I thought you did Home Care and drive between jobs,

 that is not driving for a Living,

 but if yoiu loose your licence it is a problem.   How many miles a week do you drive while working?

Yes you are right but i spend that much sodding time in the car it feels like all i do..i know Taxi's that do less miles

 

A month ill do 1200 in the work car and just over 300 in the Clio

So 40 miles a day if you drive it every day, or about 57 miles a day in a Working week.

 

Do you even need to use a gallon of petrol a day?

 

I remember the Poor Fuel consumption thread and how you knew how to drive economically and efficiently.

So how is the car going now,

and has the MPG improved now that you are going for it?

I don't think you're going to convince people on this one Emma.  I'm totally with you, but I know the road you're on about and use it regularly.  As I said, the fun police have arrived.

Im talking 40mph on 60mph on open roads and less on country roads, no one just seems to enjoy driving over here

The speed limit on a road is just that the LIMIT, not the target.

Just because you think it safe to go faster doesn't mean everyone else does.

You don't have to go fast to enjoy the drive.

 

And reading some of the replies on here I suggest that some of you need to go on a Defensive Driving Course!

All Jane mentioned is overtaking the increasing amount of dawdlers there are lately and out come comments about speeding and license losing. I really do despair with this place sometimes.

I'm doing over 500 miles a week on A and B roads commuting to work. If I don't overtake the dawdlers and "make progress" I'd add at least 30 mins one way to my journey time. And I'm not speeding either. I'm simply making progress and actually wanting to do limits. If someone isn't prepared to do the limit for whatever reason, be it the vehicle capablility, driver ability, etc they should make it as easy as possible to be passed and not be a road captain about it.

 

I don't think you're going to convince people on this one Emma.  I'm totally with you, but I know the road you're on about and use it regularly.  As I said, the fun police have arrived.

 

Thank you..i knew it was be a controversial thread but these are the folk that obviously hold me up haha (that was a joke before i get slap on the wrist!) 

 

No you dont have to go to speed limit to enjoy the road...i never mentioned breaking the sodding speed limit, if you well travelled you might of come across the Hemsley road, an absolute hoot and on certain parts is impossible to go the speed limit but doesn't mean you cant enjoy it.

The speed limit on a road is just that the LIMIT, not the target.

Just because you think it safe to go faster doesn't mean everyone else does.

You don't have to go fast to enjoy the drive.

And reading some of the replies on here I suggest that some of you need to go on a Defensive Driving Course!

there is also a section in the highway code about making adequate progress. I failed my test for not overtaking a skip lorry doing 40 in a 60 in the pouring rain. If conditions allow and your vehicle allows you must make adequate progress, ie the speed limit.

This was also drummed into me in my advanced driving being constantly asked why I wasn't doing 60 down A roads.

The old not the target adage is the reason the roads are full of morons. If the road is fit for 60 then do 60, pretty simple.

Sod it, im off to live in Germany..never got road rage once due to this issue

 

Can i just mention to back up my case of not driving like a hoon, just worked out the fuel receipts from the Clio 172 Cup and managed 35mpg so that backs me up i dont tear up the tarmac like some are suggesting 

I find the same. Whenever I do this type of A road route the roads are littered with people doing 20mph under the speed limit or that slow down way too much for bends or are scared to change gear and get their engine revving a bit.

 

I drive to the conditions and generally stick to the speed limit unless completing an overtake safely requires going a little over.

 

The you get the other side of the spectrum. The car that follows you in the overtake but then continues to try and "push" you to go faster, sits on your bumper through the 30 and 40 limits and generally drives like an idiot. I let them past at the first opportunity and let them get on with it.

 

The most annoying ones are those that have just been doing 45-50mph on straight open roads. You pass them then they suddenly catch you up in the 30 zone and sit on your back bumper. Then they disappear once out of the 30 then you see them in the next 30 zone again!

 

Phil

Is this an A road route with a National limit on it,

or is it a B road with the same limit on it.

A 'B road' with a 60 limit might well not be safe the length of the route to do at 60 mph,

i do not just mean in the corners.

 

National speed limit is 60 except where limited, or a Motorway , Dual Carriageway of 70. 

