Hello everyone,

 

I am thinking of buying full milltek exhaust for my VRS and I have an option of either buying milltek downpipe with high flow sports cat or downpipe de-cat. De-cat pipe is around 200ish euro cheaper but, if i got it i would have to keep my old downpipe and put it in every year when going for NCT(MOT in uk) which in a long run would cost me alot more (paying mechanic to put it in and remove it right after the test). Should i pay more and forget about it or should i get de-cat and keep installing the cat every year for the test? Also are there any noticeable differences in power(if any)?

 

Also i know this is random question but can Fabia VRS support 100w light bulbs?

Edited 12 April, 20179 yr by Minjukas

3 minutes ago, Minjukas said:

Hello everyone,

 

I am thinking of buying full milltek exhaust for my VRS and I have an option of either buying milltek dump pipe with high flow sports cat or dump pipe de-cat. De-cat pipe is around 200ish euro cheaper but, if i got it i would have to keep my old dump pipe and put it in every year when going for NCT(MOT in uk) which in a long run would cost me alot more (paying mechanic to put it in and remove it right after the test). Should i pay more and forget about it or should i get de-cat and keep installing the cat every year for the test? Also are there any noticeable differences in power(if any)?

 

Also i know this is random question but can Fabia VRS support 100w light bulbs?

i personally would run the sports cat I'm in the same boat as you with the mk2 fabia vrs but what I'm doing is getting a custom fab downpipe and sports cat down to a milltek sports cat back exhaust which will work out cheaper

5 minutes ago, Minjukas said:

Hello everyone,

 

I am thinking of buying full milltek exhaust for my VRS and I have an option of either buying milltek dump pipe with high flow sports cat or dump pipe de-cat. De-cat pipe is around 200ish euro cheaper but, if i got it i would have to keep my old dump pipe and put it in every year when going for NCT(MOT in uk) which in a long run would cost me alot more (paying mechanic to put it in and remove it right after the test). Should i pay more and forget about it or should i get de-cat and keep installing the cat every year for the test? Also are there any noticeable differences in power(if any)?

 

Also i know this is random question but can Fabia VRS support 100w light bulbs?

why not run the decat and get them to cut out a section of pipe and put it on clamps so you could strap a cat in come MOT time 

7 minutes ago, thomasaspin said:

why not run the decat and get them to cut out a section of pipe and put it on clamps so you could strap a cat in come MOT time 

hmmm never thought of that to be honest.

1 minute ago, Minjukas said:

hmmm never thought of that to be honest.

thats what id do buddy then you can just have the same length of your original cat cut and just stick your original cat back on come MOT time

Mine has a Decat and has pasted all MOT's since it's been fitted. 

 

Another option is to have a decat at pipe and have a fake cat shell welded on.

 

1 minute ago, stevobeavo said:

Mine has a Decat and has pasted all MOT's since it's been fitted. 

 

Another option is to have a decat at pipe and have a fake cat shell welded on.

 

But would it pass the emission test?

Diesels aren't tested on emissions only a smoke test. 

4 minutes ago, stevobeavo said:

Diesels aren't tested on emissions only a smoke test. 

Ohh, I wonder if it's the same in Ireland as it is in UK

In answer to your question, no, it won't give you any more power at all, in fact many people have reported a slight loss of torque until remapped to suit.

 

The electrical system will support 100W bulbs but they'll melt the plastic headlight reflectors so, again, no.

Edited 12 April, 20179 yr by sepulchrave

5 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

In answer to your question, no, it won't give you any more power at all, in fact many people have reported a slight loss of torque until remapped to suit.

I have the chip from the previous owner, and remap is in my plans. First i want to have better air/exhaust gas flow before i do the remap. 

Edited 12 April, 20179 yr by Minjukas

Hi, I would go for a downpipe only as it reduces back pressure - should help the turbo spool up.

Would help a remap as it's about the engine as a pump, the faster you get air and diesel in and the faster you get exhaust out

Just now, Minjukas said:

I have the chip from the previous owner, and remap is in my plans. First i want to have better air/emissions flow before i do the remap. 

 

It doesn't work like, that, it's a DIESEL, they don't respond to standard petrol tuning tricks. Don't waste your money, fit a FMIC and a bigger turbo to go faster, nothing else works.

Just now, sepulchrave said:

 

It doesn't work like, that, it's a DIESEL, they don't respond to standard petrol tuning tricks. Don't waste your money, fit a FMIC and a bigger turbo to go faster, nothing else works.

I got the chip for free so i would not be wasting any money. And could you explain what the FMIC is?

Just now, Minjukas said:

I got the chip for free so i would not be wasting any money. And could you explain what the FMIC is?

 

Front Mount Inter Cooler. I mean the exhaust system is a waste of money, if you want to spend hundreds of euros and go faster then just fit a hybrid turbo and get it remapped to suit, sell the chip on ebay.

