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hey rounders, I agree but some on here bitch they cant get the factory advertised 56mpg.

I accept i cant. i have fat tyres and use the aircon often.

i think high 40's is good from a 120bhp 1.2 - i used to get the exact same mpg from a 60bhp 1.2.

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hey rounders, I agree but some on here bitch they cant get the factory advertised 56mpg.

I accept i cant. i have fat tyres and use the aircon often.

i think high 40's is good from a 120bhp 1.2 - i used to get the exact same mpg from a 60bhp 1.2.

Completely agree - mid to high 40s is very good for the car and good value for the driver.

Even with some spirited driving, constant AC use, lots of local driving and use of cruise control, my MPG per tank has settled at the 45 mark, which is good value. Cost-wise, it's no more expensive to run fuel-wise than the diesel I had before it, averaging out at just over 12p a mile.

My last car was a 1.6 turbo diesel, and that only managed very low 50s (factory claim was 62, closest I ever managed was 57) - albeit with climate control running and big 17inch rims.

Driving home from work yesterday with my car which had 50 miles on it and the engine was cold I was getting 45mpg.

 

My drive home consists of driving round an industrial estate, onto a 60mph road for a mile with a 30mph bend at the bottom, accelerate for a bit then up to a roundabout, after this its another long straight then a 40mph bend up to a roundabout, into my estate then round to my house and into the drive. Total distance is 3.5 miles.

 

The same drive in the Honda with 16000 miles on it was giving me 32mpg

3.5 miles? You'll kill the engine way before its time, it'll rarely get properly warmed up.

 

With such a convoluted road route, do you have a more direct route you can walk/cycle :angel: ?

3.5 miles? You'll kill the engine way before its time, it'll rarely get properly warmed up.

 

With such a convoluted road route, do you have a more direct route you can walk/cycle :angel: ?

 

Or use a naturally aspirated engined car for the sort journeys, ie I use a Fabia HTP or a Corsa/Spark with a one litre engine that warms in less than a mile or my Dacia 0.9 litre also warms up quickly.  All also do around 50 mpg on a run, low 40s round town but can cruise at 70 mph.  

Best not to use a larger turbo engined cars as the oil will never get warm.  As Castrol said, more wear in the first two minutes of a cold engine than 2 hours of a warm engine.  

Lol-lol - interesting to see you went for the TCe 90 Logan in the end instead of the Spaceback (I was planning to buy the TCe 90 Logan, but needed a replacement car faster than Renault could provide the Logan, so ended up with the Spaceback).

Will be interested to hear how you get on with the engine, while I liked it, have heard lots of people moaning about a real lack of power and snail-like performance over 50mph - though still producing reasonable fuel economy even without using the Eco button.

Did you get the Laureate spec?

I can't really add to this thread with better or worse figures, mine are more or less what other folk are getting early to mid 40's just doing local runs.

 

As I have said before, it's only doing around 10mpg  less than my 1ltr Citigo did. I am hugely impressed with mine and how it performs.

 

 

Slightly off topic my mate was looking at a Kia Picanto (new or newish) and was put off by the boot size. I opened my hatch last night to stick some stuff in and he couldn't believe the size of the load area. He does a daily commute of around 50 miles and needs from time to time a large ish size boot, I said look no further, forget the Picanto get yourself over to Skoda or a Seat dealer. He's having a rethink now.

Lol-lol - interesting to see you went for the TCe 90 Logan in the end instead of the Spaceback (I was planning to buy the TCe 90 Logan, but needed a replacement car faster than Renault could provide the Logan, so ended up with the Spaceback).  Will be interested to hear how you get on with the engine, while I liked it, have heard lots of people moaning about a real lack of power and snail-like performance over 50mph - though still producing reasonable fuel economy even without using the Eco button.

Did you get the Laureate spec?

 

I was lucky that my very nice garage, who had just swapped from Skoda to Dacia/Renault because SUK were being more and more dictatorial on sales even though their customer satisfaction was near perfect so it was a perfect time for me to switch to Dacia.

 

The 90 hp petrol turbo is an absolute gem, similar of course to the 86 hp TSI engine which I always thought was excellent.  It gets to 60 in a little over 10 seconds, with Eco button off, which is not too shabby, and gets to 80 mph, in third quite rapidly.  Power spread is probably slightly less  of a good spread than the 1.2 TSI engines.  Dacia/Renault say 90% of torque is from 1700 rpm but you can notice it pulls better from 2k or best from 2.5k where it peaks and the power starts to become meaningful and you can rev it to just over 6k revs.  I do find it myself bouncing off the rev limiter occasionally as I am not yet use to the 3 cylinder engine and therefore I am thinking it is only doing 5K revs but is actually hitting 6.5K and the ignition limiter is stopping further revving.  Cruises at 75 with 3k revs on the tacho doing 50 mpg with the Eco button on.

 

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Dear Renault (parent company to the Romanian based Dacia):
 
Please tell all the other car companies how you manage to do this so they can do the same and we can all save a fortune?  
If I needed a runaround, there is no question I would buy this car above any other on the market today.  
There’s absolutely no point in spending more (and often double) for similar vehicles from the famous marques when you just don’t have to.   

3.5 miles? You'll kill the engine way before its time, it'll rarely get properly warmed up.

 

With such a convoluted road route, do you have a more direct route you can walk/cycle :angel: ?

