The first few days after we bought my new Superb hubby was returning a score of 85. Since then for the last 2 weeks, even though sometimes we average over 50mpg since start, the green score stays around 30 or even lower. How the bejiggins can you get this score higher, never touch the accelerator? I have a 2.0 tdi 150 dsg and I know this is score is just a gimmick but wondered why it's so low. 

 

I think the score drops if you're doing a lot of stop-start or around town driving etc. I believe the score is made up of a combination of gear change timings, anticipation, and other factors like harsh acceleration and speed. If you're heavy right footed or stay in lower gears without changing up then you'll naturally get a lower score.

14 minutes ago, FloatingBrick said:

I think the score drops if you're doing a lot of stop-start or around town driving etc. I believe the score is made up of a combination of gear change timings, anticipation, and other factors like harsh acceleration and speed. If you're heavy right footed or stay in lower gears without changing up then you'll naturally get a lower score.

Thanks but  it's a dsg so a lot of it is out of my hands. Nothing's changed from the second day and it was even the same route :-(

That's weird. Guess the moral of the story is to just ignore the green statistics, it's probably a gimmick like you said earlier. 

22 hours ago, tigermad said:

Thanks but  it's a dsg so a lot of it is out of my hands. Nothing's changed from the second day and it was even the same route :-(

Has the drive mode changed?

 

I checked it once, this so-called "green score", soon after getting the car and having just done a non-stop journey of a little over 100 miles. I can't remember the exact score but it was near the top in the high nineties and the entire leaf was green.

It gave me a maximum 100 score for doing 90 mph but knocked it down considerably for doing a constant 50 mph in roadworks.

Almost the entire journey was on ACC with DSG.

That was also the first and last time I could ever be asked to look up the "green score". As for "drive green"...

 

Ignore the green score. I have a 280 can drive in normal and sensible and get low 30s MPG but green score in the 50s or 60s. Then i can put car in sport and drive it hard and get low 20s MPG but green score on the 80s. It makes no sense!

As above, I have the same experiences in my 220. It doesn't seem to have much real world rhyme or reason, but the best I can work out is it's related to acceleration/revs rather than actual economy. If I'm pootling around town on a low throttle (e.g. the baby's in the car and I'm trying to lull her back to sleep) my score will consistently be 100 even if my actual MPG is low for the journey type, due to shuffling about without making progress and hitting all the lights etc.

 

Conversely I can put the car in manual mode on an A or B road and hammer the balls off it; driving to the conditions, letting the engine sing and giving it hell, but with a corresponding increase in off-throttle time due to the high revs and carried speed. This seems to give the best MPG possible (I often finish a 'hoon' of this type in the high 30s) but ends up with a very low green score indeed.

 

When driving 'normally' day to day the green score and MPG are both about average, but with occasional use of manual override (e.g. on dual carriageways or to overtake on a B road) I do tend to find that often my green score plummets down for that section yet my MPG rises by up to 10% at the same time. Go figure.  As BillyJim said, I've stopped paying attention to it.

Drive with the DSG in any mode = scores between 30 & 50 (even with LOADS of freewheeling in eco mode)

Drive with ACC on in any mode = scores above 60.

 

I think it's a marketing ploy to get you to use ACC more as it makes you think it's more efficient than your driving. Which it may be as the acceleration is always going to be constant and it will only use the minimum fuel input to maintain/increase your speed. As it's just a figure on a screen that is arbitrarily derived from a set of inputs though and has no tangible basis on which to gauge against other types of efficiency score, I ignore it. 

 

SWMBO is looking at buying a Nissan Leaf and the green score thingy in that is connected to a database that scores you against all other Leaf owners and tells you if you're more efficient than other people in the country. I think you get an award if you're the most efficient driver in the country like a free bag of coal or your own cubic metre of CO2...

Ha ha, free bag of coal... 

I rented an S3 over in Germany. The green score was high 90s when I was doing over 130 mph on the autobahn south of Berlin. Not sure haw that can be in anyway green. 

12 hours ago, starfighter said:

I rented an S3 over in Germany. The green score was high 90s when I was doing over 130 mph on the autobahn south of Berlin. Not sure haw that can be in anyway green. 

 

Because you weren't breaking the speed limit

I frequently get 90 plus in my superb 1.4tsi  manual. On a 350 mile trip back from lake district couple of weeks ago it was 96 and was doing about 59mpg  I believe.  If it goes under 85 I'm not a happy bunny but I'm tight! 

 

In my uncles  karoq dsg  I managed 100 once  on a 5 mile trip.  But dsg  is cheating  imo  as one of the major factors is done for you. 

 

The first pic is my uncles  karoq   the last 3 are a proper  car,  the superb  with a manual gearbox  😂

 

The last one was 100 miles in  to a 350 mile drive , it had dropped to about 98 at the end

Edited 29 April, 20215 yr by magictongue
Adding pics

The GreenScore is utter nonsense and has nothing to do with economy as can be seen on mine.

It's a pretty graphic but it's so inconsistent that it's totally useless.

I actually wonder if this being read correctly and instead of it being an indication of how economical we are driving, but is attempting to illustrate just how "eco friendly" our driving is for the planet in terms of emissions?

Do you mean... Considering the trip/journey you're doing the green score tells you "com'on guy, you could do better and save some more fuel" ?

100 being the top of the pop of eco-friendly driving...

Is that what you mean? Sorry, if a silly question. Just to be sure I get it right without translation bias.  

As far as I can see, it makes zero difference what ever driving mode you are in, sport/eco/comfort/normal etc, the greenscore, only seems to take into account is the speed of the car, the throttle inputs, the amount of time spent stationary in traffic so it would seem that it is attempting to show just how effectively the car is being driven to allow the fuel to be consumed in the most efficiently way as far as combustion/pollution is concerned rather than the actual MPG figures.

ECO mode should help better scoring with its coasting function, shouldn't it?

I’ve looked at it once when I first bought the car and never since.

On 01/07/2024 at 03:09, Bap33 said:

ECO mode should help better scoring with its coasting function, shouldn't it?

That is what I thought, but now I'm not sure. I'm going to do 2 sessions of the same route, 1 in normal mode and the other in eco and post the results later. 

With same driving style of course… 😉

No.  With the same average speed and time taken for both journeys.     Driving the same way does not work, for coasting the toe must be off the accelerator. 

You ´re right about toe off the accelerator.

But I can get same average speed with ´normal’ driving on one hand and hit throttle and brakes on the other hand. It can’t be compared either… 😉

I can notice that almost every day on my trip to work.

Edited 2 July, 20241 yr by Bap33

Well here is the first trip, taking my son to work, a round trip of 26 miles in individual mode with normal for all modes etc comfort for dampers and eco driving mode.

A dismal score of just 52 and 53.2 mpg.