Today I used ACC. 19 miles of motorway and the rest suburban roads. It was raining heavy so really did'nt rush. Set speed to 65mph.Thought mpg was pretty good.

Looks good.... petrol or diesel? Which engine?

1.5 TSI petrol. With ACC it seems to stay in 2 cylinder mode longer.

WOW, congrats. 

Impressive.

 

I took it steady the other day on the way to work, kept around 70 on the motorway parts of my journey and got above 50 mpg which I was pleased with. But it can vary. This morning I had to put my foot down to overtake so on the same journey only got 44 mpg. On my journey home I haven’t managed to get above 45 mpg I think either because of traffic or the big hill at the end really kills the mpg.

That's pretty good mpg.  I do a lot of motorway trips cruising at around 65 - 70mph and the best I have achieved is 49mpg.  I have now done 1,500 miles and have noticed that the mpg figure is improving as the engine loosens up.  I'll try setting the cruise control to 65mph and see if I can get above 50mpg like you.

I've set myself a target. 60 mpg! Today was in Eco mode. Next week I will try Normal then Sport mode. On the motorway got up to 56mpg. It was relaxing to let the car drive itself although when it nears another car it does slow down a bit. I did'nt attempt to overtake anyone except when I got near motorway exit.

I've got about 700 km (430 miles) on my car now. Been driving in the city with heavy traffic and on the motorway with the car filled with furniture and other stuff, so it's been really heavy. Right now it shows me that the l/100km (MPG) is 6,8 l/100km (41.5MPG). Its really good by my standards but I reckon i'll get it even more down because the car shows me that after the last refueling the fuel consumption has been 5,8 l/100km which is 48,7 mpg.

 

Considering that with my last car the best results I got were around 9,7 l/100km (29 MPG) it's a really good improvement. But the more realistic consumption with my previous car was around 12 L/100km (23 MPG). When I was considering the Karoq I calculated the fuel cost with 7 l/100km (40 MPG) and found out that I would be spending about 50% less money on fuel. I've got the 2.0 TDI 4x4.

 

Oh and btw I've read that the fuel consumption should go down after the engine has had it's break in period.  

 

 

Edition 1.5 tsi DSG. .Only done about 250 miles so far, but put my first lot of petrol in yesterday and found that I had got 200 miles from 21litres of fuel. Not bad as so far I haven’t done any long trips.  I have had diesel cars for the past 15  years, so  I am used to good mpg. My Superb 2ltr returned over 43mpg over seven years, but I’m not expecting such good figures from my 1.5 petrol engine, so it’s encouraging that you guys are getting such good figures. 

 

 

Using the ACC does seem to improve mpg, as I can be a bit lead footed at times. Huge improvement over the cruise controls on previous Mercs and Skoda, well worth the extra cost. I use it to stay within speed limits in built up areas and on an incline notorious for police using mobile speed traps to catch drivers whose cars have drifted over 30mph going downhill I can feel the ACC slowing the car as gravity tries to speed it up. Previous CCs would not do this.

I would advise using the fuel you actually put in the car to measure your MPG. The trip computers tend to be rather optimistic on VAG cars (sorry to rain on your parade). My last car was out by 8% which is significant. Good news is that this can be corrected by VCDS / OBDleven as there is a scaling factor that can be applied to the calculation. Run a few tanks through and calculate your true mpg before deciding if your MPG meter needs correction.

On ‎29‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 17:22, Tenchfisher said:

Edition 1.5 tsi DSG. .Only done about 250 miles so far, but put my first lot of petrol in yesterday and found that I had got 200 miles from 21litres of fuel. Not bad as so far I haven’t done any long trips.  I have had diesel cars for the past 15  years, so  I am used to good mpg. My Superb 2ltr returned over 43mpg over seven years, but I’m not expecting such good figures from my 1.5 petrol engine, so it’s encouraging that you guys are getting such good figures. 

 

 

Using the ACC does seem to improve mpg, as I can be a bit lead footed at times. Huge improvement over the cruise controls on previous Mercs and Skoda, well worth the extra cost. I use it to stay within speed limits in built up areas and on an incline notorious for police using mobile speed traps to catch drivers whose cars have drifted over 30mph going downhill I can feel the ACC slowing the car as gravity tries to speed it up. Previous CCs would not do this.

I've only got experience with the 1.4tsi in the Octavia but the efficiency of these small turbo petrol engines is quite remarkable and the advanced 1.5tsi should be even better so I'm not surprised by the claims being made and owners obvious delight.

