It's quite amazing how much choice is about and the discount levels that are available, I'd been looking primarily at cost, lead time and features/comfort comparisons with only a slight eye on not dropping too far on performance etc in looking for an alternative.

 

It's also amazing when you look how many cars have similar performance as well, so little to seprate them these days. I assumed going from a 220BHP petrol down to a 200BHP diesel I'd be a bit down on the 0-60 sprint etc but it's not actually the case (well on paper anyway):-

 

VRS:-

220 BHP

0-60 in 6.9

350 NM Torque

149 CO2

44.1 Combined MPG

 

C250 CDI:-

204 BHP

0-60 in 7.1

500 NM Torque

136 CO2

56.5 Combined CO2

 

Just shows how, with such small differences, personal preference, cost, availability and customer service can be deal winners.

Edited 26 February, 201412 yr by tuonopepper

It's quite amazing how much choice is about and the discount levels that are available, I'd been looking primarily at cost, lead time and features/comfort comparisons with only a slight eye on not dropping too far on performance etc in looking for an alternative.

 

It's also amazing when you look how many cars have similar performance as well, so little to seprate them these days. I assumed going from a 220BHP petrol down to a 200BHP diesel I'd be a bit down on the 0-60 sprint etc but it's not actually the case (well on paper anyway):-

 

VRS:-

220 BHP

0-60 in 6.9

350 NM Torque

149 CO2

44.1 Combined MPG (Actual averaging 28.4mpg over 2100miles)

 

C250 CDI:-

204 BHP

0-60 in 7.1

500 NM Torque

136 CO2

56.5 Combined CO2 (Actual average of my C220, which is more economical than C250, has averaged 38.4mpg over 24500mile)

 

Just shows how, with such small differences, personal preference, cost, availability and customer service can be deal winners.

 

Just put my actual MPG figures in for you for reference. I keep a record for the Merc as it's a company car. The VRS hasn't had a reset on the trip yet.

 

Edited to add - I got my mileage wrong. Here is the current average MPG of the Merc.

Edited 26 February, 201412 yr by Stumpage

Thanks, I can live with that coming from an Insignia VXR :-)

MB dealer phoned me to say someone beat me to the car so it's gone! They have another that they've secured but it won't arrive until Wednesday so no 1st March collection....that's the bad news....the good news is as I'm in Copenhagen all next week so it would only have sat at the airport all week....and the replacement car has a panoramic roof in addition to the spec of the previous car yet it's not costing me any more xx

Well, another one bites the dust!

Cancelled my VRS order as still no idea on dates, dealer very understanding and professional and full deposit refunded.

Just ordered a C250 CDI AMG Sport Plus Premium and collect on Saturday, not a VRS I know but I do love the interior and there's always plusses and minusses with any car comparison, the great deal helped :-)

The irony is as I'm leaving the retail park they are all on I pulled up next to a VRS hatch in race blue, exactly the same as I've just cancelled, brought a wry smile to my face after what's been a difficult decision, feel strangely relieved now!

I sincerely hope my jumping ship helps some of you still onboard the good ship SUK get your motors that bit sooner!

What deal did you get on the merc as this is my backup plan?

The A3 doesn't have a lot of offers, presumably as its not due for short term facelift/replacement.

The A4 has a new model out (I think) next year, meaning they are discounted more. If on Audi finance, you can get a reasonably well spec'd (SE Technik trim) 1.8 petrol manual A4 for under 21.4K ... no idea of payments, but that's a cracking price, I may find that hard to resist if the dealer can get close to that on a non finance deal for me.

I think most would need a larger deposit, but you should get under £300 pm ..... BMW have been bombarding me with letters and radio ads with less than that as payments, pity the 3 series has not enough rear legroom for my lot !

Great offers on the a4 and a6 but the Audi Apr is criminal.

Some good offers on the 3 series, and a more sensible 4.9% across the bmw range.

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What deal did you get on the merc as this is my backup plan?

James - In the end roughly 7750 off list and 3 years servicing.

Yes Audi APR at 6.8% really took away the price advantage. Merc PCP was 5.9 if I recall correctly and Jag 4.9.

New C Class out soon that's why the big discounts for stock cars. 

 

That's no bad thing though. Good cars the C Class. 

A4 is a dull but accomplished cruiser. Nothing like a vRS. 

 

Looking at your car info, looks like you have/had both, if both had the same engine, which one would you prefer to drive ?

Dare I say that apart from the fact a new C class will be the old C class in a few months, an "end of cycle" car should have no bugs, snags or issues...

Well my plan B hasn't worked .... Audi can't get the car I want on an in stock car, and 16 week build on an order means I may as well wait for the remainder of my indetermined time on the vRS 

I had a quick poke around the Mazda 6, first impressions from having a look around the car are very favourable, If your buying on finance 0% apr and no deposit PCP over 43 months is a nice deal, especially with a £1000 contribution from Mazda.

