The rozzers.. what do you want to know?

[Brimma]

This is topical

 

 

Should an incident be shown on TV on police interceptors before the case is actually finalised in court?

 

 

I would have said not, potentially

[Sippo]

A bit of a strange question about the internals of the police force itself... I am part way through the application/interview process for the police force, but working with the technical support side of things. I understand it is about support the internal systems with database and applications. What is a police officers view on the backroom staff with the computer systems and what is the relationship like between yourself and the team itself.

 

I may not have explained myself well, and I know each force works in a different way.

I worked as part of an IT team a few years ago. I managed was part of the network team who also managed the radios. I also helped investigate ANPR when it was first thought about.

You have to have very vigorous checks for security. You don't really see or speak to many officers, apart from in the custody suites. For me I found the PC's unfriendly but the higher ranks more chatty.

[Jon_woo]

A bit of a strange question about the internals of the police force itself... I am part way through the application/interview process for the police force, but working with the technical support side of things. I understand it is about support the internal systems with database and applications. What is a police officers view on the backroom staff with the computer systems and what is the relationship like between yourself and the team itself.

 

I may not have explained myself well, and I know each force works in a different way.

 

Our IT support use to be the worst i have ever seen. however our support was merged with the other two forces we merged with and i have to say its now pretty good. I can literally log an incident from a working machine and give them the MIC number of the broken machine.

 

If they can remote into it and fix it they will and if not they will come down and take a look, they usually check out a few other issues whilst on station. Officers are the first to complain when somethings broken but refuse to report it!

[Jon_woo]

This is topical

 

 

Should an incident be shown on TV on police interceptors before the case is actually finalised in court?

 

 

I would have said not, potentially

 

Tough one.... depends on the job and the circumstances etc. Probably not a good idea in most cases

[Jon_woo]

I worked as part of an IT team a few years ago. I managed was part of the network team who also managed the radios. I also helped investigate ANPR when it was first thought about.

You have to have very vigorous checks for security. You don't really see or speak to many officers, apart from in the custody suites. For me I found the PC's unfriendly but the higher ranks more chatty.

 

 

PC's are very wary of anyone in civi clothes wondering around the station, mainly due to most people on the nick seeing response officers as scum lol

[Sippo]

We had the black combats with black force polo shirts, and ID's.

Obviously I was only generalising, but is the same in any organisation. Working as an 'insider' was definitely an eye opener!!

[Aspman]

Why do the PC attending road incident never seem to bothing picking up the "Police Slow" signs? They hang around for days after the bump.

Edited 27 February, 2014 by Aspman

[aolt]

I worked as part of an IT team a few years ago. I managed was part of the network team who also managed the radios. I also helped investigate ANPR when it was first thought about.

You have to have very vigorous checks for security. You don't really see or speak to many officers, apart from in the custody suites. For me I found the PC's unfriendly but the higher ranks more chatty.

I've always been curious about the police, and how the inner workings are anyway, but you've described some of the systems how I thought anyway. I'm also aware that security would be a huge factor too. I wouldn't mind talking to some police in the role itself.

 

Our IT support use to be the worst i have ever seen. however our support was merged with the other two forces we merged with and i have to say its now pretty good. I can literally log an incident from a working machine and give them the MIC number of the broken machine.

 

If they can remote into it and fix it they will and if not they will come down and take a look, they usually check out a few other issues whilst on station. Officers are the first to complain when somethings broken but refuse to report it!

Hopefully this force is better than the others ;-) I like to think that I would be part of team that would be trusted and happy to report issues.

 

I'm not surprised there are people who don't report issues. It would then be down to someone else to report it, and then expect it to work as soon as possible!

 

PC's are very wary of anyone in civi clothes wondering around the station, mainly due to most people on the nick seeing response officers as scum lol

I think it's mutual suspicion :-)

 

 

Thanks for the feedback, it will help with the interview gives me a better idea of the people who I would be supporting. :-)

[2SkodaFamily]

What do you think of pcso's ? I think their a waste of money ! , the government need to employ more PC 's stop this emphasis on cheap wooden policemen/women

PCSOs were the first step on the ladder of conning the public that there are more police on the streets than there really are. BIG mistake by Labour.

