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It's still bad when my friend gets an all time calculated 52mpg from a 2.0tsi vRS [emoji19]

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  • I believe that you keep focusing on the wrong thing (gauge position) and still ignoring what's really important (avg consumption).   Anyway, when you refuel the car, you will be a able to calculate

  • Yeh poss its like everything though, its how you drive it. If you want to do 70-80 on the motorway the diesel im sure will be WAYYYYY ahead of the tsi. However i reckon at 55-60 there won't be much in

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It's still bad when my friend gets an all time calculated 52mpg from a 2.0tsi vRS [emoji19]

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Browsing vehicles on Fuelly it appears low to mid 30's is the usual return from a 2.0TSi vRS Octavia. Diesel vRS's struggle to better 50 mpg.

 

Not doubting the veracity of your friends MPG, but it certainly appears exceptional. 

Mine is going in for its first service next month, will be curious to see if that has any impact on fuel economy.

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Browsing vehicles on Fuelly it appears low to mid 30's is the usual return from a 2.0TSi vRS Octavia. Diesel vRS's struggle to better 50 mpg.

Not doubting the veracity of your friends MPG, but it certainly appears exceptional.

He's got a good one by the looks of it. Usually getting mid 40,s to low 50,s [emoji106]

Lucky him [emoji57]

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Mine worked out overall to be 45mpg which I think is terrible for a small 1.2 engine. My friends 2.0tsi does way more than this [emoji19]

Appalling car so far.

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I did actually think mine was doing well until I looked at the official stats. 55.4 for the combined figure. Ain't had anywhere near that. Getting 50 mpg for reasonably short runs though

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This has to be due to the weather I hope [emoji6]

My Octy tdi used to love the cold weather and give me a good fuel return. Just noticed diesel is down to 119 tonight. I got rid of my Octavia because it was 147 last year [emoji19]

Oh well springs coming !!

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We've got petrol @£1.09 per litre here, diesel around 5-6p more.

This has to be due to the weather I hope [emoji6]   My Octy tdi used to love the cold weather and give me a good fuel return. Just noticed diesel is down to 119 tonight. I got rid of my Octavia because it was 147 last year [emoji19]   Oh well springs coming !!

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Plenty of places where petrol is 8 pence a litre cheaper than diesel so that is a plus for petrol over diesel (sadly I am meant to use 98 Octane which is only a couple of pence cheaper than diesel).   Having a Rapid tempts me with the bigger fuel tank and better aerodynamics than the Fabia plus much bigger boot.

 

I feel much better when the my computer shows over 40 mpg average and if I went for the Rapid petrol DSG it would be over the 50 mpg that would keep me smiling or over 60 mpg if I went for the diesel DSG.

 

To get it up that extra one or two MPG to be happier I occasionally review how the vehicle is setup.  Am I carrying loads of unnecessary weight in the boot, I find myself carrying volumes of customs tariffs and law books which weight tens of kilos.  When did I last top up the tyres pressures.  When temperature drops the tyre pressure drop 0.1 bar per 10c of ambient temperature approximately.  I should be running 0.1 or so higher with the winter tyres to keep the tread pattern open.  I am about half as heavy again as an average person and many of the journeys over Xmas I will be carrying one to three extra pasengers with all their clober so should I be upping the tyre pressures by 0.3 bar anyways to be right?

 

Happy hyper-miling at least fuel is cheaper.

This has to be due to the weather I hope [emoji6]

My Octy tdi used to love the cold weather and give me a good fuel return. Just noticed diesel is down to 119 tonight. I got rid of my Octavia because it was 147 last year [emoji19]

Oh well springs coming !!

Ouch - Diesel must be exceptionally expensive where you are? In the three years I had the diesel C4 (August 2011-September 2014) the most I paid for diesel per litre was 145.9 per litre and that was for a very brief period in early 2013 (and again during in the same period on 2012). In both instances my purchase price per litre fell very quickly from those highs down to the low 130s.

Last petrol fill-up at the local Sainsbury's came in at 111.9.

Knew Fuelly would come in handy one day.

I've been toying with getting the winter grill guard that SuperSkoda sells for the Rapid. I used to have the equivalent for the diesel C4 and it did make a difference, but I'm mindful that Citroen recommended its use only on diesel cars and wonder if such a thing would adversely affect a turbo petrol car rather than help it in getting up to and maintaining a good operating temperature in winter.

From my 105 TSi Sport, I've had 39,38 and 36 mpg over a tankful worked out properly. Not great but not terrible either. There is a solid 43mpg there in waiting should the right route come up.

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Well been in the dealers today for the 2nd time for the dodgy fuel gauge. Luckily the fitter and the service manager saw it moving all over the place. Put on VAS and came back no fault found again. They have now sent the block tests to Skoda Technical and are waiting a reply. They've only one more chance to do this otherwise I'm rejecting the car which tbh there will be no love lost.