 

Trouble is no real offers on price for cash, which would mean it would cost me more than my specced up vRS.  (and be slower, similar performance to the diesel vRS).

No deposit, 0% APR and £1,000 contribution on your finance on your PCP deal for a lovely shiney Mazda 6 sports tourer bet there ain't no 28-32 week wait for one of these. Tempted I am.

Popped down to my local Mazda dealer today to look at the 6 and by all accounts a factory order would take 2-4 weeks. Lovely looking car , especially the Soul Red 14 reg Tourer that was sat outside. Am sorely tempted to get one rather than the O3 and wasn't even aware of the model until reading about it on this forum.

Seemingly good deals on a Toyota Avensis or Volvos according to a colleague...Volvo doing interest free with min 50% deposit which may appeal to those not wanting finance (not sure if there's a cap on max deposit).

Edited 28 February, 201412 yr by tuonopepper

I ordered my vRS petrol estate on 30th dec, having heard nothing for 3 weeks then been told 20-23 weeks by SUK I cancelled, got deposit back and have ordered an Audi A6 avant black edition ultra. Brand new model with 190ps and s tronic rather than the cvt gearbox. £30 a month more on PCP for a £28500 otr price for the vRS and a 39995 otr for the a6. Got a fantastic price via carwow - 9k off which took it ridiculously close to the skoda

Confirmed bw11 for the audi so picking up early April. Couldn't be happier!!

I ordered my vRS petrol estate on 30th dec, having heard nothing for 3 weeks then been told 20-23 weeks by SUK I cancelled, got deposit back and have ordered an Audi A6 avant black edition ultra. Brand new model with 190ps and s tronic rather than the cvt gearbox. £30 a month more on PCP for a £28500 otr price for the vRS and a 39995 otr for the a6. Got a fantastic price via carwow - 9k off which took it ridiculously close to the skoda

Confirmed bw11 for the audi so picking up early April. Couldn't be happier!!

 

I've just looked on drivethedeal and the A6 saloon ultra black s-tronic is coming in at below £25k with nearly £8k off, that's a seriously good deal and even beats the A4 option I was considering.

I'm seriously considering cancelling my order which is build week 13 and does have the 0% and free servicing for this.

Does the black edition come with the uncompromisingly harsh suspension though?

 

Cheers

Edited 1 March, 201412 yr by Zzap

I've just been to the mazda dealer.  compared to the tsi manual hatch vrs with just sunset glass, with military discount I can get a totaly standard spec mazda 6 tourer sport for about £500 more, so that's what I crawled over and took for a short test.

 

its no bigger, even as the tourer, in fact its got less elbow room and far less rear leg room, and boot is no bigger, possibly shorter, buts its big enough.

boot is nearly flat.

its full leather

its got front and rear parking sensors, rear camera, sat nav, bose sound, smart city braking (very like front assist but only at urban speeds it seems),

awesome colours!

nice shape, looks smart.

sunset glass,

no noisier dispite its 19" alloys but it is a harder ride.  fiancee in the back commented on the straight away.

 at 165PS for the petrol manual sport its far slower than the vrs.  in fact it may even be slower than the 11.5 year old 2.0 litre duratec powered mondeo that is the current car, although not much in that

 

Boot recess will ONLY take a space saver..hmm...this is not good in my view

 

order to collection, 4 weeks or lesss even if they have one in the system.

 

Hmm.

 

I'll think on it..  very different car, slower but more refined.  nicer place to be definitely, although not sure its that much nice and the harsher ride could make it feel worse on longer runs.  Far more features/toys, far, far slower. smaller, but big enough.

I've just looked on drivethedeal and the A6 saloon ultra black s-tronic is coming in at below £25k with nearly £8k off, that's a seriously good deal and even beats the A4 option I was considering.

I'm seriously considering cancelling my order which is build week 13 and does have the 0% and free servicing for this.

Does the black edition come with the uncompromisingly harsh suspension though?

 

Cheers

I only stumbled on it by accident. Never even considered it initially as figured it was way out of reach. Only looked as suddenly realised that the a4 just wasn't going to be big enough over the long term.

20" wheels and sline suspension is not the most supple ride but I didn't find it much worse than the vRS. I think you can choose the se spec suspension. Or just go for the se which is an even better deal - just looked a bit grown up to me!

wow, that is a huge discount on the A6, is it really true that you can get another £1800 off if paying cash? Is their lead time as dire as Skoda's?!

Edited 1 March, 201412 yr by Dr_Pepper

wow, that is a huge discount on the A6, is it really true that you can get another £1800 off if paying cash? Is their lead time as dire as Skoda's?!

I couldn't believe the discount given it's a car with a few years before a new model and the ultra offers huge improvements all round on the old 177 multitronic. Think it's 1800 off for cash or 2250 if using audi finance. This is built into the drivethedeal and carwow offers though I believe.

Doing it via PCP it was the residual value of the audi that made it a no brained over the vRS. Balanced out the 0% finance to some extent but in the end I just thought for the sake of a takeaway each month extra it's a no brainer. I have bw11 confirmed for mine, but think they are quoting May now.

