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Good afternoon people.

 

Does anyone know what the skoda official acceptable oil consumption on a 2011 1.8 TSI Yeti is.  I am in discussions with a non skoda dealer who said 1l for every 1200 miles is acceptable.

 

I look forward to your responses

 

Many thanks T

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That is about the level that all OEMs claim is acceptable. I don't agree, but it seems to be an unwritten law that gets trotted out every time there's an oil consumption concern. By that factor, you are expected to top up your engine oil with up to 15 litres between longlife service intervals. Not much point changing the oil then, is there?!

You are unlikely to get anyone to agree that oil consumption is excessive if at or below that level.

Even though Owners Manuals can say, 

'May use as much as 0.5 litres 1000 km',   

And Skoda UK Customer Services and dealers try to say Within Tolerances,  they have now in hundreds of cases with the 1.8TSI, 

1.4TSI / TFSI Twinchargers and other had to accept it is not acceptable.

 

Official Oil Consumption tests have shown Oil consumption of 0.3 litres 1000 km (621 miles) and Skoda have had to fit replacement engines, 

as have VW, Seat & Audi.

 

If you have excessive Oil Consumption then raise a case with Skoda UK Customer Services, 

get approval for a Dealership to carry out an Official Check and report,

if the car is an oil user, then do not be put off by being told it may cost you £150 plus.

 

Many have, and were charged and then refunded, 

the Test is useless over 300 km or what ever.

 

The Oil & Filter gets changed, the hot oil dropped and weighed.,

1 litre is 857 grams.

So you are as well driving 1,242 miles before the Oil is dropped and weighed.

Be sure to get a Copy of the report.

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Cheers Guys,

 

I think I am using about 1l per 600 miles so over double that.  Am now debating whether to ask for my money back or get it fixed.. 

Best look at the many threads just in this forum on the engine failures.

No need to accept a rebuild, it is a new engine required.

 

So no Pistons / Rings, new Oil Spray Jets (squirters) or the Likes, 

a Oil Consumption test and the Technician should be confirming the engine is gubbed.

In old money then that's about 1 pint every 300 miles which is what you should get.................................on an engine that's fu****.

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Maybe they occasionally put a compression ring in upside down........never had an oil consumption issue though.

There is a manufacturer's 'fix' - ie TPI 2027920/1 dated 05 Jan 2012 - for 1.8/2.0TSI engines suffering excessive oil consumption. This involves replacing the complete set of pistons as well as the set of connecting rods. From memory the cost is circa £2500.

Does anyone actually know if there is an explanation for this phenomena?.

So, in the U.S. it's a four year warranty but were required to advertise a doubling to EIGHT years for this non recall oil consumption issue.

Seems like there's a 'take-you-for-granted' attitude elsewhere.

I'm sure a good few vehicles have high oil consumption due to being driven too carefully during the bed in period of up to about 300 - 400 miles.

I have driven all my new vehicles spiritedly without lugging or over revving the engine after getting engine (and gearbox) up to temperature for the last 30 years and have never had to top up oil between oil changes on any of them.

If that is the case then the best cars to have which will be less likely to have Oil Consumption Issues will be Ex Demonstrators and VW Group Management cars, Hire Cars etc.

 

Other than the Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Component & Build Quality Control and Engine Management issues there is nothing to bother about then.

The proper bedding in of the rings will make a great difference to oil consumption later in a cars life. There has to be enough pressure to seat the rings during the bedding in process, not so much as in the past but still necessary to give a good seal instead of glazing the bores.
Not thrashing or lugging the engine but varying the revs with a medium to full load when up to temperature from the off.

You should have told us about this method of running in before, Urrell.

You should have told us about this method of running in before, Urrell.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

I missed where you put your ideas forward on this subject..

So many drivers getting it wrong around the world. 'Driver Error', or so the Volkswagen Group Board and Senior Management would like you to believe, 

that will have been Martin Winterkorn CEO and Engineers Engineer and the others no longer Employed by the Volkswagen Group.

(Something about 'DAS AUTO', and everything happening being someone elses fault.)

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/266114-18tsi-and-20tsi-engine-failures

when in control of a small fleet of tankers whilst working in the water industry, when units(tractors) where replaced they were always driven spiritedly especially with 22,000 litres of **** behind - i have followed the same principal(not with stuff up behind of course) and as with others, minimal topping up!

Thank God for the "Ignore" button!!

(Not you Tony)

LOL, is it faulty, ?

you always comment on it on threads or posters you are ignoring.

I've never followed running-in procedures- max economy - never had an engine related problem of any sort.

Must have been very lucky(?).

Maybe not had a Euro 5 engine vehicle with 1.4, 1.8 or 2.0 TSI /TFSI that had Piston / Ring / Scrapper issues, Bore wash issues or Bearing play.

Or have you?

Certainly no VAG petrol

Japanese. Peugeot being the only modern European other than the diesel Yeti.

Toyota also have a similar problem issue with excessive oil consumption,but that's the difference ends between Toyota and VAG,TOYOTA have informed their customers of the issue and asked them to bring the vehicles in for repair not like Vag who have lied through their teeth to their customers for years trying to make the customer believe it's there fault,I've had high reving petrol engines and turbo petrol and never had to top up oil between services and if a modern engine needs more oil between services there is something wrong with the engine /components/ design such as vag and Toyota now have,but from an owners point of view I don't think vag have treated their customers with loyalty and respect.

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