Hi again. Gradually getting used to the Scout and, thanks to this forum now know a lot more about what the knobs and switches do. I love driving it apart from the annoyance of having to switch the stop/start off every journey as I find it disconcerting!  

The only other thing.....

On the first day I took delivery the TPMS said that the nearside rear had lost pressure. Hence I checked all the tyres and, in actual fact the pressure in that tyre was around 2.5 Bar whilst the other 3 were at around 2.3 Bar.

I changed them all to read 2.3 Bar and re-set the system.

That was about 3 weeks ago.

A couple of days ago I got a warning that the offside front had lost pressure. I checked it and found it was the same as I'd left it.

I re-set the TPMS again.

Yesterday me, my wife, 2 adult children and our dog went to the New Forest for a walk and we had to drive over a bumpy track to where we parked.

on leaving the bumpy track and getting back onto the road the TPMS warned that my near side rear had lost pressure.

Just checked all tyres and they are still all OK.

Re-set again!

Is the system super-sensitive? (Can the sensitivy be changed?)

Obviously I'd rather know if there's a genuine problem but is this normal?

Cheers,

John

 

 

 

The system isn’t ‘proper’ TPMS. It doesn’t measure pressure using a special valve, it measures wheel revolutions and calculates pressure from there. These cheap systems are a legal requirement as every car now has to have TPMS. I find the system on the Citigo can throw up extraneous warnings, but the Octy has never given me one. If it’s becoming regular, you’d best get back to the dealers unless you can plug it in yourself.

Thanks Sasha,

The Scout is going in on Thursday for the new battery so I've emailed the dealer to get them to check the TPMS out while under warranty.

The fact that the last time it gave a warning was just after we drove over a bumpy track whilst fully-laden seems a bit co-incidental to me!

As Sasha says it's a crude system which essentially just measures the difference in rolling diameter  between the wheels. If you were on rough ground it's perhaps conceivable that the deformation of the tyres caused by the terrain, particularly if loaded, was enough to alert the system. But worth asking the garage about it if the car's in anyway. 

I’ve had plenty of false warnings. Best to check the pressure when the tyres are cold (as in not warmed up by recent use), inflate to the correct pressures if necessary, then reset the system.

 

Like Sasha says, it isn’t the cleverest system on the market.

Edited 12 March, 20188 yr by MorrisOx

The system has never thrown any false messages for me except when I have changed the wheels & forgotten to reset the system.

In this case I get a general warning rather than a specific Wheel.

 

For me, the fact that it constantly triggers on the same Wheel suggests a problem, perhaps a damaged sidewall?

The system measures an average over time so I dont see that driving over a bumpy road for a few metres would trigger an errror after you reach the normal road.

 

As you have done I think its best to get it checked out at a dealer because I have had the same system on several cars & its pretty robust.

Also it can be a warning of something other than just a tyre / circumference / pressure issue.

 

A binding brake / bearing etc meaning that wheel is getting hot, and the tyre is and a pressure change.

So as well as checking the tyres / pressures when cold,  check the pressure when the warning happens, and feel for a hot Hub / Wheel.

I've had 2 warnings on my Scout.  

 

First was after having my new tyres fitted and they hadn't reset the system, the 2nd time was when I had a nail in the rear tyre .... 

 

What's the recommended pressures as I can't remember off the top of my head....your running yours at 33 bar and I know I set mine to 36 bar

5 minutes ago, ScoutCJB said:

I've had 2 warnings on my Scout.  

 

First was after having my new tyres fitted and they hadn't reset the system, the 2nd time was when I had a nail in the rear tyre .... 

 

What's the recommended pressures as I can't remember off the top of my head....your running yours at 33 bar and I know I set mine to 36 bar

I hope you meant you set the tyre pressure to 3.6 bar.

I hope not even that.  52psi is a very ECO setting.

14 hours ago, Warrior193 said:

I hope you meant you set the tyre pressure to 3.6 bar.

 

Sorry I meant 36 psi ..... I dont work in bar 

 

Edited 14 March, 20188 yr by ScoutCJB

On 31/10/2017 at 13:55, Nickj633 said:

 

Just to reinforce my point.

 

I had a severe blow out in Scotland in September, and due to the crap repair kit had to call out RAC. ignoring the boring parts, when the new tyre was fitted i followed what i thought was the correct procedure for resetting the TPMS, but a few days later i kept having the warning 'bong' but with no detectable problem with the tyre. once i took the time to read the manual, i saw that after you change a tyre, to correctly re set the system it MUST be done with the engine off. So turn on the ignition, boot up the infotainment, go to the TMPS, press the relevant buttons to re-set, the turn the ignition off straight away. This will store the new figures, you can then start the car as normal. After doing this i had, and still have had, no false alarms.

