New Nissan out in a month's time is rumoured to have 40 and even 60 kW h options plus lots of trick feature making 200 and 300 mile range between quick charges!

Petrol stations want a cut of the action now .....BINGO!

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1111906_bp-follows-other-gas-station-brands-adds-electric-car-charging

6 hours ago, Ryeman said:

Petrol stations want a cut of the action now .....BINGO!

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1111906_bp-follows-other-gas-station-brands-adds-electric-car-charging

 

I thought the 0.4 shown was a priice in cents for kW-h (does the US use kW-h or some other unit?)   but i think it might be a distance.

 

New Nissan Leaf may well re-establish this model as the best selling EV with quarter of a million, over 100k in the US, could be the game changer.   

An Event in Dundee later this month that might be of interest.

http://events.greenfleet.net/gf-dundee 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-39185122/dundee-leads-electric-car-revolution 

 

Figures back in 2014, but since then Dundee Council has really embraced the use of EV's as Council vehicles & helping private users with Free Charging / Parking etc.

http://evfleetworld.co.uk/scottish-councils-leading-way-on-ev-adoption 

 

Edited 4 August, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

The extended service interval, a slight understatement -

http://www.carshowroom.com.au/news/tesla-model-3-million-mile-service-intervals-here-2019/?utm_source=CSR+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9173bff9e1-CSR+Weekly+Wrap+-+August+4th+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f85b6ed6b3-9173bff9e1-57838697

not seen the exact quote but I doubt the "between services " was actually said,     the Mod S and X  need a fluid change (oil)  @ 12 months then every 150K   plus brake fluid and coolant @ 2 years    whilst progress is fast I don't think it that good---my understanding was "a power train that was capable of"----------------there seems to be a vast army of clowns posing a journalists writing crap and looking for the next angle and another crew of little better than horse tipsters posing as financial wizards who's main aim is to short Tesla   ( luckily their losses are running close to X  (can't just find the figure)  BILLION $    it's almost worthy of The Graun' 

 

New Leaf looks much better.  4 weeks to its launch.  https://www.motor1.com/news/175876/2018-nissan-leaf-render/ 

 

 

 

 

Edited 7 August, 20178 yr by lol-lol

Phew, the new leaf doesn't look like a frog that got sat on any more!

http://streetscooter.eu 

Queensland's free electric highway ..........apparently -

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1112058_another-electric-highway-1250-miles-along-australias-coast

3 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

http://streetscooter.eu 

Our next (last?) car will now probably be electric the way things are progressing ever faster.

2025 will be home storage also, as that's when our feedin rate drops significantly.

Approval given for Scotland's largest Solar Farm.

Plenty room for many many more Solar Farms and bigger than this seeing as Scotland has about 1/3rd of the Mainland British Isles land and then also the many isles & only about a 10th of the UK's population needing electricity & as it is Scotland generates more than Scotland needs with the ability to generate even more but providers get paid not to.

Building Solar Farms where Wind Farms already exist might be 'Simply Clever'.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-40941994 

 

Edited 16 August, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

How does the South Australian plan compare George?.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/solar-thermal-power-plant-announcement-for-port-augusta/8804628

Just the job,

It would reduce the need of fake tanning places, but you do need to think on why so many with red hair and fair skin here that never emigrated.

What fun!

http://www.autonews.com/gallery/20170816/PHOTOS04/816009999?cciid=email-autonews-daily

Carbon nanotubes from the University of Nottingham -

https://www.cemag.us/news/2017/08/reactions-tiny-containers-toward-worlds-smallest-coaxial-cable?et_cid=6060808&et_rid=916553762&type=cta&et_cid=6060808&et_rid=916553762&linkid=https%3a%2f%2fwww.cemag.us%2fnews%2f2017%2f08%2freactions-tiny-containers-toward-worlds-smallest-coaxial-cable%3fet_cid%3d6060808%26et_rid%3d%%subscriberid%%%26type%3dcta

http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1112166_hyundai-gets-the-hint-focuses-on-battery-powered-electric-cars-not-fuel-cells

EV are twice greener than 5 years ago: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/100486/electric-cars-are-twice-as-green-as-five-years-ago

 

 

3 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

EV are twice greener than 5 years ago: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/100486/electric-cars-are-twice-as-green-as-five-years-ago

 

 

......and that's in spite of the anti renewable energy forces who fund political parties and fake news outlets.

