The 184 ps TDI is EU6 since quite recently. I think MY14 were still EU5.

Given the 150ps engine is the same aside from the injectors and map I don't understand how the 150ps isn't also Euro6 also... Obviously all of us with 150ps engines need to remap them to do our bit for the environment?

It's a bit more than that, it also includes changing the position of the catalyst, further up the exhaust nearer to the hot end, I.e. Closer to the exhaust outlets from the engine for example

According to effective March 2015 UK brochure (presumably MY15 still and taken with a 'pinch of salt') - all the engines are EU5 except 1.8 and 2.0 TSI and the 150PS and 184PS diesel engines in the Scout only. Probably changed now though anyway.

 

 

Scout is Euro6 but does not have Adblue.

 

 

Picked our MY15 150PS scout up yesterday so was wondering this, as just noticed it should be EU6 but no mention of adblue required by the dealer - guess the car will tell us if it needs it at any point!

Here, the environmental class (incl. Euro5/6) is written in the registration certificate. Don't you have the same in UK?

The 184 ps TDI is EU6 since quite recently. I think MY14 were still EU5.

That's right, they were EU5 in the Octavia vRS but EU6 in the Golf GTD, so the emissions were 119 (Octavia vRS), 109 (Golf GTD), and 110 (Octavia 150 TDi). I didn't find the extra power in the vRS was worth the extra CC tax over the TDi 150 hence another reason I discluded the vRS.

For those who are considering the purchase of a New Octavia, information from Skoda indicates that the 150ps engine will not require Adblue and all the bits that go with it.  All that is required is for the engineers to reduce the CO2 by 4Gms per Km,  which will then reduce it to 120 Gms per Km, it then it  becomes EU6.  Good news or what.  This means no tax the first year, and only £30 the following year.  This is in the 2.0 4x4 estate.  There is also the new May brochure out now.

For those who are considering the purchase of a New Octavia, information from Skoda indicates that the 150ps engine will not require Adblue and all the bits that go with it.  All that is required is for the engineers to reduce the CO2 by 4Gms per Km,  which will then reduce it to 120 Gms per Km, it then it  becomes EU6.  Good news or what.  This means no tax the first year, and only £30 the following year.  This is in the 2.0 4x4 estate.  There is also the new May brochure out now.

On the Skoda UK web site it's still showing the April brochure as a download :-(

3I had a deep and meaningful discussion with Skoda today and they could only see the April brochure also.  He then had a word with their web team and I was able to download the May when I got home.

3I had a deep and meaningful discussion with Skoda today and they could only see the April brochure also.  He then had a word with their web team and I was able to download the May when I got home.

We have a 63 plate 2.0TDi 4x4 Oct III and a 64 plate 2.0TDi Scout 150PS. Both are nominally 150PS TDi engines, the only specced difference is the EU5/EU6 change. The performance of the 4x4 is great but the Scout is even better.

This explains EU6 very well....

http://www.dieselcarmagazine.co.uk/features/euro-6-understanding-the-new-regulations/

This explains EU6 very well....

http://www.dieselcarmagazine.co.uk/features/euro-6-understanding-the-new-regulations/

So if the MY16 cars come with EU6 engines, but dont have AdBlue....will they really meet the EU6 requirements in terms of NOx reduction. If governments put limitations on cars entering cities (due to Diesel/NOx emmissions ) based on EU6 engines...would a MY16 without Adblue fulfill this.

So if the MY16 cars come with EU6 engines, but dont have AdBlue....will they really meet the EU6 requirements in terms of NOx reduction. If governments put limitations on cars entering cities (due to Diesel/NOx emmissions ) based on EU6 engines...would a MY16 without Adblue fulfill this.

Urea injection is only one of three ways to reduce the NOx coming out the back, so, yes, EU6 compliant engines will achieve the emission requirements.

Urea injection is only one of three ways to reduce the NOx coming out the back, so, yes, EU6 compliant engines will achieve the emission requirements.

So if the MY16 EU6 will meet the emmission requirements....then why the need to add the AdBlue on the Yeti now and on Octy in Sept?

