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Quoted between £180 (no VAT) to £280 to have my 18" Themistos refurbed with a change of colour (fancy gunmetal or anthracite, but not sure how they'll look on a black car).

 

Question, though: you can get very tasty 18" alloys brand new for around £380.  Would it make more sense to buy new and sell my Themistos?

 

This is NOT an advert (I'm a Freedom member so don't have to cheapskate), but is there anyone who could tell me what my Themistos might be worth?  They're 2009 and two of them have got the lacquer peeling off in a couple of small places + a slight bit of kerb degradation round the rims on all four.  They're completely undamaged, though. I can supply photos on request, but for the moment, I just need a ball-park figure.

 

Secondly, has anyone got any pictures of a black Superb with coloured/modded alloys?  It's very difficult to guess what the car will look like.

 

Cheers.

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I had mine refurbed and painted 2-pack black here

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/314532-black-36-v6-estate/

 

As for prices, I've been watching for a while and seen a few sets of 4 go for around £200.  I bought a set myself for £220 for the winter.  A lot of people seem to overvalue them, but you can get them new for £155 +vat each

 

http://www.skodaparts.com/product/superb-themisto-alloy-wheel-18-inch-2008-2013-21074

 

Guy

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Guy,

 

This is extremely helpful; thanks.

 

Your car looks amazing.  A bit scary, perhaps, but impressive nonetheless!

Looks menacing too much black for some. Loving the alloys though(and the dropped ride height).

Ned, had the same dilemma and did the following: sold Themistos for £450 cash (1 had laquer peel, 3 were ok. 2 tyres 6mm and 2 tyres 2mm all Conti.) Then bought set of Golus 18 wheels with tyres from main dealer, 2k miles on them, basically brand new with 7mm+ tread on all 4 Conti's. Cost £577 inc delivery. Cost to change £127 for 4 new alloys and 4 new tyres - no brainer!

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Ned, had the same dilemma and did the following: sold Themistos for £450 cash (1 had laquer peel, 3 were ok. 2 tyres 6mm and 2 tyres 2mm all Conti.) Then bought set of Golus 18 wheels with tyres from main dealer, 2k miles on them, basically brand new with 7mm+ tread on all 4 Conti's. Cost £577 inc delivery. Cost to change £127 for 4 new alloys and 4 new tyres - no brainer!

 

Great trading there!  That looks to be the way to go, though I will keep my present tyres.  There are some lovely looking wheels out there.

Quoted between £180 (no VAT) to £280 to have my 18" Themistos refurbed with a change of colour (fancy gunmetal or anthracite, but not sure how they'll look on a black car).

 

Question, though: you can get very tasty 18" alloys brand new for around £380.  Would it make more sense to buy new and sell my Themistos?

 

This is NOT an advert (I'm a Freedom member so don't have to cheapskate), but is there anyone who could tell me what my Themistos might be worth?  They're 2009 and two of them have got the lacquer peeling off in a couple of small places + a slight bit of kerb degradation round the rims on all four.  They're completely undamaged, though. I can supply photos on request, but for the moment, I just need a ball-park figure.

 

Secondly, has anyone got any pictures of a black Superb with coloured/modded alloys?  It's very difficult to guess what the car will look like.

 

Cheers.

 

Save yourself £200 and get refurb :devil:...

Hi Ned

 

I was thinking of doing something with mine as well in this post  and was very interested in the results ChrisRS had in the post with a powder coat and then a black chrome spray.

 

Martin

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Save yourself £200 and get refurb :devil:...

 

Yeah; good shout.  I'm not that keen on the Themistos, though; I think there are much sexier wheels out there.

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Hi Ned

 

I was thinking of doing something with mine as well in this post  and was very interested in the results ChrisRS had in the post with a powder coat and then a black chrome spray.

 

Martin

 

Thanks for that, Martin.  I agree Chris's look special, but if I'm handing over £300, I want a radically new look. As I said in the previous post, I think the Themistos look a bit... vanilla.

Well, that's answered your question then, buying new it is. Personally, I think buying in the £400 range for a set of 18" alloys could be a bit of a lottery. Naturally there are horror stories about these cheaper alloys cracking, some completely from the hub, but you'll also find examples of manufacturer supplied alloys cracking too. Albeit, not so catastrophically as some of the aftermarket examples.

It's a fact that some of the aftermarket ones cut corners and are not as good quality as manufacturer supplied. The problem is that some are, and will serve you well without issues, but how do you tell? - most of these cheaper alloys are retailed without any manufacturer source info, so often it's impossible to tell which ones are ok or not.

So if I was in your shoes I'd spend a bit more, 40-50%, and get an aftermarket set from a manufacturer that gains TUV, full JWL approval for their alloys/factory, ones like MSP, Ronal, TSW etc.

You'll have quite a lot of options still, and you should be able to pick up a set as good as OEM quality for £500-600.....

http://www.performancealloys.com/WSP-ITALY-alloy-wheels.aspx

cheers, Steve

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Well, that's answered your question then, buying new it is. Personally, I think buying in the £400 range for a set of 18" alloys could be a bit of a lottery. Naturally there are horror stories about these cheaper alloys cracking, some completely from the hub, but you'll also find examples of manufacturer supplied alloys cracking too. Albeit, not so catastrophically as some of the aftermarket examples.