 

It was a major reason in my leaving the Specials.

 

Now there are wide regional variations with some forces giving power of arrest to PCSOs and some not. A PCSO might be half the cost of a PC, but I'd rather have an experienced PC than two PSCOs.

[RainbowFire]

This is topical

 

 

Should an incident be shown on TV on police interceptors before the case is actually finalised in court?

 

 

I would have said not, potentially

 

Why? Are we likely to see the JPS on there soon? :p :p

 

 

I would agree though, definitely not. Those that were FPN or caution, yes, but not pre-court footage.

[essexocty]

As a general rule case either aren't shown before court or the identies places names etc aren't shown to protect the case! Not always mind.

I've been case several times for court results for police interceptors jobs so they can be shown!

NO IM NOT ON INTERCEPTORS!!!!!!!!'

Lol

[LewisVRS]

I work as a technician on police vehicles and have always wondered why officers put 50 psi in each tyre NO MATTER WHAT VEHICLE when it comes in for a service and they're checked. Rattles my cage. And also why do they remove the weapons when an ARV comes in? We would have so much fun.

[RainbowFire]

 And also why do they remove the weapons when an ARV comes in?

 

I thought they were locked away anyway.

 

I vaugely recall being told, many years ago, that the "ski flap" on Vauxhalls was designed so that officers could be arm as they exited the vehicle. (much like the Woolwich incident)

[essexocty]

I thought they were locked away anyway.

I vaugely recall being told, many years ago, that the "ski flap" on Vauxhalls was designed so that officers could be arm as they exited the vehicle. (much like the Woolwich incident)

All forces are different in their weapons carriage

In our force we have a safe that takes up the middle seat with primary weapons that can be accessed from with the car then to boot contains more ammo and specialist weapons

[essexocty]

I thought they were locked away anyway.

I vaugely recall being told, many years ago, that the "ski flap" on Vauxhalls was designed so that officers could be arm as they exited the vehicle. (much like the Woolwich incident)

All forces are different in their weapons carriage

In our force we have a safe that takes up the middle seat with primary weapons that can be accessed from with the car then to boot contains more ammo and specialist weapons

[Jon_woo]

I work as a technician on police vehicles and have always wondered why officers put 50 psi in each tyre NO MATTER WHAT VEHICLE when it comes in for a service and they're checked. Rattles my cage. And also why do they remove the weapons when an ARV comes in? We would have so much fun.

 

The same reason they let the cars run out of fluids and cook them, sheer lack of respect and basic knowledge of vehicle maintenance.

 

Don't get me started on people that get a puncture and call out recovery to get the vehicle back to a station so someone else can change to the spare, someone a few weeks ago called out recovery when they were less than a mile form station after getting a puncture..... when asked about it she said "im female, i cant be expected to stand in a busy road and change the tyre"

 

[Dr Zoidberg]

The same reason they let the cars run out of fluids and cook them, sheer lack of respect and basic knowledge of vehicle maintenance.

 

Don't get me started on people that get a puncture and call out recovery to get the vehicle back to a station so someone else can change to the spare, someone a few weeks ago called out recovery when they were less than a mile form station after getting a puncture..... when asked about it she said "im female, i cant be expected to stand in a busy road and change the tyre"

 

 

To counter that, we were told that we were not allowed to change lightbulbs on our cars and indeed weren't allowed bulbs, and if we found that one was out when we checked the cars at the start of a night or evening shift (as always happened, honest), we should withdraw the vehicle from use and arrange for it to be taken to the garage during the next day shift.

 

Given that that would leave us without a car for the shift we just drove to the petrol station with a bulb out and bought one ourself and fitted it, then denied all knowledge.

