Toyota auris hybrid

[Toxicvrs]

Everybody's entitled to their opinion, ive no problem with that. Horses for courses as we hear so often on here.

But youre just talking bull.

If theyre so cheap n nasty, make you look bankrupt etc etc. why did you buy one, let alone four?

Just makes no sense to me tbh. Like i say, everybody has their own opinion, but then theres just being rude and stuck up.

Unless you mean of course, business lease. Which you seem to think fools people into thinkin youve got plenty of money. Which it might do for a few people, but most will look straight through it to be fair.

I always remember Toyota plastics being of pretty poor quality but not seen a recent one cars change, can't judge all of a Skoda by your Fabia experiences

[fabiamk2SE]

I always remember Toyota plastics being of pretty poor quality but not seen a recent one cars change, can't judge all of a Skoda by your Fabia experiences

I havent been in a toyota for years tbh. They dont interest me that much haha.

Nah. But if i wasnt impressed with a car to that extent, i wouldnt go ahead and buy another 3 lol.

[Toxicvrs]

I havent been in a toyota for years tbh. They dont interest me that much haha.

Nah. But if i wasnt impressed with a car to that extent, i wouldnt go ahead and buy another 3 lol.

Hmm that reminds me I need to buy another Clio

[Phil-E]

My step father in law inherited a Yaris Hybrid from his late father.

 

It was a few years old and nothing broke on it.

 

It drove pretty well and I enjoyed the silence inside pottering around town. I could do a trip across town without the engine even kicking in.

 

The CVT can take a little getting used to - floor the throttle and the engine kicks in and just sits at the same revs as the car picks up speed.

 

Phil

[Latte]

My Missus has had an Auris Hybrid for a couple of years (old shape). For a car it's size it's staggeringly cheap to own, but not of course if you buy it new. You need to let the first owner take the hit of depreciation or you will wipe out any savings you make.

If you must have a new car that's cheap to own I would look for a slow depreciator, as this will be your highest running cost.

You also should be careful about choosing a hybrid. Hybrids win on mpg only if you live an urban existence. If you spend most time on the motorway a diesel makes more sense. If you don't then a modern diesel makes no sense at all and I speak from bitter experience.

Anyway shortly after she bought it I found I was borrowing SWMBO's hybrid all the time.

I couldn't care less how green it is or how many mpg it does (50-60) but it's nice to spend so little time and money filling it up, and paying zip for a road fund license is very nice too.

You sit in silence at junctions and slowly realise how last-century the surrounding vehicles are that have engines running when they are stationary.

Then there are the stop-start equipped cars that are dimming lights and cranking away every time they set off, and you realise how under-engineered they are too.

It's got a button to make it go better and then it puts down nearly 140 horses and hits 60 in under 10 secs.

It's got a button to travel in silence and you can really sneak up on people doing this.

It's got a button to engage cruise control. This cruise control though, keeps your speed downhill as well, by slowing you down and recovering the energy. In fact most of the time you use the brake pedal it does this too to slow you down. You begin to realise how last century friction brakes actually are, squeezing bits of rotating steel with grippy stuff glued on a steel pad ffs

[Toxicvrs]

My Missus has had an Auris Hybrid for a couple of years (old shape). For a car it's size it's staggeringly cheap to own, but not of course if you buy it new. You need to let the first owner take the hit of depreciation or you will wipe out any savings you make.

If you must have a new car that's cheap to own I would look for a slow depreciator, as this will be your highest running cost.

You also should be careful about choosing a hybrid. Hybrids win on mpg only if you live an urban existence. If you spend most time on the motorway a diesel makes more sense. If you don't then a modern diesel makes no sense at all and I speak from bitter experience.

Anyway shortly after she bought it I found I was borrowing SWMBO's hybrid all the time.

I couldn't care less how green it is or how many mpg it does (50-60) but it's nice to spend so little time and money filling it up, and paying zip for a road fund license is very nice too.

You sit in silence at junctions and slowly realise how last-century the surrounding vehicles are that have engines running when they are stationary.

Then there are the stop-start equipped cars that are dimming lights and cranking away every time they set off, and you realise how under-engineered they are too.

