My contract clause. 'Replacement vehicle (mechanical defect only)

A replacement vehicle of similar type if the Vehicle is unfit for use due to mechanical defect but not due to accident damage. The replacement vehicle will be provided 48 hours after you tell us that the Vehicle is unfit until the Vehicle is again fit for use.'

 

That only refers to a courtesy car- refer to last sentence  The replacement vehicle will be provided........until the (original) car is again fit for use 

I'm usually quite restrained on these kind of threads, probably the last person to pull the 'reject' card. But not this one, I'd be rejecting this today whilst trying to keep relations as solid as possible with the dealer.

That only refers to a courtesy car- refer to last sentence  The replacement vehicle will be provided........until the (original) car is again fit for use 

...which will most likely be a very long time..

 

I'm with the others; the reject card is probably worth playing now.  You've been very accommodating to Skoda so far - if it was me (and like Dodgy, I'm normally very placid on such things and have been in the past), I'd be rejecting it.

So - here we are again. 500 miles after the DPF was replaced and now still only about 750 miles since new.

 

First indication that a problem was afoot was the elevated rev's at idle (1000rpm) and very thirsty fuel consumption. I think it was trying a regen then 40 miles later the DPF light came on and back to Square 1.

 

As I was 120 miles from home, I returned home.  On return home the engine block light illuminated and then also the glow plug light started flashing. So now I have DPF warning and stop/start malfunction and ! on dash.  5 mins later it dropped power and I limped home the remaining 40 miles at about 45mph and max of 3000rpm.

 

Calling the dealer tomorrow as this is simply not acceptable on a Brand New Octavia Gen 3. Anyone else getting issues like this on their 2.0 tdi?

 

    :@   

I had exactly the same combination of warning lights on my Superb (admittedly after 80k) and the recovery chap correctly diagnosed as a faulty turbocharger, I think he said it was the top half, not the full unit, so only likely to be a £500 bill, not the full £1500 for a full new turbo, fortunately, it was a lease car but sure enough, a repair was undertaken without needing a full turbo replacement.

Today's news.

Car needs replacement ECU.

Would it be best getting them to fit a brand new DPF while they are at it? Dont know what sort of damage was caused to it during that journey home.

Would it be best getting them to fit a brand new DPF while they are at it? Dont know what sort of damage was caused to it during that journey home.

 

Might actually be no issue with the DPF. If the ECU is faulty it might not be reading or receiving the signals from the DPF correctly, so it believes there's a fault where there actually isn't one and throws the car into limp mode.

 

 

TP

Ok, so guess what. The dealer replaced the ECU and kept the car for 65 miles which is the mileage at which a brand new ECU resets itself to the car (apparently). At this point, the ECU tried to reset and then it had faults again. Frustrated dealer then went back to the start all over again and double checked what my local dealer had tried (the sensors). They found that 2 of the sensors were the wrong part number for a 2.0 TDI engine and instead were parts for a 1.6 engine. They have replaced these and are now road testing again. Obviously a bad breakdown of Quality from the Skoda Factory if this happened.

Fingers crossed that this is now nailed. It would make sense as the other sensors are calibrated to expect completely different gas and temp.

What a ball ache, I hope this is the final fix and SUK give you some sort of compensation for the hassle.

Yes indeed matey.  I have to say, that Simpsons Skoda in Preston have been exceptional. 

They have already said I will get compensated but won't say how until they have the car fixed. Hopefully, this is the fix and I can get back in the car!

So was it the sensors all along?

It would appear so JungleJames, yes.  What a waste of money changing the DPF and ECU! Still, not my money.

Slightly off topic.....but talk about wasting money my Skoda dealer changed my instrument cluster and spent hours trying to fix a fault that ended up being a simple change of service type on the computer.

Glad it is sorted

I'm starting to think that the Master Techs haven't had any training on the MQB platform yet ............

It would appear so JungleJames, yes.  What a waste of money changing the DPF and ECU! Still, not my money.

 

Fortunately not your money, just your time and all the hassle. 

 

I'm starting to think that the Master Techs haven't had any training on the MQB platform yet ............

I think they learn on the job.

I'm starting to think that the Master Techs haven't had any training on the MQB platform yet ............

To be fair, you wouldn't expect to be supplied with the wrong sensors.

I worked in the trade a few years ago for Renault as a master tech (RTE). I spent a week trying to fix an espace pulling to the left. Turns out the factory fitted wrong front springs and the parts info was wrong and was causing the parts debt to get wrong springs.

I also spent two weeks trying to solve a noise on a trafic van gearbox. Three gearboxes and two clutches later it turns out the factory was supplying the wrong clutch.

It's not always the tech's fault. A lot of the time we worked in the dark as the manufacture didn't know what to do with problems. Obviously this was Renault and not Skoda, but probably on the same wavelength!!

Seems a bit of a struggle with some dealers at the moment though. Funny how one dealer can notice it is the wrong sensor, and another one doesn't though.

Sent from my phone so please excuse brevity and spelling

Seems a bit of a struggle with some dealers at the moment though. Funny how one dealer can notice it is the wrong sensor, and another one doesn't though.

Sent from my phone so please excuse brevity and spelling

It's not just dealer, its tech to tech.

It's not just dealer, its tech to tech.

I agree, I worked with some real muppets who I wouldn't let loose on a wheel barrow let alone an automobile. On the other hand I also worked with some that were so on the ball, proper old school mechanics but had embraced the modern automobile and wore a technician badge with pride.

The VAG system calling off incorrect parts isn't a first.  Cost VW several Scirocco twincharger engines before they figured out the wrong plugs were specified for the Scirocco (but not any other VW with the same engine).  New engines didn't have recurring problems as they had the factory build plugs in - engines only failed when they had new plugs at the 38k service (or as one kind dealer did and gave the owner a full service on a used car - new engine in under 2000 miles in his case).  Mine had 5 or 6 sets before VW held up their hands and said they had no idea why the plugs were overheating (in under 80 miles for the one set).  It was the Master tech who found the issue by cross referencing the engines with those in the Passat, Tiguan, Golf, Polo etc..

Got my car back today and really loving having a good drive. Instantly happy again. Also liking the full tank of fuel and new rubber load mat gratis for my trouble (and also a full months lease costs refunded!).

From February 2014, a vehicle will automatically fail the MOT test if a DPF has been fitted as standard but is found to be no longer present.

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/84818/mot-test-fail-dpf-removal

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-rules-for-mot-to-test-for-diesel-particulate-filter

My VRS is a month old with about 1100 miles. Regen yesterday and today and now DPF Fault light on dash. Hmmmm

Well my vRS has less than 100 miles on it and it was trying to do a regen twice yesterday! I hope it was just being daft and it settles down.

Well my vRS has less than 100 miles on it and it was trying to do a regen twice yesterday! I hope it was just being daft and it settles down.

 

Mine did several in the first 1000 miles but has calmed down, defo does more than my mkII vRS did....