Bought a new ASUS Zenbook and did the initial setup and all was good until I shut the machine down and tried to open again....no matter what it kept saying the password was wrong!!!...Now I maybe a wee bit slow at times but I never forget passwords!!!...Three hours later and several calls to Microsoft, i've had to wipe the machine and reinstall everything!!!...Not a happy chappy at all...Why cant they feckin make stuff user friendly?!!!! Windows 10....fecking sh1te!!!!

One reason I'm a Mac Book Pro man

 

Glad you finally got it sorted though Kit, lets hope is works as it should now

 

 

AG

Win 10 requires a PIN not a password by default doesn't it? I didn't forget mine yet :D

One reason I'm a Mac Book Pro man

 

Glad you finally got it sorted though Kit, lets hope is works as it should now

 

 

AG

One reason I'm still on XP........................................................................................Lol. Not really, but staying on Windows 7 as long as I can.

One reason I'm a Mac Book Pro man

 

Glad you finally got it sorted though Kit, lets hope is works as it should now

 

 

AG

If Apple users have a problem they have to go to a 'Genius Bar' in one of their shiny and bright (do you speak Micra?) Apple 'boutiques'.

There a spotty teenager in Vans trainers will upsell you the latest shiny thing, a shiny phone with shiny 'air buds' and when you ask 'where's the 3.5mm jack?' he'll either shoot you in the face for asking such a stupid question or self combust.

If Apple users have a problem they have to go to a 'Genius Bar' in one of their shiny and bright (do you speak Micra?) Apple 'boutiques'.

There a spotty teenager in Vans trainers will upsell you the latest shiny thing, a shiny phone with shiny 'air buds' and when you ask 'where's the 3.5mm jack?' he'll either shoot you in the face for asking such a stupid question or self combust.

 

Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute. (in a techy electronic voice!)

Win 10 requires a PIN not a password by default doesn't it? I didn't forget mine yet :D

When W10 updated my tablet last weekend on every subsequent reboot it ignored the PIN and asked for the password, so I had to delete the PIN and re-enter the same PIN for it to default back to asking for a PIN.

Well it took an hour to reinstall everything and have now just opted to log in with the Microsoft log in (now changed to a pin) so all good...well for now!!...Just trying to copy my favourites over from an windows 7 machine but already windows 10 saying "me no likey"!!!!

 

Its going to be a long day!!!!!

If Apple users have a problem they have to go to a 'Genius Bar' in one of their shiny and bright (do you speak Micra?) Apple 'boutiques'.

There a spotty teenager in Vans trainers will upsell you the latest shiny thing, a shiny phone with shiny 'air buds' and when you ask 'where's the 3.5mm jack?' he'll either shoot you in the face for asking such a stupid question or self combust.

 

 

Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute. (in a techy electronic voice!)

 

 

Secretly you love Macs,  but you just wont admit it 

My sister accidently hit the Windows 10 Upgrade button the other week on her Windows 7 machine - by all accounts it's knackered the whole thing - lots of crashes and lack of response and she's lost a significant quantum of personal data.  Admittedly her own fault but it was an accidental upgrade click and apparently she couldn't then back out of it...   She's not a happy bunny!

It seems a lot of people find success by clicking to do the upgrade, before then doing a completely clean reinstall.

If you don't have multiple drives, back up any personal files, configs and the like beforehand and then re-apply them afterward.

 

I've not had a single problem with Win10 itself - Just a couple of glitches over hardware, but I have overclocked a lot so it's to be expected.

I upgraded to windows 10 from 7 and I don't like the way they have made all the settings harder to find. I don't think i will ever be as familiar with it as i was with the control panel in windows XP.

 

That said, when my SSD died i went straight for windows 10 as it seems to have better driver support. I have also found windows 7 and 10 a lot more stable than XP ever was.

I'm still on Win 7 Pro and unlikely to move. When my wife had to get a new computer almost 2 years ago she bought a Dell desktop with Win 8.1. It was horrible. We resisted all Microsoft's attempts to get her to "upgrade" to 10 but even then Win 8.1 was unstable. It crashed badly one week after guarantee expired and Dell did not want to know or help. We managed some recovery, using the "Factory Reset" USB stick, but the machine was always doing wierd things and having to be reset. Eventually, in desperation, I bought her a (?reconditioned?) Windows 7 Pro desktop machine that Dell had on offer. It was her Christmas present!  All OK again (so far).

Windows 10 - so far no problems, but I have gone for Start 10 so I have all the familiar Windows 7 menus

One reason I'm still on XP........................................................................................Lol. Not really, but staying on Windows 7 as long as I can.