[Jon_woo]

To counter that, we were told that we were not allowed to change lightbulbs on our cars and indeed weren't allowed bulbs, and if we found that one was out when we checked the cars at the start of a night or evening shift (as always happened, honest), we should withdraw the vehicle from use and arrange for it to be taken to the garage during the next day shift.

 

Given that that would leave us without a car for the shift we just drove to the petrol station with a bulb out and bought one ourself and fitted it, then denied all knowledge.

 

Ours is the exact same for things like this, does my head in tbh.

 

But getting a puncture and calling out £300 recovery for less than a mile is just stupid, could have limped it back at 2mph!!

[Dr Zoidberg]

Ours is the exact same for things like this, does my head in tbh.

 

But getting a puncture and calling out £300 recovery for less than a mile is just stupid, could have limped it back at 2mph!!

 

Can you imagine the abusive comments you'd get on here if someone took a photo of a panda being driven with a flat tyre, even if it was just a short distance?

[@Lee]

Can you imagine the abusive comments you'd get on here if someone took a photo of a panda being driven with a flat tyre, even if it was just a short distance?

there'd be videos on YT and FB, moaning, outcrys and 'look at this idiot copper driving with a flat' posts left, right and centre. Not a good image at all.

[KenONeill]

Ours is the exact same for things like this, does my head in tbh.

 

But getting a puncture and calling out £300 recovery for less than a mile is just stupid, could have limped it back at 2mph!!

Er, if anyone else tried that, they'd be pulled over and stopped from proceeding, if not actually charged. There is plenty of footage of Police making claims that 1 missing wheel nut constitutes an unroadworthy vehicle.

[essexocty]

Er, if anyone else tried that, they'd be pulled over and stopped from proceeding, if not actually charged. There is plenty of footage of Police making claims that 1 missing wheel nut constitutes an unroadworthy vehicle.

That's not true! It's about justification, if your limping your car off a busy dual carriageway to a safe place then that's fine if your popping down the shop because you can be bothered to change it then that's a different story! I've had to point out to people that it's safer to keep moving than to stop on several occasions.

[mdon]

The same reason they let the cars run out of fluids and cook them, sheer lack of respect and basic knowledge of vehicle maintenance.

Don't get me started on people that get a puncture and call out recovery to get the vehicle back to a station so someone else can change to the spare, someone a few weeks ago called out recovery when they were less than a mile form station after getting a puncture..... when asked about it she said "im female, i cant be expected to stand in a busy road and change the tyre"

To be fair, we have spare wheels in our patrol cars but no tools as we aren't allowed to change the tyres, we normally call out Hi Q who replace the tyre at the nick after it's been recovered.

[RainbowFire]

To be fair, we have spare wheels in our patrol cars but no tools as we aren't allowed to change the tyres, we normally call out Hi Q who replace the tyre at the nick after it's been recovered.

 

I'd lay money that it'll be a "health and safety" driven issue (thank your union for that one), and that you'd need be be from a highly trained professional organisation to carry out such a complex and dangerous procedure at the roadside.

 

I supose no-one's thought of using run-flats or that shytie-in-a-can stuff?

[2SkodaFamily]

The same reason they let the cars run out of fluids and cook them, sheer lack of respect and basic knowledge of vehicle maintenance.

 

Don't get me started on people that get a puncture and call out recovery to get the vehicle back to a station so someone else can change to the spare, someone a few weeks ago called out recovery when they were less than a mile form station after getting a puncture..... when asked about it she said "im female, i cant be expected to stand in a busy road and change the tyre"

 

I was a passenger once where we were moving (quickly) to intercept a follow. The driver banged a kerb really hard and buggered the wheel.

 

He genuinely didn't know how to change a wheel. I was gobsmacked. I changed the wheel, we limped it carefully back to the nick and defected it until the suspension etc could be checked.

 

It's amazing that some people don't know how to change a wheel. Isn't it part of the test nowadays though, to at least demonstrate the knowledge of how it's done?