2 minutes ago, Minjukas said:

I have the chip from the previous owner, and remap is in my plans. First i want to have better air/emissions flow before i do the remap. 

Diesels are different to petrol engines, the exhaust flow isn't as much as a requirement. Unless you're running a much bigger turbo, the standard exhaust is fine. Even with a bigger turbo it isn't essential and won't particularly effect power output. 

If I could of kept the standard down pipe with cat in with the gtb turbo I fitted, I would of done. The exhaust fumes now remind me of a dirty fairground generator. 

 

Focus us on a bigger intercooler, don't bother with a S2000/K&N air filter, don't bother with a pd160 intake. 

Save your money for a bigger set of brakes to stop yourself. 

 

JRJG 

6 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

It doesn't work like, that, it's a DIESEL, they don't respond to standard petrol tuning tricks. Don't waste your money, fit a FMIC and a bigger turbo to go faster, nothing else works.

+1 

3 minutes ago, Jrjg said:

Diesels are different to petrol engines, the exhaust flow isn't as much as a requirement. Unless you're running a much bigger turbo, the standard exhaust is fine. Even with a bigger turbo it isn't essential and won't particularly effect power output. 

If I could of kept the standard down pipe with cat in with the gtb turbo I fitted, I would of done. The exhaust fumes now remind me of a dirty fairground generator. 

 

Focus us on a bigger intercooler, don't bother with a S2000/K&N air filter, don't bother with a pd160 intake. 

Save your money for a bigger set of brakes to stop yourself. 

 

JRJG 

Ahh i am not very familiar with diesels and their tuning. Thanks for clearing things up for me

6 minutes ago, Jrjg said:

Diesels are different to petrol engines, the exhaust flow isn't as much as a requirement. Unless you're running a much bigger turbo, the standard exhaust is fine. Even with a bigger turbo it isn't essential and won't particularly effect power output. 

If I could of kept the standard down pipe with cat in with the gtb turbo I fitted, I would of done. The exhaust fumes now remind me of a dirty fairground generator. 

 

Focus us on a bigger intercooler, don't bother with a S2000/K&N air filter, don't bother with a pd160 intake. 

Save your money for a bigger set of brakes to stop yourself. 

 

JRJG 

Any suggestions at which intercooler i should be looking at?

Just now, Minjukas said:

Ahh i am not very familiar with diesels and their tuning. Thanks for clearing things up for me

Hey no worries. 

 

Have a good read through the Fabia 1 section, have a search for 'hybrid turbo' or 'gtb turbo', 'fmic', and custom remapping. 

There is a hell of a lot to learn. And also a hell of a lot to disregard. 

 

Bigger turbo, bigger intercooler to prevent heat soak, bigger brakes to stop yourself, tougher clutch to harness the power. 

 

Standard injectors, exhaust, air intake etc are good for ~220bhp. The standard clutch is only good for 300/310ft.lb of torque. 

 

You can very easily spend a lot of money, so do your research first! 

 

JRJG 

Airtec has been WELL covered, also SEAT sport, use the search function and start absorbing knowledge.

Also bin that 'chip', it's not a chip. The ECU already has a chip in it which can be easily remapped, it doesn't need another one.

3 minutes ago, Minjukas said:

Any suggestions at which intercooler i should be looking at?

Cheapest will be a Seat Sport front mounted intercooler. Can be had off Ebay for a very reasonable price. 

Airtec are very popular as of recent, but quite expensive. 

You will need a hard pipe kit to mate up the cooler to your intake and turbo. Have a search in the Fabia mk1 section. 

You'll find lots of bed time reading. 

 

JRJG 

 

Just now, sepulchrave said:

Airtec has been WELL covered, also SEAT sport, use the search function and start absorbing knowledge.

Also bin that 'chip', it's not a chip. The ECU already has a chip in it which can be easily remapped, it doesn't need another one.

We're tripping over one another, i'll go get a beer and let you handle this one  

2 minutes ago, Jrjg said:

Cheapest will be a Seat Sport front mounted intercooler. Can be had off Ebay for a very reasonable price. 

Airtec are very popular as of recent, but quite expensive. 

You will need a hard pipe kit to mate up the cooler to your intake and turbo. Have a search in the Fabia mk1 section. 

You'll find lots of bed time reading. 

 

JRJG 

 

 

1 minute ago, Jrjg said:

We're tripping over one another, i'll go get a beer and let you handle this one  

thank you guys for all this help! FMIC is alot cheaper and seems that it is alot better than full race exhaust, it is also bit cheaper!

If you want a bit more noise then get the local exhaust shop to cut your back box off and weld in a bit of pipe. Cheap to do. 

 

Intercooler and turbo are a much better upgrade. And don't forget your brakes too.