This must have gone in some time yesterday afternoon. There is a slow puncture, deflating to about 20 PSI overnight. The tyre has loads left in it, is this repairable?

No its too close to the sidewall

I would have said too close to the edge too. :-(

Cheers

Rog

Had mine repaired recently but the nail was much more central. Kwik fit cost was £25.

I'd say not... Looks too close to the sidewall for repair.

take it and ask!

Try this...

http://www.etyres.co.uk/repairable-area-gauge

Providing there is no sidewall damage to the inside I can really see why it won't repair.

 

Tyre places would sooner sell you a new tyre, possibly repair yours and sell it on second hand.  My Local tyre place can get " Specialist repairs done, they send the tyre away to be repaired. Not all that much more but a more permanent repair.

Try this...

http://www.etyres.co.uk/repairable-area-gauge

Thanks... this seems to indicate it is too close to the edge (by about 5 mm).

Now I need to find the quickest way of getting a new Vector 4Season.

Try to find a local tyre fitter I had one same place few months ago local chap fixed £10 had no problems at all.

Providing there is no sidewall damage to the inside I can really see why it won't repair.

 

Tyre places would sooner sell you a new tyre, possibly repair yours and sell it on second hand.  My Local tyre place can get " Specialist repairs done, they send the tyre away to be repaired. Not all that much more but a more permanent repair.

I have no doubt that it "could" be repaired but that doesn't mean that it "should" repaired. The section of the tyre defined in guides like the one quoted is the section that can be safely repaired using a plug repair which is what tyre shops generally offer. Anything that is outside this section has to repaired using heat vulcanising and the equipment needed for that is very expensive so most tyre shops would not buy it. You may be able to find somewhere that has this equipment but even then they might only offer the service for truck/bus tyres as after a tyre has been heat vulcanised it effects the quality of the tyre and they could not be used to the same speed rating as before the repair so therefore can be considered unsafe for most cars. If you can find somebody who can repair car tyres outside the area be vary aware that the integrity of the tyre may be compromised. By this stage you will be way beyond the £15-25 plug repair cost anyway!

Cheers

Rog

do you mean a straight forward plug ?, usually a mushroom headed plug is thought to be the best without heat treatment etc

I have no doubt that it "could" be repaired but that doesn't mean that it "should" repaired. The section of the tyre defined in guides like the one quoted is the section that can be safely repaired using a plug repair which is what tyre shops generally offer. Anything that is outside this section has to repaired using heat vulcanising and the equipment needed for that is very expensive so most tyre shops would not buy it. You may be able to find somewhere that has this equipment but even then they might only offer the service for truck/bus tyres as after a tyre has been heat vulcanised it effects the quality of the tyre and they could not be used to the same speed rating as before the repair so therefore can be considered unsafe for most cars. If you can find somebody who can repair car tyres outside the area be vary aware that the integrity of the tyre may be compromised. By this stage you will be way beyond the £15-25 plug repair cost anyway!

Cheers

Rog

 

Good read, in my early days I worked for 9 years at Kennng tyre services, although tyre tecnology has improved some what, the basic design/build of Radial tyres  has  remained the same, materials may different but the construction is the same. Specialist repaires were common place, Having said that may be the cost of a specisalist repair today is off set by the price of some budget tyres.

I had one in a similar place & had it repaired. It was a brand new (well 500 miles old) tyre, so really didn't want to fork out for a new tyre. I put it on the back so the cornering forces are not as servere. The tyre has now done 12,000 miles with no problem.

But as with most things it's up to you.

Maybe its me, but for the sake of £100 is it really worth the risk ?  I value the life of my wife, children, grandchildren and passengers over the additonal £100 cost.

I had a puncture repaired a couple of weeks ago, which originally looked exactly like the one in the original post. The chap who did the repair glued the puncture up on the inside using a special patch and glue. Before applying glue he had worked on the place with a straight grinder. Then let the glue cure a bit, put the patch on it and pressed it down using a pess. I guess the procedure is fairly standard as I have seen used tires with similar patches in similar places. As long as the carcass is intact (there are no bruises and the like) a repair like this should be safe, I think.

Maybe its me, but for the sake of £100 is it really worth the risk ?  I value the life of my wife, children, grandchildren and passengers over the additonal £100 cost.

Could you? Possibly. Would I? No!

I have seen worse repaired but up to you, if it hasn't damaged any wires in the carcass then it is a straightforward plug the gap with, as has been said, a mushroom headed plug to keep it safe and secure.

Ian

I had a puncture repaired a couple of weeks ago, which originally looked exactly like the one in the original post. The chap who did the repair glued the puncture up on the inside using a special patch and glue. Before applying glue he had worked on the place with a straight grinder. Then let the glue cure a bit, put the patch on it and pressed it down using a pess. I guess the procedure is fairly standard as I have seen used tires with similar patches in similar places. As long as the carcass is intact (there are no bruises and the like) a repair like this should be safe, I think.

 as you are in Moscow a patch seems to be acceptable, but here in the united kingdom, a puncture can only be legaly repaired using a mushroom plug.

 as you are in Moscow a patch seems to be acceptable, but here in the united kingdom, a puncture can only be legaly repaired using a mushroom plug.

True.  In the UK a patch is only legal on a car tyre with an inner tube (which virtually none are now!).  In addition, the grinding that was done in the tyre will weaken it further.

 

Mushroom plugs are the accepted and simplest repair - but - these cannot be done too near the edge of the tyre.

 

Cheers

 

Rog

Repairable in my opinion.

These are short screws,I dont think it went through.

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It could be repaired but isn't it up to the tyre shop if it's safe to do so or not

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It could be repaired but isn't it up to the tyre shop if it's safe to do so or not

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Exactly, when I repair a tyre it's my liability and my decision. I'm not risking someone's life if the repair has the possibility to be unsafe.

True.  In the UK a patch is only legal on a car tyre with an inner tube (which virtually none are now!).  In addition, the grinding that was done in the tyre will weaken it further.

 

As far as I understand, it was only the airtight inner liner (which carries no load) that was ground. I had no choice but to have the tire repaired anyway as it was some 2000 km from home. And I thought that a patch would be more reliable than a simple plug. The tire has already gone more than 2000 km since the repair. Will see how long it lasts. No visible issues so far. 

In any case, I think it was safer to have the tire repaired than to go on driving with a screw in it, as I noticed the screw only by chance: there were no signs of it, the tire held pressure like new.

The screw definitely went through, hence the slow leak.  I thought about having a go at it myself, using the puncture repair kit I have for my motorcycle tyres (mushroom bungs) but, as mentioned above, for the sake of my family's safety I have ordered a new tyre.