to get rid of my 1.4 16v hence asking the question - everyone is moving onto bigger and better cars but i like mine (all be it ill have a 205 gti at some point for summer runs!) and wanted to see if theres anything to spruce it without it becomming more at home with a burberry cap lol

although a 205 is probably a lot more fun to drive, it still won't be as quick as a vRS lol. Old cars just have nothing whatsoever on newer engines.

Back in the day if you had something like an escort RS turbo you had the fastest car on the block, nowadays even a remapped diesel putting out about 160 bhp will leave them for dead.

My reply to your first question, without spending a lot of money or an overhaul as you said, there is no way to get a decent gain out of your car I'm sorry to say

[Kyle_vrs]

Green eyed monster? as i said i dont like the VRS - I'm inclined to buy a 1.9 205 GTI over a VRS any day! Its not a matter of jealousy or what not I merely asked the question, and yeah the torque compared to the 1.4 are planets away from each other.

I dont really want to get rid of my 1.4 16v hence asking the question - everyone is moving onto bigger and better cars but i like mine (all be it ill have a 205 gti at some point for summer runs!) and wanted to see if theres anything to spruce it without it becomming more at home with a burberry cap lol

So in which way is the vrs underpowered? As already said there's probably no other diesel with similar size engine that is as good so bit of a pointless comment with nothing to back it up. I've had plenty of modified cars including a rs turbo, mondeo st200, focus st etc and I am still amazed at how well these pull. I was in the motor trade for 10 years and drove hundreds of cars and there's not a lot that can touch these vag diesels from the same time

[sepulchrave]

TROLLSTREAK!

 

Way to go Aaron, fetching popcorn now 

 

You're lucky they even let you post here on the 'Fabia VRS Forums', now should I get  a pink EGR delete kit or a blue one? 

[joe_vrs_tdi]

TROLLSTREAK!

 

Way to go Aaron, fetching popcorn now 

 

You're lucky they even let you post here on the 'Fabia VRS Forums', now should I get  a pink EGR delete kit or a blue one? 

Well egr deletes dont come in colours sooooo.

Now stop posting on our vrs forum god damn it.

[ajs_vrs]

The thing is TDI and PD engines at the time were excellent and TDI technology back in the day when it was introduced was a major advancement for diesel engines ahead of its time in some respect. The TDI engine in the fabia is still a good engine today, for the power, economy and reliability but its been only in recent years its been trumped, the new VAG diesel engines of similar capacity have had their share of lemons.

 

Is it underpowered, well thats dependent on the budget VAG had lets be honest they had loads of PD130 lumps and a economic thing to do was naturally put them in the mk1 Fabia VRS.

 

Let be honest most of own the Fabia VRS mk1 for the above reasons (power, economy, running costs), what else comes close for the money - not a lot really, for what's a reasonably handsome looking car (open to opinion ).

 

I'm willing to bet if you can get hold of second hand bits and know people with a welder that basic bolt's could be made and the car fitted with a mappable ECU for around 1500 then you could see 20BHP - depends if its worth £1500. 

[AaronMountford1990]

blue! and it's under powered in the sense that stock it only pushes 130 brake, regardless of torque it's a small amount from such a large engine.

hahah I think I've upset the vrs fans :-P

[Breezy_Pete]

Has anyone suggested an electric supercharger yet? Or one of those gizmos that electrolyses water on the fly to supply supplementary hydrogen/oxygen fuel?  I think the OP is in the target demographic, no? 

[Kyle_vrs]

blue! and it's under powered in the sense that stock it only pushes 130 brake, regardless of torque it's a small amount from such a large engine.

hahah I think I've upset the vrs fans :-P

Not upset me in the slightest I just thought it was a stupid comment and you confirmed it by saying about it only being 130bhp ignoring the torque. I suppose you think something like a type r is the dogs dangly's because it's got 200bhp but next to nothing torque. Since you only want to brag about bhp figures down the pub the best thing you can do is go to a generous rolling road and see if the tester can get you about 120bhp out of yours then you're going to be the kiddy when you tell people about that pmsl

[Guest BigJase88]

And a diesel 1.9 can't produce as much bhp as a 1.9 petrol!

