My VRS already had budget Nexen shoes, puncture on ROS and bulging on RNS meant a new pair. I went for budget Lanvigators at £55 a corner as I couldn't really afford anything else at the moment.

Now the car skidded at 30mph on a roundabout and im ****ting myself. Is it just because both rears are new or the brand? It's been under 24hrs since I got them done.

I know on a motorbike you should take the first 100 miles carefully as they are super slippy when new. I'd expect the same of car tyres but it's not as noticeable when you're not at risk of falling off...

 

It was also about 4'C tonight on my way home around Cambridge so a combination of cheap new rubber and cold, damp conditions would provoke some tyre slip.

You get what you pay for I'm afraid, 

Have you checked that the pressures are correct as I'm sure the tyre fitters won't have?

you always get what you pay for - my favourite universal tyre is Continental WinterContact TS800/850.

 

Best grip you can get on wet road.

 

Stiff side walls for lots of high speed cornering fun.

 

It's slightly noisy under load.

 

Same fuel consumption (I drive 30k km per year and I don't see any difference)

 

It cost about 240€ per set with balancing and putting them on rim 60€/tyre ;-)

Its a cheap brand noone has ever heard of. They'll be cheap chinese plastic crap. But, new tyres will have some coating in releasing agent plus they will be smooth from the mould. Once roughed up a bit they should be a little better, but I wouldn't expect a lot.

Also, I usually would not put brand new tyres on the rear. 

 

Put them onto the front and move the worn ones to the rear. 

 

New tyres can sometimes be a little slippy, but I've not heard of those brand either. 

Thanks for the advice guys. Skidded again at 25mph on a roundabout on my way back. Do I have any scope at having these returned? I went to Arbury Fast Fit on Histon Road.

Initally you probably won't. 

 

I'd reccommend ensuring you have received what you payed for, that they're the correct size etc. Use anything you can to make the company you got them from give you your money back .

 

Give CAB a call and see what they suggest. 

Thanks, will do. They do say 225/40/18 on them...which is the right size...

Have two wheels with new tyres on to fit on the back of my car.  I'm going to be sticking the fronts on the back as they have scrubbed in new tyres.  I would much rather scrub in new tyres on the front axle, plus a skid is easily controlled on the front - but not as fun as oversteer of course.

Unfortunately the fact that they don't perform as well as you'd hoped is probably not going to wash as far as getting a refund is concerned

They'd probably have to be faulty to justify that, or be unfit for purpose in some other way

They might not be up to 30mph on a roundabout (depending on the size of it of course - Doesn't really tell us how hard you might have been trying to turn)

 

If wanting budget tyres, it would be best to review choices on www.tyrereviews.co.uk and then make a purchase based on best review VS price.  You really can't do much better than rely on other peoples' experiences to based your purchases.

Thanks for all your advice. It is really frustrating as it looks like I'm going to be out of pocket now.

 

The first roundabout was this: 

 

The second (at 25mph) was this:

 

 

Do I go back to the tyre fitters and see what they have to say?

Or order something from black circles and get them fitted?

Or just buy new ones from the tyre fitters and see if I can haggle a discount?

Edited 26 January, 201511 yr by fsa

I'd be tempted to do a front to back swap and scrub up the new tyres asap on the front axle.

okay, thanks, Jason. I'll do that asap.

Camskill.co.uk is the place where I got my tyres

£55 a corner for something never heard off is a joke I paid £50 Each fitted for some land sail ls something or other and they had good reviews as my car is only a 105 bhp I wernt to bothered but for £70 could of got some vredistines

My VRS already had budget Nexen shoes, puncture on ROS and bulging on RNS meant a new pair. I went for budget Lanvigators at £55 a corner as I couldn't really afford anything else at the moment.

Now the car skidded at 30mph on a roundabout and im ****ting myself. Is it just because both rears are new or the brand? It's been under 24hrs since I got them done.

There will be release compound on the tread that wouldn't help but that usually wears off in about 100km.

 

Unfortunately, after that, you'll have to drive to the ability of the tyre - which is probably adequate but about 30-50% less than a Michelin / Bridgestone, etc

Also, I usually would not put brand new tyres on the rear. 

 

Put them onto the front and move the worn ones to the rear. 

 

The common thinking now advises fitting new tyres to the rear of the car;

 

http://www.kwik-fit.com/tyre-rotation.asp

 

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/car-tyres.html

 

I would suggest that the reason for the skidding is due to one of or a combination of the following;

 

Cheap tyres that no-one has heard of

 

New tyres have not been scrubbed in and still have release compound on the treads

 

Mixing tyre manufacturers front and rear

 

I, for one, wouldn't risk my safety or the safety of anyone who is a passenger in my car by putting cheap tyres on.  There are only 4 relatively small contact patches between the tyres and the road and I want the best quality rubber I can get.  Just read some of the tyre reviews to see how much further cheap tyres take to stop in the wet and how ineffective they are at dealing with wet conditions.

Argh....based on what you guys have said, I am really scared now. I have made a very stupid mistake by being lured into the false confidence that the existing tyres were also budget. I have to do a few trips into London this week and really don't want to risk it, even if I do switch them to the front.

 

I'll just have to bite the bullet I guess and go for some Kumhos or Avon ZZ5s.

I can't believe a tyre fitter actually sold you anything that cheap without you really, really pressing them for 'the cheapest'

Piece of mind is everything in a car, and if you're scared rigid of it that will reflect in your driving

Think I'd find out if there EU rated.

And probably drop your speed round those roundabouts until you know you won't end up with oversteer, clipping a curb won't be a fun or cheap experience.

I agree with Mouldy. He talks so much sense.

You would have been better to take the car off the road, if at all possible, and pay the extra £20 or so per corner and not to compromise safety.

You might try going back to the tyre depot and claim "Not fit for the purpose" and see what they say

They are called ditch finders for a reason! I used to thing my octavia's handling war rubbish until i replaced my budget Avons with Dunlop Sportmaxx' then i could go twice as fast round roundabouts! Decent tyres are only a few quid more than budget ones really, and in the scale of things sooooo much better.

 

Front to back swap as already mentioned, the frotn will wear them out quicker too, 5x faster i was told once. Then put real tyres on. Black Circles is your friend in this case Id say.

Edited 27 January, 201511 yr by whitep