 

 

Maybe if that's all the driving I did but it would be silly to even own a car that got that little use :o

 

 

It's a straight main road with no pavement. I drive this road 5 times a week each way - in between it gets longer journeys - i.e. I drove to Aberdeen and back on Friday, 126 miles each way

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Done 39 miles tonight with lights,wipers and aircon all on and it's showing on the gauge as using a quarter of a tank[emoji15][emoji15] to do this journey. It was all town with light traffic and only getting up to 40 mph briefly.

I,m just over half full now with a range showing 240 miles left. I wasn't even driving it hard. Surely this can't be right?

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Thought so. Here we go again [emoji35]

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Yes quite. I thought things were going too well [emoji6]

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Any news about the Blue Meanie?

Any news about the Blue Meanie?

 

They won a sweeping election victory (well 36.9% of the vote) and are set fair for 5 years.  Cameron and Osborne pictured below after the french kiss.

 

 

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My Dacia petrol is doing 53 mpg, driven fast much of the time  (got it to 107 mph ((on private roads of course)) had the range up to 750 miles when poodling.  

Glad I went for the Dacia rather than the Rapid as well as having spent (much) less on getting it too.

53 mpg out of any petrol is good.

 

especially since I have to start paying for it again now :(

53 mpg out of any petrol is good.

 

especially since I have to start paying for it again now :(

 

You'll miss paying a couple of quid a gallon (one of those small US gallons being about 4 litres)

 

I am lucky to still have the Fuel card as the company has been doing a review of it but I think it is a win win situation for them too.  So for me fuel is 40% of the going rate ie about 45p a litre or £2 a gallon, better than the Fabia 2 VRS's low-40s mpg and super unleaded fuel but miss the horsepower of course.  Just need the Euro to go further south and the price of European mainland cars to follow.

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I haven't done anything about mine. 2nd time can I really go through all that again?

I'm just "driving " about at the moment. Anything under under half tank and the gauge doesn't play up. Anything over half and less than three quarters it will drunk that away in no time. Gauge characteristic or a problem?

God knows. It's a stupid damn car :(

Does it stay between half and empty longer than you think it should? ie if it drops quickly from full to half then it should slow down once it gets to the half way mark if it looks ok then.

 

What I'm trying to say is that it's not burning or peeing petrol during the first half a tank so it's still in the tank, just not registering correctly when first filled.

 

 

Can someone put what I've written into English please as this still reads like gibberish to me?  :whew:

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I understand that ok :)

When it was just under half the other week I put £20 in and it took it to just past three quarters on the gauge. I drunk all that in a space of 39 miles then the gauge slowed right up to its previous position before the £20 went in. I got about 120 miles from that £20 in all.

My Citigo was similar to this where It would sit at full for over 100 miles and then would go down really quick after that. I've just filled it up to brim tonight £39 all in and with a range of 435 miles. I'll see how that goes.

I understand that ok :)

When it was just under half the other week I put £20 in and it took it to just past three quarters on the gauge. I drunk all that in a space of 39 miles then the gauge slowed right up to its previous position before the £20 went in. I got about 120 miles from that £20 in all.

My Citigo was similar to this where It would sit at full for over 100 miles and then would go down really quick after that. I've just filled it up to brim tonight £39 all in and with a range of 435 miles. I'll see how that goes.

 

I think this is a quirk with the fuel tank, mine does the same, mine is a diesel and it will sit at full for about 200km then go to half full very quickly, I dont mind it though as I get 1100km from a full tank :)

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I just run it till the fuel light comes on every time (at 65 miles to go), takes about 7 working days, what the gauge says in the meantime never registers on me.

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I think I'm going to buy a V6 Superb as its more economical haha.

From brimmed last night until now I've done 66 miles and it's gone down to three quarters full :(

Clear roads to Southampton today keeping at 50 mph showing 52 mpg instant reading and the range went up to 505 miles left from 420 miles but used a quarter of a tank for so little mileage. It isn't right as it was popping up and down on the gauge. Disgraceful car for sure. Also both my N/S door speakers have started vibrating too :(

I'm really lumbered with this thing with no way out :(

Let it run and see how many miles you get out of it before the red light comes on - yes you shouldn't have to but unless there's a strong smell of petrol right after filling up, the petrol should still be in the tank albeit just not registering properly. I think I was just over 500 miles when the red light came on the other day

 

If you're still getting what you think you should out of a tank of petrol then just do what Homer Simpson does and put some black tape over the gauge so you're not constantly checking it. ;)

I think I'm going to buy a V6 Superb as its more economical haha.

From brimmed last night until now I've done 66 miles and it's gone down to three quarters full :(

Clear roads to Southampton today keeping at 50 mph showing 52 mpg instant reading and the range went up to 505 miles left from 420 miles but used a quarter of a tank for so little mileage. It isn't right as it was popping up and down on the gauge. Disgraceful car for sure. Also both my N/S door speakers have started vibrating too :(

I'm really lumbered with this thing with no way out :(

 

Have they changed the fuel gauge as well yet?

 

Does the road between STN and BOH have lots of slowing and accelerating from roundabouts as that does not help fuel consumption at all.

 

Can you do a vented fill on the Rapid ie depress a button on the neck of the filler to allow some filling of the expansion chamber?

 

My experience with pretty much all Skoda and most other cars is that they do not move from full for 75-100 miles if you continue to add a few more litres after the first click off.

 

Dacia say do not do more than two adds after first click. With the Fabia VRS I would add as much as 5 litres after the first click which is fine if you are doing a reasonable ie 25 mile journey just after fill and not partking if a super hot spot.

 

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