Its quite simple!

Maybe you need to go back to school?

What were you expexting 100bhp a litre?

[Dann2707]

I don't think the 1.9 PD performance are under powered at all? The peugeot 1.9's make 90bhp for the D-turbo and 110bhp for the Hdi?

 

For an 8v too. 

 

What other 1.9's beat it? The vauxhalls push out 150bhp standard but are they 16v?

 

So many questions there haha

[Guest BigJase88]

Simple bolt on turbo and supporting mods your looking at 220bhp

Then if you have more cash the limits are quite crazy!

Darkside are running 500bhp in an arosa!

Dont think your piddly 1.4! Will make that! 170bhp max!!

[bowen]

I'm taking the Diesel engine out of mine and putting a 1.4 16v in.

[Alex_fabia]

I'm taking the Diesel engine out of mine and putting a 1.4 16v in.

Lol, I think we should all do the same!

[Alex_fabia]

What kind of performance mods are there available for the 1.4 16v 100bhp engine?

I understand a lot of you may say go to the VRS however i arent to taken on a 1.9 with 130bhp.

Easy 15bhp!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251291511645

[joe_vrs_tdi]

One guy spent a good few grand at ABT before and it only got 130bhp. Any tuning is a lose of money in some eyes but if you want to spend a few grand making it the same bhp as a standard diesel go for it as its your car.

P.s. torque will be way under and torque is over taking punchy power at the end of the day.

[Kyle_vrs]

One guy spent a good few grand at ABT before and it only got 130bhp. Any tuning is a lose of money in some eyes but if you want to spend a few grand making it the same bhp as a standard diesel go for it as its your car.

P.s. torque will be way under and torque is over taking punchy power at the end of the day.

Exactly what I was saying bhp isn't the be all and end all

[inventory-photo]

It is in no way making a 1.4 16v into a vrs thats ridiculous - i dont like the VRS and wanted options to make mine more responsive without a major overhaul.

 

 

 As I understand it, the best and cheapest way to get what you want would be to take all the spare seats/carpets/spare wheel/parcel shelf/aircon out and leave them at home.

[AaronMountford1990]

oh dear I don't think you lot like negative views on the vrs haha tough! it's my opinion u don't like it don't read it :-) I'm an electrical engineer not a mec so I aren't a PhD boff on all things torque and bhp, so carry on trollin ladies you'll have to try harder than that to wind ME up :-)

[Kyle_vrs]

oh dear I don't think you lot like negative views on the vrs haha tough! it's my opinion u don't like it don't read it :-) I'm an electrical engineer not a mec so I aren't a PhD boff on all things torque and bhp, so carry on trollin ladies you'll have to try harder than that to wind ME up :-)

First of all it's not a negative view your statement doesn't even make sense and secondly its blatantly obvious you don't have a PhD or even a basic knowledge of bhp and torque etc in fact it's about the same level as my Mrs saying that Ferrari is rubbish cos it's blue

[Iann-]

First of all it's not a negative view your statement doesn't even make sense and secondly its blatantly obvious you don't have a PhD or even a basic knowledge of bhp and torque etc in fact it's about the same level as my Mrs saying that Ferrari is rubbish cos it's blue

 

It's a well known fact that any Ferrari that isn't red isn't a real Ferrari, just a Fiat with a fancy frock on, honest...

It's also a well known fact that the vRS is in fact not the fastest Fabia ever produced. That title goes to the 2.0 litre mustang slaying beast.

 

Anyway, carry on lads. 

[AaronMountford1990]

well done Kyle for repeating my last statement...I may not specialise in mechanical automation but I can read geez and it really does make sense you know providing you can read which it looks like you struggle with..mods delete this thread I think it's left the building!

[Guest BigJase88]

You can lock your own thread!

Im also an electrical engineer but as im born in 88 i must have a phd in wiping my ass too

[AaronMountford1990]

that's nice to know however are you autistic?