So if the MY16 cars come with EU6 engines, but dont have AdBlue....will they really meet the EU6 requirements in terms of NOx reduction. If governments put limitations on cars entering cities (due to Diesel/NOx emmissions ) based on EU6 engines...would a MY16 without Adblue fulfill this.

If and engine does not meet EU6 requirements then it is not an EU6 engine, by definition. Meeting EU6 requirements is what makes an engine an EU6 engine.

 

So if the MY16 EU6 will meet the emmission requirements....then why the need to add the AdBlue on the Yeti now and on Octy in Sept?

Why do you think Octavias will need diesel exhaust fluid in September?

If and engine does not meet EU6 requirements then it is not an EU6 engine, by definition. Meeting EU6 requirements is what makes an engine an EU6 engine.

 

Why do you think Octavias will need diesel exhaust fluid in September?

http://www.skoda.ie/news/cleaner-fuel-efficient-152/

 

"The ever-popular ŠKODA Yeti in 2.0-litre TDI 110bhp & 150bhp guise are the first models in the ŠKODA range to benefit from AdBlue® technology, which drastically reduce NOx nitrogen oxide emissions to close to zero, in addition these engines have reduced both CO2 and fuel consumption, the 110bhp by 12% (4.5 l/100km on combined cycle)."

 

My reading from that & IIRC what a salesman told me (Octy September).....they will all eventually go AdBlue. Hence why I'm wondering if the EU6 non-AdBlue engines meet EU6 requirements, then why the need for AdBlue

The emissions are measured per km, so the emissions of an engine depend on the vehicle it's been placed in. A vehicle with low fuel consumption may meet the requirements, while another with the same engine but high fuel consumption may not meet them without taking additional measures.

Far from having a downer on Adblue - it may actually improve fuel economy somewhat as it means that combustion can be re-optimised towards efficiency and slightly away from avoiding NOx production.

I understand it may also improve the functioning of the DPF and mean less fuel is wasted clearing it.

Far from having a downer on Adblue - it may actually improve fuel economy somewhat as it means that combustion can be re-optimised towards efficiency and slightly away from avoiding NOx production.

I understand it may also improve the functioning of the DPF and mean less fuel is wasted clearing it.

 

That's correct, but you'll have to pay for the additive as well as fuel, cancelling out any saving.

True, I'd like to see the maths to see if it were more or less.

Adblue will plummet in price when it takes off.

It's only urea in distilled water.

Personally, I'd probably price-up making my own from lab/pharmaceutical grade urea.

... or making it from your own lab/pharmaceutal grade urea?

 

Cleaning diesel engines is really bringing us to the summum of technology...

So if the MY16 EU6 will meet the emmission requirements....then why the need to add the AdBlue on the Yeti now and on Octy in Sept?

Because there are other ways of meeting the EU6 emissions without using urea.

Because there are other ways of meeting the EU6 emissions without using urea.

I get that....but if you have met the requirements e.g. on a 2.0 Diesel RS with a EU6 engine WITHOUT AdBlue, then why would you need to bring out a 2.0 Diesel RS EU6 engine WITH AdBlue later in the year? (Assuming a future 2.0 diesel with AdBlue).

I get that....but if you have met the requirements e.g. on a 2.0 Diesel RS with a EU6 engine WITHOUT AdBlue, then why would you need to bring out a 2.0 Diesel RS EU6 engine WITH AdBlue later in the year? (Assuming a future 2.0 diesel with AdBlue).

Because the Yeti is shaped like a brick so would need the engine to work harder to get the same end result...hence higher emissions....???? Hence you need to do more to reduce them???? Same engine doesn't equal same emissions if it is inside a totally different vehicle...

 

No offence meant to Yeti owners!

I get that....but if you have met the requirements e.g. on a 2.0 Diesel RS with a EU6 engine WITHOUT AdBlue, then why would you need to bring out a 2.0 Diesel RS EU6 engine WITH AdBlue later in the year? (Assuming a future 2.0 diesel with AdBlue).

To bring the car into a lower tax band? Or to increase the power output without altering the tax band? Or a more cynical view - more items to replenish at service / more items to replace to maintain emissions later in its life i.e. MOT test or equivalent elsewhere will also require more stringent emissions test in the future.