Talking to a friendly audi dealer he said hat the q7's and q5's have crazy lead times at the moment so they are heavily discounting the a6/7's to try and sway people back to the slightly less trendy models.

I couldn't believe the discount given it's a car with a few years before a new model and the ultra offers huge improvements all round on the old 177 multitronic. Think it's 1800 off for cash or 2250 if using audi finance. This is built into the drivethedeal and carwow offers though I believe.

Doing it via PCP it was the residual value of the audi that made it a no brained over the vRS. Balanced out the 0% finance to some extent but in the end I just thought for the sake of a takeaway each month extra it's a no brainer. I have bw11 confirmed for mine, but think they are quoting May now.

Talking to a friendly audi dealer he said hat the q7's and q5's have crazy lead times at the moment so they are heavily discounting the a6/7's to try and sway people back to the slightly less trendy models.

 

I had a look on the Audi configurator and I can see that the Black Ultra does come with sports suspension but no option to delete it, one for the dealer on Monday I think.

 

SE looks ok but needs speccing up a bit, Black Ultra goes totally the other way, does look good tho.  20" tyres are NOT going to be cheap

 

I think the only option I would add is the 3-spoke sports steering wheel with paddle shift.

 

Without wanting to pry too much Chief, could you give us an example of the figures you went with e.g deposit (I think it's minimum 5%), monthly payments etc, it's just that the other half may need a bit of prying away from the 0%.

Totally understand if you'd rather not.

 

 

Who was the Audi dealer and what colour did you go for just out of interest?

 

Cheers

Edited 1 March, 201412 yr by Zzap

Hi Zzap.

If you're using the audi configurator then the code for my configuration is ACMEZ230

Daytona grey though after much deliberation! Quartz grey also looks great in the flesh.

In terms of deal, I think it works well for me for a couple of reasons - I'd ordered a petrol vRS with around 4k of options so came in around 28500-29000 and I got a bit dizzy on the 0% etc so barely managed any deal from the dealer. Anyway, 5k down plus a part ex on my old merc for 1750 left me with monthlies of 290 over 42months iirc. Skoda offered me 1250 more for my car than any other vag/merc dealer so this was the only real 'discount'.

Still a bit gutted not to be going down the petrol route, but hey ho. Residual value and also just the difficulty getting hold of one (whether Skoda or audi) has softened my view! Audi said June for an a4 2.0tfsi Quattro when I was enquiring in Jan after cancelling the vRS.

I'm putting 6k down on the audi, over 48 months the payments are 326 with the additional options I specced. Car was 31005 vs list of 39950. This would be just over the 300mark though if you went for solid black/white etc. this was via carwow and two audi dealers offered the same price (both south east) which was a few hundred quid more than the drivethedeal price, but they had stock which was already ordered (audi converted something like 300 multitronics to ultras) and that they could alter the spec on. We desperately need the car (hence all the trouble with the vRS!) so have taken a slight hit for the early delivery. One thing worth being aware of is that the gfv does not take any options into account, so has a big impact on monthlies if you start ticking things. The black editions are very well equipped though! Ultra also means you get power boot, 73 litre tank etc in addition over old multitronic which is nice!

I went through Coulsdon audi in the end, very impressed by them too. Never got any contact from my Skoda dealer (although to be fair, they gave me my deposit back without quibble) which was very frustrating.

Good luck with the other half! Mine didn't take a lot of convincing as was so bored of me talking about cars by that point that she was barely listening! Killer tactics

Cheers,

Olls

Is that for a quartero version?

Cracking deal on a lovely car though.

That's a very effective business process from Audi, manage demand away from over subscribed models to avoid bad press or stories like the VRS saga. Perhaps Skoda should be doing the 3.6 V6 4x4 Superb at Vrs prices (assuming they still offer that engine, think Mine was 1 of about 10 in the country when I had it).

Edited 2 March, 201412 yr by tuonopepper

Thanks for taking the time to detail that Olls.

Funnily enough it's Coulsdon Audi that I was considering as they responded to the CarWow request, seems like they genuinely want the business.

 

As for the other half, she's at the glazed look whenever I mention cars stage, I think she's be happy with anything at this point.

 

Cheers

Dave

As for the other half, she's at the glazed look whenever I mention cars stage, I think she's be happy with anything at this point.

 

Mine too now

I might give up looking for room, and just see what I can cram the kids in

No problem. Can't believe how hard it has been to buy a new car! I originally set out to get a 3-4 year old a4 or 3 series but seems impossible without cash or willingness to take a loan.

Tuonopepper - it's not a Quattro unfortunately. The a6 only gets Quattro on the 3.0 engines and these pushed it way out of my budget.

Tony at coulsdon was also given the thumbs up by a friend of mine at caffyns audi in bton. They couldn't get close to the deal btw so guess coulsdon have some serious targets to hit!