 

Nick

 

Again thank you all for your advice.

I re-set the system when we got back from our walk on Sunday afternoon and it has been stable ever since.

I presume that, if I genuinely had a tyre that was deflating, the system would have given me another warning by now.

The car is being picked up tomorrow morning to have the new battery fitted and I have asked the dealer to check out the TPMS while it's in the workshop.

 

 

8 hours ago, Johnfella said:

 

I presume that, if I genuinely had a tyre that was deflating, the system would have given me another warning by now.

 

 

 

It don't believe it identifies slow pressure loss only quicker loss (however you quantify that!)

It worked for me on a very slow puncture and a loss of 4 psi but only when I got to 50mph and a discernible difference could be detected in wheel speeds. 

All tyres deflating equally / slowly over time might well get no warning.

Got the new battery fitted yesterday and now consistently reading 90% so that seems OK now. The Service Manager said he'd tested the entire TPMS and all the sensors and re-calibrated it and haven't had any more warnings on a round trip to Swanage today so "so far so good". He also said he'd changed the Lambda Sensor which is the subject of a re-call so that was good. My wife drove today and I was seriously impressed how quiet and smooth the car is from a passenger's point of view!

^^^

Did you get a letter or call Recalling your car for the Lambda Sensor.

If not no RECALL as they like to call it, just a Service Campaign / TPI.   Pity they never seem to know the difference.

http://master.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/recall-actions 

If he tested the TPMS sensors then it can’t be a wheel speed based system.

 

 

Or he is lying.....

I think he said sensors but I might have misinterpreted what he said. Anyway I'll keep an eye in it! 

On 3/12/2018 at 17:22, Johnfella said:

Hi again. Gradually getting used to the Scout and, thanks to this forum now know a lot more about what the knobs and switches do. I love driving it apart from the annoyance of having to switch the stop/start off every journey as I find it disconcerting!  

The only other thing.....

On the first day I took delivery the TPMS said that the nearside rear had lost pressure. Hence I checked all the tyres and, in actual fact the pressure in that tyre was around 2.5 Bar whilst the other 3 were at around 2.3 Bar.

I changed them all to read 2.3 Bar and re-set the system.

That was about 3 weeks ago.

A couple of days ago I got a warning that the offside front had lost pressure. I checked it and found it was the same as I'd left it.

I re-set the TPMS again.

Yesterday me, my wife, 2 adult children and our dog went to the New Forest for a walk and we had to drive over a bumpy track to where we parked.

on leaving the bumpy track and getting back onto the road the TPMS warned that my near side rear had lost pressure.

Just checked all tyres and they are still all OK.

Re-set again!

Is the system super-sensitive? (Can the sensitivy be changed?)

Obviously I'd rather know if there's a genuine problem but is this normal?

Cheers,

John

 

 

 

Mine activated after the re-map on Monday just ignored and re-set straight away. Checked all my tyres at work today and found them all at 2.5bar. Pumped them up to the recommended 2.7bar for VRS245.

@AwaoffSki When my new 64reg DSG Scout was being prepped they applied recall action 23W9 which was to replace a batch of faulty lambda probes which were giving poor mpg. I just found Gomezz's post about this same recall on 26th March.

Edited 10 April, 20188 yr by Hermit

That does not show as a Recall on a DVSA / DVLA site does it, just a Recall action then where the VW Group have contact details and not ones they  get from the DVLA,  Not Safety Critical, and even some that are obviously safety critical do not get RECALLS,  Heated seats risk of fire or injury type ones.

so Registered Keepers might never be told.

 

Did '23W9' show here?  Skoda should at least have all Service Campaign Actions, or as Dealers might call them 'Recalls' show.

http://master.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/recall-actions 

Edited 10 April, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

The service record just showed that during the prep of the car for handover '23w9 completed'. When I later asked what this action was the service manager told me it was a recall for a bad batch of probes because they were giving poor mpg. I can't check now as nothing is outstanding. Both Gomezz and myself have 64plate DSG 184 Scouts so it may only apply to that time period, that engine, that model or a combination.

 

Gomezz had the action applied when the car was at the dealership for other work. My car hadn't been at the dealership since a year previous.

 

If any of us is servicing outside of the Skoda network I guess its our responsibility to keep checking the link you've given - assuming 23w9 is on there. I doubt it's a safety issue so they're not obliged to inform all reg keepers I suppose.

 

@andyasjl Have you had this fix on you 15plate DSG Scout? If not does it come up on the recall link in previous msg?

Edited 10 April, 20188 yr by Hermit

That is the point, there are lots of Service Campaigns or as they now call them Recall Actions that are not there, 

known as Skoda Secret Service campaigns,  on a need to know basis very often, and ssshhh all owners need not know.