It's got a button to make it go better and then it puts down nearly 140 horses and hits 60 in under 10 secs.

It's got a button to travel in silence and you can really sneak up on people doing this.

It's got a button to engage cruise control. This cruise control though, keeps your speed downhill as well, by slowing you down and recovering the energy. In fact most of the time you use the brake pedal it does this too to slow you down. You begin to realise how last century friction brakes actually are, squeezing bits of rotating steel with grippy stuff glued on a steel pad ffs

Yes I remember hearing that the brakes were used so little as a result of this regen system that they started to corrode which shows how good these regen systems are at transferring energy whilst slowing the car down.

[Latte]

Yes I remember hearing that the brakes were used so little as a result of this regen system that they started to corrode which shows how good these regen systems are at transferring energy whilst slowing the car down.

You are correct. It is one of their few weaknesses. The brakes sometimes aren't used enough to be kept clean and may need replacing at 50k miles. SWMBO needed a front disc skim at 20k miles. FOC at a service of course.

I was talking to the service manager and he told me that Toyota are very proud that they have never had a drivetrain failure on a hybrid.

They are seeing a rapid take up of hybrids by taxi drivers who have been stung by modern diesel syndrome (DMFs DPFs etc). Some of these hybrid taxis have passed a quarter of a million miles without problems. It's a simple equation really, the engine runs half the time so lasts twice as long.

[Toxicvrs]

You are correct. It is one of their few weaknesses. The brakes sometimes aren't used enough to be kept clean and may need replacing at 50k miles. SWMBO needed a front disc skim at 20k miles. FOC at a service of course.

I was talking to the service manager and he told me that Toyota are very proud that they have never had a drivetrain failure on a hybrid.

They are seeing a rapid take up of hybrids by taxi drivers who have been stung by modern diesel syndrome (DMFs DPFs etc). Some of these hybrid taxis have passed a quarter of a million miles without problems. It's a simple equation really, the engine runs half the time so lasts twice as long.

For a taxi a DMF is a yearly occurrence! Might look into something either full electric or hybrid in the near future!

[Olly87]

Worked as a technician for Toyota for 3 years and the hybrids are bullet proof! I left as the new auris came out but pdi'd a few and they seemed pretty good. I do prefer the old shape or the yaris on price and looks personally. 

 

We maintained many prius taxis as some one above said very reliable and cheap to run, apart from the brakes! Lol 

 

Olly 

[JoshH]

Had one as a hire car

Averaged 72mpg around town and 60 on motorway hack.

Very odd how the engine revs up when it kicks in!!

Quite liked it to be fair

[fabiamk2SE]

Had one as a hire car

Averaged 72mpg around town and 60 on motorway hack.

Very odd how the engine revs up when it kicks in!!

Quite liked it to be fair

Is the engine stone cold when it first kicks in then? Even though youve done several miles already?

[JoshH]

Yes, I guess...

If you go beyond half throttle (or beyond Eco zone on the 'rev' counter) or over 20mph it cuts in.

If you're flat out to overtake it basically just red lines itself. Such a strange feeling.

[fabiamk2SE]

Yes, I guess...

If you go beyond half throttle (or beyond Eco zone on the 'rev' counter) or over 20mph it cuts in.

If you're flat out to overtake it basically just red lines itself. Such a strange feeling.

Ah right. I see

But im against redlining cold engines haha. N if thats the case, itd never be warm?

[oilburninnut]

Everybody's entitled to their opinion, ive no problem with that. Horses for courses as we hear so often on here.

But youre just talking bull.

If theyre so cheap n nasty, make you look bankrupt etc etc. why did you buy one, let alone four?

Just makes no sense to me tbh. Like i say, everybody has their own opinion, but then theres just being rude and stuck up.

Unless you mean of course, business lease. Which you seem to think fools people into thinkin youve got plenty of money. Which it might do for a few people, but most will look straight through it to be fair.

ok for those not quite so quick on the uptake I will explain, I have owned 4 skodas, not fabia mk2 or later, the car I have a problem with is the mk2 fabia, and I stand by everything I have said about them they are ugly in a way nothing else in the vag range is and they feel like nothing else in the group, it is almost like they made it in China. If you own one I can understand you feel butthurt but that doesn't make me wrong or telling lies for you to call bull on.

