^^^ I knew guys that sniffed lighter fuel and they were poets.

Now members of the dead poets society mostly now i think.

We are on about Premium Derv, Keep up please...................

 

 

A bit of detergent now and then clearly a good thing. Buying cheap diesel and then a bit of Redex or the like now and then as good and cheaper, quite possibly.

 

High Octane petrol for those engine that need it due to there high compressions but with knock sensor to to a bit of ignition retarding if needed.  SEAT Cupra, Mk 1 Octy VRS 1.8T definitely needed 98 Octane or better as does the Fabia 2 VRS.  Use 95 and kiss goodbye to 10 hp and a couple of mpg so worth paying for Momentum but not V power or other.

 

Diesel I worked on were 20,000 hp and burned residual fuel ie the crap left when all the good distillates taken out.  Had to be heated to 100 C just to pump it.  Never used a detergent but would pop the head off occasionally ie after 1000 hours running and get in to the bore and clean out the ports etc.

 

Literally done about a million miles and about a half on diesel and half on petrol and apart from using high octane fuel in high performance petrol never reckoned any benefit from more expensive fuel, in the UK it is all good stuff other than the incident that Tesco had when they accidentally bought a load of duff fuel on the Rotterdam market with off the charts silicon.....

 

Motorbikes I also found were more fuel sensitive but we were producing about 100 hp per half a litre not less than 100 hp per litre which is more in the lower specifica outputs where quality of fuel starts to real matter.  New versions of the Renault TCE  898 cc produces 118 hp ie over 130 hp per litre. Ford ecoboost 140 hp per litre as are the proper hot EA888 ie 150 hp per litre. Expect they like the good stuff, 100/102 octane if you can get it.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_petrol_contamination.

Edited 20 August, 20169 yr by lol-lol

A bit of detergent now and then clearly a good thing. Buying cheap diesel and then a bit of Redex or the like now and the as good and cheaper, quite possibly.

 

High Octane petrol for those engine that need it due to there high compressions but with knock sensor to to a bit of ignition retarding if needed.  SEAT Cupra, Mk 1 Octy VRS 1.8T definitely needed 98 Octane or better as does the Fabia 2 VRS.  Use 95 and kiss goodbye to 10 hp and a couple of mpg so worth paying for Momentum but not V power or other.

 

Diesel I worked on were 20,000 hp and burned residual fuel ie the crap left when all the good distillates taken out.  Had to be heated to 100 C just to pump it.  Never used a detergent but would pop the head of occasionally ie after 1000 hours running and get in to the bore and clean out the ports etc.

 

Literally done about a million miles and about a half on diesel and half on petrol and apart from using high octane fuel in high performance petrol never reckoned any benefit from more expensive fuel, in the UK it is all good stuff other than the incident that Tesco had when they accidentally bought a load of duff fuel on the Rotterdam market with off the charts silicon.....

 

Motorbikes I also found were more fuel sensitive but we were producing about 100 hp per half a litre not less than 100 hp per litre which is more in the lower specifica outputs where quality of fuel starts to real matter.  New versions of the Renault TCE  898 cc produces 118 hp ie over 130 hp per litre. Ford ecoboost 140 hp per litre as are the proper hot EA888 ie 150 hp per litre. Expect they like the good stuff, 100/102 octane if you can get it.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_petrol_contamination.

 

Thats all we wanted,  thanks

Edited 19 August, 20169 yr by Auric Goldfinger

A bit of detergent, what harm can that do, then you think what it is, sodium.

Secret additives and detergents.

But no worries.

 

Then when we get off the diesel and onto petrols, what harm can some detergent do?

Bore wash for starters, not an issue with many engines, but with ones that have issues, detergents can be a problem.

A bit of detergent, what harm can that do, then you think what it is, sodium.

Secret additives and detergents.

But no worries.

Then when we get off the diesel and onto petrols, what harm can some detergent do?

Bore wash for starters, not an issue with many engines, but with ones that have issues, detergents can be a problem.

 

Buying any fuel can be a lottery as there are so many variables.  Is the garage's tanks not contaminated with water leakage or corrosion.  At sea we would lab test the fuel we bought for the main engine and generators.

 

The main engine would use up to 70 tonnes a day and the specific gravity could vary between 0.9 and 0.95 ie really crappy diesel fuel but her in the UK, even in Tescos etc, the fuel we get is pretty wonderful.

 

Worth also keeping in mind that there is probably a couple of gallons in the system even when your car says almost empty as it needs it for the fuel pump loop.  Hence I would have no problem in putting in a couple of gallons in 95 Octane fuel in my octane sensitive performance petrol cars just to get me home before filling up with Momentum near home.

 

The four pack works out cheap and it only need 90 cc for a 50 litre fuel treatment so the 250 can do 3 tank for much of the small fuel tank we have today unlike the 70 litre tank I had in the old A4 for example and its near 1,000 mile range.   Tescos were doing the four pack and sometimes with BOGOF effective deals.

 

I have tended to use Redex for my older diesel and petrol cars and bikes as it has been the dominate UK brand. Lots of other ones in the world also available in the UK mainly from the US.   Good video on the Holts/Redex website.  https://www.holtsauto.com/redex/products/diesel-system-cleaner/ 

Edited 21 August, 20169 yr by lol-lol

30 Million vehicles on the UK roads and lots get along just fine.

Some drivers over think the fuel and where it comes from.

British minimum Standards and in Britain so buy the octane, grade or special fuels you want to pay for.