 

Many drivers are never aware of Commercial Vans limits on the same route as they are driving on, or HGVs.

 

Many have no idea the Max that HGV's are allowed on section of the A9 from Inverness to Perth.

But a trial is being put in place to allow the increase in the Speed limit for them on the Single Carriageways.

It all depends on whether the journey is part of your day out or merely what you need to do in order to get on with whatever job you do.   The road that was initially mentioned is unfortunately for Emma a popular tourist route.  Many people out looking at t' Moors and thinking about the fish and chips they are going to eat or thinking about the fish and chips they have eaten.

It's the same with Scarborough.  The main arterial route from civilisation to the coast is also the road we need to use to get to said civilisation.  If I am in the FRV, we are just trying to get to wherever so the daydreamers don't appreciate that it's our only way to get there.  If I'm in the Ignis, I don't have the children so like to enjoy the drive.  Either way, their day is at odds with mine so we will never agree.  They don't get it and I wouldn't expect them to, just as I can't see why they think that 40mph is acceptable when it is possible to go a bit quicker and have some thought for people who aren't time-rich or scared of the simple act of driving.

 

edit : My driving instructor used to get quite wound up if we weren't 'making progress'. There were many occasions where the phrase 'More gas. More gas!' was shouted in my left ear. 

It's either fogies in cars doing 40mph in an easy 60mph limit or eejit lads doing 85 on the same road.

 

It's a rare pleasure to travel up the road behind a driver with the same mentality as yourself.

Is this an A road route with a National limit on it,

or is it a B road with the same limit on it.

A 'B road' with a 60 limit might well not be safe the length of the route to do at 60 mph,

i do not just mean in the corners.

 

National speed limit is 60 except where limited, or a Motorway , Dual Carriageway of 70. 

 

Many drivers are never aware of Commercial Vans limits on the same route as they are driving on, or HGVs.

 

Many have no idea the Max that HGV's are allowed on section of the A9 from Inverness to Perth.

But a trial is being put in place to allow the increase in the Speed limit for them on the Single Carriageways.

 

With it being call the A171 it kind of gives it away. Ive already said this is an easy road, the only part it might get tricky is call Birk Brow and thats a 50mph zone, implying to any motorists with common sense that you need to a bit more aware to your surroundings. 

Roads will always talk to you, give them respect and use anticipation and planning..not to mention common sense..it isnt hard! 

Yes,I think they are, a example was I was a motorcyclist on a traffic department in South Cheshire for 16yrs 6 grade 1advanced car drivers and two ditto advanced car/motorcyclist.Four shifts 32 men/women. There were only two truly outstanding drivers/riders who could make a car/bike talk at any speed. I think we all have our own limit, it's just some are naturally talented,otherwise we would all be formula 1drivers. I think I know what he means he wants to make progress swiftly within the law which is what a advanced driver would aim to do, however patience is needed until the opportunity arises for a overtake pushing it without the planning and opportunity will get you in trouble.The main issue as I see it is a lot do drivers who are following a vehicle sitting 10mph below the speed limit,who do not want to overtake it for whatever reason rarely leave a suitable gap to drop into,this causes,the faster driver to take risks. NOT WORTH IT. Regarding the talented drivers/riders, no I was not one of them, mr average I'm afraid.

It all depends on whether the journey is part of your day out or merely what you need to do in order to get on with whatever job you do.   The road that was initially mentioned is unfortunately for Emma a popular tourist route.  Many people out looking at t' Moors and thinking about the fish and chips they are going to eat or thinking about the fish and chips they have eaten.

It's the same with Scarborough.  The main arterial route from civilisation to the coast is also the road we need to use to get to said civilisation.  If I am in the FRV, we are just trying to get to wherever so the daydreamers don't appreciate that it's our only way to get there.  If I'm in the Ignis, I don't have the children so like to enjoy the drive.  Either way, their day is at odds with mine so we will never agree.  They don't get it and I wouldn't expect them to, just as I can't see why they think that 40mph is acceptable when it is possible to go a bit quicker and have some thought for people who aren't time-rich or scared of the simple act of driving.