[JoshH]

Well, it appears they're bullet proof!

I really enjoyed it and was amazed at their depreciation after 1 year though!!

It was certainly a surprise seeing the auris dropped off instead of the usual focus I get!

Pulling off totally silently is novel! Nearly ran someone over doing so!

[TrevorB33]

I paid 10600 for a two year old one with 3year warranty left from a main dealer, which iirc is a bargain compared there 20k new, this was an old shape one though, they are good value for money, but like has been said if you do a lot of motorway journeys there not the best on mpg, but around town are great, and as said no dpf's etc to worry about

[Ootohere]

Can anyone comment please.

?

What is the situation with the batteries,

in the first 3 Years,  or 3 - 6 year old car.

 

Reliability, Replacement Cost, Warranty etc with them.   Is there issues, and whats the likely expense say of one after 5 years old?

 

george

[Toxicvrs]

Can anyone comment please.

?

What is the situation with the batteries,

in the first 3 Years, or 3 - 6 year old car.

Reliability, Replacement Cost, Warranty etc with them. Is there issues, and whats the likely expense say of one after 5 years old?

george

Same running gear as a Prius which is mechanically solid and ten year old examples are still going well.

[fabiamk2SE]

Same running gear as a Prius which is mechanically solid and ten year old examples are still going well.

Itll be an expensive do if they do go wont it!

[mikey vrs]

A guy at work has a 60 plate & has had it from new,he was told recently when it was in for a service that the batteries have a 10 year life & will cost approx £3k to replace them,not sure if this is true or they were trying to scare him into buying a new car!   He has been happy with his & has had no problems at all with it. 

[Latte]

Is the engine stone cold when it first kicks in then? Even though youve done several miles already?

No, the engine starts and runs to warm up.

The electric motor drives the car while the engine quickly warms through at idle.

It does this with a different fuel/ignition map to make it economical, which is how it achieves 50 mpg even with a cold engine.

If you floor it though from a cold start, it has to map for using the engine to drive and you suffer the low mpg that petrol engines normally have from cold.

[fabiamk2SE]

No, the engine starts and runs to warm up.

The electric motor drives the car while the engine quickly warms through at idle.

It does this with a different fuel/ignition map to make it economical, which is how it achieves 50 mpg even with a cold engine.

If you floor it though from a cold start, it has to map for using the engine to drive and you suffer the low mpg that petrol engines normally have from cold.

Ahh thats much more clever!

I had images of redlining a cold engine everytime i wanted to overtake. I'm not into that! Haha.

Cheers.

[Latte]

Can anyone comment please.

?

What is the situation with the batteries,

in the first 3 Years,  or 3 - 6 year old car.

 

Reliability, Replacement Cost, Warranty etc with them.   Is there issues, and whats the likely expense say of one after 5 years old?

 

george

Hi George, Toyotas have 5 year bumper to bumper warranties. Some parts of the hybrid system have longer warranties but this varies with model and year so is worth checking very carefully. Toyota offer a hybrid health check with annual servicing which extends the hybrid system warranty as long as the service history is complete.

As stated the battery life is expected to be 10 years but a Toyota technician I spoke to said his dealership had never changed one. It is said that a new battery might be £2k but I believe it's possible to get a significant amount back for the old one from Toyota on a service exchange basis.

There are also battery reconditioning specialists springing up who replace dead cells in hybrid batteries, like companies have been doing in fork lift truck and industrial electric truck batteries for decades. This sort of reconditioning is likely to be hundreds, not thousands of pounds.

There are lots of people who worry over the cost of the battery, but the first years depreciation on a new hybrid would be a much bigger number.

SWMBO bought a £22k hybrid at 2 years old for under £11k and will run it to 5 years and £6k.

[olegoleg24]

Hello, can anyone help please, struggling to find decent priced rear headrest for my 2013 auris (Mk2). Does anyone know from which other model i can use headrests on my car? Thank you for your time.

[S00perb]

1 hour ago, olegoleg24 said:

Hello, can anyone help please, struggling to find decent priced rear headrest for my 2013 auris (Mk2). Does anyone know from which other model i can use headrests on my car? Thank you for your time.

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