 

If you have a 'special needs' vehicle or are fussy then you know what to do which is think about it and buy what suits best.

But it is not rocket science or even rocket fuel, it is road fuel in what is not a third world country.

30 Million vehicles on the UK roads and lots get along just fine.

Some drivers over think the fuel and where it comes from.

British minimum Standards and in Britain so buy the octane, grade or special fuels you want to pay for.

If you have a 'special needs' vehicle or are fussy then you know what to do which is think about it and buy what suits best.

But it is not rocket science or even rocket fuel, it is road fuel in what is not a third world country.

 

It is interesting to see how power decreases over mileage, much due to wear, and then to look at optimum times to service ones cars.

 

When doing a stint during my Mech Eng course did a summer with Piper on their rolling road and it was a complete eye opener just how much less horsepower cars were producing after 50K miles or more.

 

When an air filter can be bought for less than a tenner from Europarts or the like it is often worth changing a little more often, or sometimes just turn it around by 180 degrees if a shape that allows that and say hello to another few horsepower and miles per tank.

 

Mind you I gave us diesel about 2010 when I changed from a company that forced one to have a wiesel and gave me freedom to choose and with the current crop of turbo-petrols with direct injection, for me, I did not see the point of continuing with diesel any more despite being a diesel engineer as my first career and with diesels, without SCR, like to be banned from cities in the next decade it was something I was happy to consign to history.      

I always change the air filter when I swap the oil, for a smidge over a tenner delivered to my door (MANN) there isn't a reason why you wouldn't...

 

I always change the air filter when I swap the oil, for a smidge over a tenner delivered to my door (MANN) there isn't a reason why you wouldn't...

 

 

Like to do plug changes to on the spark ignition engines.  The spark plug is the sole eye witness to combustion.

 

Did three of the six plug on the V6 petrol Jaaaaag but then thought it would be easier to sell the car than change the other 3 plugs.

 

Changing the air filter and I got over 40 mpg coming back from Devon.  Think there must have been a Force 7 South Westerly helping me out.  

I always change the air filter when I swap the oil, for a smidge over a tenner delivered to my door (MANN) there isn't a reason why you wouldn't...

 

Ditto,just done my cars 2nd oil and filters change (apart from pollen this time) since I got the car 18000 miles ago. I can safely say it's running way better than when I got it and seems to get better all the time (touch wood). Next time I might drop and clean the sump n that. Also use Mann air filter, £6 for me over the counter of my local ECP, like you say no reason why you shouldn't.

Ditto,just done my cars 2nd oil and filters change (apart from pollen this time) since I got the car 18000 miles ago. I can safely say it's running way better than when I got it and seems to get better all the time (touch wood). Next time I might drop and clean the sump n that. Also use Mann air filter, £6 for me over the counter of my local ECP, like you say no reason why you shouldn't.

 

When you see that your local franchise garage is actually also using the Eurocar Parts parts you may as buy direct and pocket the 50 or 70% discount that they don't.  

When you see that your local franchise garage is actually also using the Eurocar Parts parts you may as buy direct and pocket the 50 or 70% discount that they don't.

Luckily I know the guy on the counter so he does me the trade discount, so for low cost items I either do that or wait for the big discount codes and click and collect for higher priced stuff.

Respect. Anyone who can be bothered to re-write Frank Herbert's Dune drivel deserves it.

Btw, I hate Tesco diesel but like BP but wont pay for super.

Edited 22 August, 20169 yr by camelspyyder

43 litres of Bartoline paraffin, 2 litres of Olive oil, 1 litre of Turps and a cap full of Fairy Liquid (as a detergent) FTW.

Respect. Anyone who can be bothered to re-write Frank Herbert's Dune drivel deserves it.

Btw, I hate Tesco diesel but like BP but wont pay for super.

 

Felt the same about Shell.  The basic 95 octane was good and especially in the really high performance two stroke ie  120 hp per litre plus but we still burnt through pistons like it was an art form. 

43 litres of Bartoline paraffin, 2 litres of Olive oil, 1 litre of Turps and a cap full of Fairy Liquid (as a detergent) FTW.

 

Use to love the bikes burning the vegetable oil rather than mineral in the total loss lubrication system, is was like the mobile chippy going past.

 

My Kawasaki H1 500 cc two stroke could make the street disappear when opening her up after she had been toddling around for a bit like a scene from a Western movie.

Edited 22 August, 20169 yr by lol-lol

Respect. Anyone who can be bothered to re-write Frank Herbert's Dune drivel deserves it.

Btw, I hate Tesco diesel but like BP but wont pay for super.

I assumed by this you mean your car doesn't like it?

Line up several of exactly the same car and there will be perceived differences as to which fuel is best as each will run differently.

One tank of a different fuel to usual will have a marginal effect.

Generally ours runs fine on City diesel from Sainsbury's.

Respect. Anyone who can be bothered to re-write Frank Herbert's Dune drivel deserves it.

Btw, I hate Tesco diesel but like BP but wont pay for super.

 

Thought David Lynch did a good job.

 

Compared to Eraserhead it is very straight-forward....

 

Use to love the bikes burning the vegetable oil rather than mineral in the total loss lubrication system, is was like the mobile chippy going past.

 

My Kawasaki H1 500 cc two stroke could make the street disappear when opening her up after she had been toddling around for a bit like a scene from a Western movie.

We used to get a terrific smell by putting Castrol GTX ( for those who remember it) in the 2 stroke oil tank of Suzuki GT250's .......Memories