On ‎06‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 10:25, Ryeman said:

The extended service interval, a slight understatement -

http://www.carshowroom.com.au/news/tesla-model-3-million-mile-service-intervals-here-2019/?utm_source=CSR+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9173bff9e1-CSR+Weekly+Wrap+-+August+4th+2017&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f85b6ed6b3-9173bff9e1-57838697

This will be wonderful. The thing I hate most is visiting the stealers.

 

I've been saying this for ages, running cost of an EV is vastly less than conventional ICE cars. People don't seem to factor this in when looking at price of EV. Even right now, with Zoe mid-range outright purchase at £23k, its brother Clio mid-range at £14k.

But running both car for 5 years 10k annual mileage will cost you £1650 of fuel in Zoe at 12p/kWh and £7150 in Clio at £1.16 /l.

The brake pads will likely need replacing on the ICE car while EV doesn't.

Servicing cost £80 per year on the Zoe for pollen filter and visual checks, average £140 between major and minor on the Clio.

So over 5 years, the savings EV driver would have closed the gap in purchase price.

 

Octavia 3 will be my last ICE car, hopefully my second EV will not have to do the stealer's beloved cash-cow known as servicing.

^^^^^ servicing in Australia is what keeps the dealerships from going broke.   The last thing they want is to see BEVs prosper, unless there is a total structural overhaul, and with online sales for nearly every possible purchase, that's probably a long shot.

You can't charge you battery without power..........surprise surprise 

Edited 22 August, 20178 yr by Sad555

I would regard home fast charging as somewhat industrial and not something I would consider appropriate.

9 hours ago, Sad555 said:

You can't charge you battery without power..........surprise surprise 

 

Home chargers are normally  7 kWs which is less than many showers and capable of full charging even a 41 Kw-hr Zoe can be charged overnight on cheap electricity.

Edited 23 August, 20178 yr by lol-lol

 

12 hours ago, glosrich said:

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

We're driving to an electric future, but how do we keep the kettle on? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41011008

 

(Replying here seems more appropriate than Model 3 thread)

 

Surprise surprise, pointless news scaremongering based on current technology. Yes, current household fuse box are not designed for (unnecessarily) high supply current. Yes, what the grid operator said is true for current installs. But:

 

Smart chargers is the answer, which has only been given 3 paragraphs deep inside the BBC article. Smart grid, where distributed EV and household batteries help balance the electricity demand is where we will be by the time EV become mainstream. EV will then only charge when there's excess in the grid. Together, they will help reduce demand for faster response power plants like coal and gas. In the end, only nuclear and renewable will be needed, but EV is part of the equation, it is only achievable with large increase in battery production and decrease in battery cost (I'm waiting to buy cheap home battery made from retired EV battery).

 

Instead of passively absorb the scaremongering, let's be rational here, there is zero reason why anyone must charge the car at 6pm as soon as they get home and have the car fully charged at 3am.

 

 

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A top-of-the-range electric car will have a battery capacity of 90kWh. Using an average sized charger (3.5kW) it would take around 19 hours to go from 25% to fully charged.

That's a long time to wait to nip to the shops, but charging time can be cut dramatically by using a larger charger - ideally, you'd plug in something hefty with up to 50kW to reduce the time to about 80 minutes.

 

 

Really BBC? You are saying people will only plug in when they want to use the car and then wait for the car to charge? Let's not forget 25% in any 100+ miles EV is more than enough to nip to the shops, this is spreading false information.

Edited 23 August, 20178 yr by wyx087