Shame you're having so many problems. Fingers crossed for you.

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My money is on the tank sender unit which they won't replace (yet) as it comes up with no error code. It's also the cars main fuel pump too from the tank at a £200+ cost [emoji15]

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Now have to book it back in for the 3rd time.

SUK have advised them to do more block tests and test between the fuel sender and the fuel gauge with a view of replacing the instrument cluster which they were supposed to do the 1st time. More waiting to hear more BS again. This is there last chance and if not fixed I'm definitely rejecting it and will not want another Rapid for sure.

Now have to book it back in for the 3rd time.

SUK have advised them to do more block tests and test between the fuel sender and the fuel gauge with a view of replacing the instrument cluster which they were supposed to do the 1st time. More waiting to hear more BS again. This is there last chance and if not fixed I'm definitely rejecting it and will not want another Rapid for sure.

 

Suggest you demand a courtesy car whilst they fix yours (no more faffing around in and out of the dealer) and give them a time frame when it will be returned fixed. It's the only way to go really, be firm but polite.

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Thanks Mick. I have been so far [emoji6]

I get a courtesy car everytime. It's booked in on Thursday 22nd Jan for 2 days again. They've got to test for resistance between sender and gauge and earth points then decide what needs to be replaced. I'm not holding my breath at all as this was all supposed to be done the 1st time round.

If the machine says not [emoji19]

I've heard that BS so many times now but 2 of them have witnessed the fluctuating whilst the car is stationary [emoji57]

Achieved my worst tank since new this week at just over 46mpg, mind I did quite a few miles today in the strong wind which won't have helped. 

 

 

TP

Filled up on Wednesday, Fuelly logged my mpg on the last tank at 42.6 - not good. My worst is still 38mpg (from the preceding tank).

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Terrible from a tiny 1.2 engine. Apparently the new Fabia 1.2 can achieve 60 mpg.

I don't believe all of SUK,s BS anymore.

On the plus side, with such poor fuel consumption it means we are doing our bit to increase global warming, so we'll have a good summer :)

Terrible from a tiny 1.2 engine. Apparently the new Fabia 1.2 can achieve 60 mpg.

I don't believe all of SUK,s BS anymore.

 

I don't know -

 

my old  60bhp FIAT 1.2 averaged about 49 mpg in summer and 44 winter

and my 120bhp VW 1.2 averages about 49 mpg in summer and 44 winter.

 

whats bad about that?

 

SUK is far from the only company exploting the euro mpg system to publish figures which are very difficult to match.

 

There is one on here getting 55 on Fuelly from a 1.2tsi rapid - pretty much matching the claimed numbers.

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There seem to be a few unrealistic expectations on here - 32.7 mpg for my last fuel up and and 38 mpg average (Fuelly link below). Surely not wholly unreasonable for a largish car with a huge boot!

My car is mainly used for short distance urban commuting and the maxidot tells me I'm averaging just 17 mph over the last 2000 miles.

I'm not too concerned at the MPG, especially given the car has returned a best of 46 mpg, so can be economical on longer / faster journeys.

I suspect the recent cold weather plays a large part. The water temp is up to an indicated 90 degrees within a few miles, but the oil temp lags significantly.

Some magazines issue a True MPG figure which is worth taking note of.   All internal combustion engine cars do much less mpg in the warm up phase than the published warmed up operation figures car companies quote.

 

Even the 1.2 TSI takes a while to warm up, probably twice as long approx, than the HTP engine.  If you are mainly doing short trips in a turbo car you will spend much of the journey bringing the engine up to operating temperature.

 

My solution has been to ask to use on the member of the families city car ie one litre natural aspirated engine, toastie within a mile and keep the turbo (with supercharger too) car for journeys over 3 miles or so where it get a change to warm up.

 

Not only that but the exhuast system and many other compenents will get properly warm and not burn out so quick.

Terrible from a tiny 1.2 engine. Apparently the new Fabia 1.2 can achieve 60 mpg.

I don't believe all of SUK,s BS anymore.

 

The Fabia III 1.2TSI is not the same engine as in the current Rapid.

 

Can only assume the original 1.2TSI has not been considered as economical as hoped, as it's only been in production since late 2009 and already replaced by an engine with 16 valves and a cam belt rather than 8 valves and a cam chain.

 

Be interesting to see if the new motor produces better real world mpg in the Fabia III.

 

 

TP

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The best this thing could do tonight. 20 miles at 50 mph constant with no braking,no heating on and headlights on [emoji19]

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I think I should buy my mates 2.0tsi vRS as he's getting 49 to 52 mpg at the moment [emoji57]

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