It's a fact that some of the aftermarket ones cut corners and are not as good quality as manufacturer supplied. The problem is that some are, and will serve you well without issues, but how do you tell? - most of these cheaper alloys are retailed without any manufacturer source info, so often it's impossible to tell which ones are ok or not.

So if I was in your shoes I'd spend a bit more, 40-50%, and get an aftermarket set from a manufacturer that gains TUV, full JWL approval for their alloys/factory, ones like MSP, Ronal, TSW etc.

You'll have quite a lot of options still, and you should be able to pick up a set as good as OEM quality for £500-600.....

http://www.performancealloys.com/WSP-ITALY-alloy-wheels.aspx

cheers, Steve

You should be able to get a set of Dezent alloys for this sort of money. I believe that with a little extra money Borbet should be achievable as well. Also, depending on the pattern you want, you should be able to get something from Enzo, DOTZ, etc.

Yeah; good shout.  I'm not that keen on the Themistos, though; I think there are much sexier wheels out there.

 

That is why I bought my Superb with Luxons :D

That is why I bought my Superb with Luxons :D

Hes after sexier, not boring though

Hes after sexier, not boring though

 

Are you sure we are talking about Superb ? You can't make an ugly ass looking "sexier" by wearing sexy stockings  :p

From a bloke who owns a Vectra!? :D

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Well, that's answered your question then, buying new it is. 

 

Yeah; when I started the thread I was genuinely open-minded, but I've since seen some great wheels in the £400 price range, brands like ZCW and Wolfrace - are they any good?.  I simply can't run to £500-600; I'll note your advice about quality, though.

 

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

Tell you what... I will help you out and give you £200 for the Themistos

 

Then you can afford the £600 wheels ;)

Glad we're helping your thought process...I quite fancied some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-BLACK-LM-ALLOY-WHEELS-FITS-VW-VOLKSWAGEN-CADDY-EOS-GOLF-MK5-MK6-JETTA-T4-/300820915439?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&fits=Car+Make%3ASkoda%7CModel%3ASuperb&hash=item460a52e4ef#ht_3607wt_1170  They're the right stud pattern but when I asked they needed a set of spacers to fit - not sure if that was just to fit my V6 or whether it was for any superb - but don't forget to ask about the need (or not) about spacers

 

...oh look, they're in the "£400 price range"....what a coincidence...

:D

From a bloke who owns a Vectra!? :D

Vectra and Superb :devil:

 

But I got lovely (and sexy) wife and that's what matters :yawn:

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Glad we're helping your thought process...I quite fancied some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-BLACK-LM-ALLOY-WHEELS-FITS-VW-VOLKSWAGEN-CADDY-EOS-GOLF-MK5-MK6-JETTA-T4-/300820915439?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&fits=Car+Make%3ASkoda%7CModel%3ASuperb&hash=item460a52e4ef#ht_3607wt_1170  They're the right stud pattern but when I asked they needed a set of spacers to fit - not sure if that was just to fit my V6 or whether it was for any superb - but don't forget to ask about the need (or not) about spacers

 

...oh look, they're in the "£400 price range"....what a coincidence...

 

Ha - I'm watching about 7 from that site!  These are the ones I'm currently drooling over: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400695720525?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Tell you what... I will help you out and give you £200 for the Themistos

 

 

 

Are you serious?  Given that peanut18 sold his (with rubber, admittedly) for £450, I think £200's a tad on the low side.  If I swapped the unused spare for one of the peeling ones, you'd have 1 brand new, 2 very good and one with a bit of lacquer peel.  You might want to see photos of course, but one possible deal is that I drive them up to Sheffield for you for £275 all in...

 

These are the ones I'm currently drooling over: http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

 

 

Hmmm...They look.......like they'd show any scratch and would be expensive to refurb.....if you got those you'd be parking so far away from the curb to avoid scratching them that you'd need to call a cab to take you to the pavement.....

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Rays alloys are very good as they are forged and not too expensive.

Yeah; when I started the thread I was genuinely open-minded, but I've since seen some great wheels in the £400 price range, brands like ZCW and Wolfrace - are they any good?.  I simply can't run to £500-600; I'll note your advice about quality, though.

 

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

No idea on ZCW, Wolfrace have been around for years though. I remember using them for rallying on a 1275GT as a teenager in the late 80's, as the minilites used to eventually buckle from getting airborne. :) so I assume from being around for ~30 years they must be doing something right ;)

I wouldn't worry about buying polished alloys like the ones in your link. If you coat them with a readily available sealant, and then top up every 4-6 months, you won't have any issues with brake dust/winter salt corrosion. Personally, a polished alloy looks just as bad as a painted alloy when damaged, so I don't get the logic behind staying away from them. The two Themisto alloys on mine that don't have pothole and keeping damage look as good as new. The damaged ones also show no sign of the damage causing widespread delamination of the top coat.

cheers, Steve

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