8 was bad, but 10 is just dire. It sounds ridiculous, but, went to Linux because it's easier to use

It’s the same old thing the vast majority of people do not like change
I repair PC’s for a living. I must have installed Win 10 on over 200 PC’s apart from a bit of graphics
driver glitches earlier on there were very few other problems.
Where I did see a lot grief was on the upgrade side, I would highly recommend a fresh installation via usb stick
freely available from the Microsoft upgrade site. The biggest moan I get from customers is the updates,
it’s funny they are quite happy to accept Android or Apple updates.
I have had only 2 customers that requested a return to Windows 7 and I obliged them at no extra cost.
To summarise I think Windows 10 (apart from Microsoft descending into the same realms as Apple and Google on
leeching info from you) is a very workable operating system.

Bets are in 5 years’ time people will look fondly on it.

Win10 is very good under the bonnet. It's the shiny crap they've layered on top that causes problems.

 

Multiple team that have been allowed to do their own bit their own way which is just a little different to the other teams.

 

Win10 (like most other operating systems) has gone like car engines, you can't see the parts just a big pretty cover that says "don't touch".

Which is really frustrating of you know what you're doing.

 

My W10 install has been reliable except for the updates which keep failing. But becasue of the way that MS works now it's very hard to get individual patches or the event logs to find out what has gone wrong and fix it.

It’s the same old thing the vast majority of people do not like change

I embrace change so long as it's an improvement.

 

What I am unwilling to accept is that even with Windows 10 Pro I cannot choose whether to accept an update or not - given M$ history of poorly tested patches that cause either things to stop working (e.g. webcams) or even BSOD this, for me, is an essential requirement and not a nice-to-have.

 

And the way that some updates revert your settings to M$ preferred ones is unacceptable (see my post above about an update at the weekend ignoring my preference to login using a PIN) - it's MY PC not M$'s PC :devil:

 

Win10 is very good under the bonnet. It's the shiny crap they've layered on top that causes problems.

My W10 install has been reliable except for the updates which keep failing. But because of the way that MS works now it's very hard to get individual patches or the event logs to find out what has gone wrong and fix it.

100% agree, there's too many layers of obfuscation in Windows 10 caused by unnecessary complexity and unwanted (by many people) and unhelpful "apps".

 

As said above, failing updates is the biggest issue for me - on our W7 and W8.1 PCs I always wait and see which updates are reported as problematical and then don't install them (or find the security only version if there is one).

Well so far sooo ****...to get anything done on it i've started googling what I want to do on my phone then following the steps on the laptop of pain and suffering...so much for be user friendly and intuitive!!!

It’s the same old thing the vast majority of people do not like change

I repair PC’s for a living. I must have installed Win 10 on over 200 PC’s apart from a bit of graphics

driver glitches earlier on there were very few other problems.

Where I did see a lot grief was on the upgrade side, I would highly recommend a fresh installation via usb stick

freely available from the Microsoft upgrade site. The biggest moan I get from customers is the updates,

it’s funny they are quite happy to accept Android or Apple updates.

I have had only 2 customers that requested a return to Windows 7 and I obliged them at no extra cost.

To summarise I think Windows 10 (apart from Microsoft descending into the same realms as Apple and Google on

leeching info from you) is a very workable operating system.

Bets are in 5 years’ time people will look fondly on it.

 

But one point you forget is that Microsoft tried to force an update to Win10 on people that wrecked many PC's - it didn't 'recommend you do a fresh install via a USB stick' and many people simply clicked the 'update' link they were given expecting it to be just that - an update that retained their info and settings with no detriment to the operation of the machine...

I upgraded to windows 10 from 7 and I don't like the way they have made all the settings harder to find. I don't think i will ever be as familiar with it as i was with the control panel in windows XP.

 

That said, when my SSD died i went straight for windows 10 as it seems to have better driver support. I have also found windows 7 and 10 a lot more stable than XP ever was.

 

I find it much easier to find stuff in win 10 especially settings. Just type what you are after in the search box. 

Edited 17 January, 20179 yr by io1901

One reason I'm a Mac Book Pro man

 

Glad you finally got it sorted though Kit, lets hope is works as it should now

 

 

AG

 

Just before Christmas my Macbook wouldn't accept my password tried all the things advised and nothing would work. Ended up taking it back to the Apple Store were all they could do was wipe and reinstall the whole lot. Luckily I only work of network drives and Dropbox so all my important information was still there and only the programs needed reinstalling. No explanation to why it happened other than it does sometimes!

 

If your data isn't backed up, I wouldn't be so smug.

Edited 17 January, 20179 yr by CWARD

TBH a wrong password should result in the data on the PC/tablet/phone being unreachable otherwise what's the point?

 

Ok if the machine fks up that's infuriating but they're shouldn't be back doors only backups.

If your data isn't backed up, I wouldn't be so smug.

 

My Mac is backed up Daily    :yes:

If you do not want or need a password on your Win10 system then search for how to use 'netplwiz' (its an MS app) there is a simple way to disable passwords and boot the system without one.

 

Simply type netplwiz into the Search Windows box at the bottom of the screen and follow the on-line instructions to get rid of passwords for ever - only use if you are the sole user of your PC or trust every user implicitly.

 

Can be reversed at any time using the same app