 

On my wave lengh! Not to kiss bottom or anything but i adore your Ignis..i was sooo close to buying one but it was yellow :( Id happily have one any day of the week

 

It's either fogies in cars doing 40mph in an easy 60mph limit or eejit lads doing 85 on the same road.

 

It's a rare pleasure to travel up the road behind a driver with the same mentality as yourself.

 

Ok thanks youve put it in better words then i did..just someone with the same mentality Like i said this has happened very few times, last one was an S5, i love the communication you get with the car in front without ever meeting each other  

The old not the target adage is the reason the roads are full of morons. If the road is fit for 60 then do 60, pretty simple.

 

I'm obviously a moron then. but that certainly wasn't what I was taught on my last Defensive Driving Course.

I'm obviously a moron then. but that certainly wasn't what I was taught on my last Defensive Driving Course.

 

No but where safe to there is not reason not to

Many roads are called A roads because 100-60 years ago they were the only route,  Kept the name.

Often they still are the only route and no different in the corners and straights as 60 years ago.

here in Scotland we have B Roads that are in better condition or updated compared to A roads in Scotland and England.

 

There is the thing in the UK that the likes of a Clio, Suzuki Swift and the likes are perfect across moor roads cars and transport,

& a BMW M5, Merc etc can be a total PITA on certain routes and as much as they can handle and nip on,

they are more often across a white line or where a white line might be if there were such things.

 

Amazing amount of Motorway Barges about on Country routes that are possibly best used where they were designed for

 

One of these would be torture to own and drive i would think,

a Huyndia i10 would be a better choice every time probably

@jane_i10 i dont know your age but i think you have to be under a certain age to understand your point. Im almost 27 and i too get very annoyed at people rumbling along at 20/30mph under the limit.

Fair enough everyone can do as they please can if they want to drive slower thats fine... But im entitled to be annoyed at them just as much. What bugs me more is they flash you if you overtake safely

No but where safe to there is not reason not to

at least someone sees my point.

at least someone sees my point.

So do I. If it's safe to do so then make progress. If there is an issue then don't hinder the progress for others. When I used to drive vans I'd often tap a left indicator to let the car behind know ahead was clear and I'd get a flash of hazards as a thanks. I overtook a tanker on a B road this week with good visibility and he responded with a long blast of horn and multiple flashes. There's no need for it and at night it's even worse. I've gone now I dip my inside mirror to stop myself being blinded.

Oh sweet jesus. Don't get me started on the 40mph everywhere crew. 

Worst part is, if you dare question it, you're automatically a psychopathic speeder with a death wish... 

The thing is it is literally 40mph everywhere!

Even in a 30 its 40

So do I. If it's safe to do so then make progress. If there is an issue then don't hinder the progress for others. When I used to drive vans I'd often tap a left indicator to let the car behind know ahead was clear and I'd get a flash of hazards as a thanks. I overtook a tanker on a B road this week with good visibility and he responded with a long blast of horn and multiple flashes. There's no need for it and at night it's even worse. I've gone now I dip my inside mirror to stop myself being blinded.

lorry drivers are the worst for this. Just because they can't do 60 they think everyone else should be stuck at the same speed as them. Had one the other day in the outside lane of the m5 overtaking a lorry that was overtaking a lorry. Sat there for about 2miles with my main beam on to be greeted with a load of abuse when I went past him. Yet he was the one breaking the law.

I do very rarely though get the odd lorry driver who will put his left indicator on letting me know the road ahead is clear. If only they were all like that.

Another thing whilst I'm on a rant, ignorant tractor drivers who also seem to think they own the road and simply waft past pull in after pull in. They get my horn when I overtake (usually after overtaking every other moron who blindly sits behind the tractor without overtaking him)

I used to get annoyed with slow drivers at weekend but it dosnt bother me nowadays for 2 simple reasons.

I drive for a living and do on average 1000 miles a week so if I go out on a weekend I am in no rush to get there.

The second is down to the car which could also be a reason for some of the long ques.

I drive a Superb 1.6 TDi Greenline which a great car very comfy and will keep up with ant traffic I come across.

But with only 105bhp on tap in a car its size you do need plenty of room to overtake and more so if you are following traffic at 45-50mph.