Luckypants suggestion of double checking the consumption displays against actual is a good idea as is checking the speedo against a GPS (and odometer if you are as pedantic as me).

 

Picking up on your comment on the ACC slowing the vehicle downhill can you tell if it is changing down and using engine braking or is it using the brakes?

The 1.4tsi in my car provides the least amount of engine braking by far compared to any previous car I have driven. Even a medium gradient and 3rd gear (manual) provides very little retardation and requires continual use of brakes. Not a real problem because where I live is mostly flat.

Is the 1.5tsi similar or does it seem to provide greater braking than I describe?

 

The Karoq  release in Australia is being brought forward to this June, initially with 1.5tsi engine, DSG only and 2WD. The 1.5tsi is not the Euro super clean version (no GPF) as our emission regs lag behind yours and our petrol does not match the low sulphur content of the Euro market.

 

 

 

Edited 30 April, 20188 yr by Gerrycan

WLTP / Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test

 

Does that not mean the manufacturers are going to be building engines / vehicles for 2019 that are tested and can reproduce those test results around the world when retested.

So not just EU Test results that Merican Testers or Australian Testers find are pure fiction.

5Only done about 250 miles so far, but put my first lot of petrol in yesterday and found that I had got 200 miles from 21litres of fuel. Not bad as so far I haven’t done any long tripsso far. I have had diesel cars for the past15  years, so  I am used to good MPG. My Superb 2ltr gave mr over 43mpg over six years, but I’m not expecting such good figures from my 1.5 petrol engine

 

 

 

Gerrycan, not sure, but it feels  like braking to me. I have to admit I haven’t been checking the gears when the car slows to keep within the set limit on the ACC. Next time I go down the incline I will check, but it’s definitely braking when slowing down in traffic that’s coming to a halt. It’s a bit of a leap of faith at first and l still have my foot hovering over the brake, but so far it hasn’t let me down.

I get similar mpg as the OP. Cruise if the road is damp is ok but probably not advisable if heavy rain means a risk of standing water.

14 hours ago, Offski said:

WLTP / Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test

 

Does that not mean the manufacturers are going to be building engines / vehicles for 2019 that are tested and can reproduce those test results around the world when retested.

So not just EU Test results that Merican Testers or Australian Testers find are pure fiction.

Dunno.

WW1 and WW2, despite the naming, did not involve all countries around the world.

I would not say that all EU test results were totally fiction going by my experiences with a mk2 Octavia 1.9pd or my current mk3 Octavia 1.4tsi which has averaged 6.1L/100 over 44k km against the official combined of 5.7L/100 despite a disproportionate number of really short 2km urban runs. The last 1300km driven mostly by my wife included 1000km of open road but with car heavily laden with furniture and other 'chattels' and still averaged 5.5L/100.

Conversely I could not get some claim cheating Korean vehicles (petrol) I owned within a bulls roar of their official consumption (and I never read of any other driver in their forum who ever claimed matching it either).

The Japanese consumption tests were even more lenient than the EU tests but it turns out most of the Japanese manufacturers cheated on those as well.

 

It surprises me in this day and age that manufacturers are not compelled to put up a web page where you can input the parameters for your driving environment (there would a be a lot) and get a calculated likely return.  Proof whether you have a consumption 'lemon' would be as simple as putting it on a rolling road and determining consumption for a given loading (speed/resistance).

Emissions while being driven on roads where fiction in many vehicles compared to tested under EU testing.  Found to be irregular and implausible and even cheated,  eg September 2015 & VW Emissions Scandal is revealed.

 

Hence this new tests that are supposed to have results that can be reproduced when it is not the manufacturers being carried out.

Still the tests are not of a vehicle loaded as it might be at maximum revenue weight.

 

Obviously some vehicles meet or exceed Manufacturers Published Figures they achieved inside on a rolling road, 

we know that because many of us get these figures that were for comparison only. 

Some get them without hypermiling and just because they are driving in a way that gives good economy.

They might even be driving in a less polluting way because the Emissions System is operating in the best temperature range.

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx 

 

Hyundai / KIA were not allowed to take the pith in every World Region.

Hyundai and Kia Fined $100M (€80M) for Lying About Their Cars' Emissions.mhtml

Hyundai, Kia to reimburse owners of some 172,000 vehicles in Canada _ Globalnews.ca.mhtml

 

Not that many people drive cars at 'Kerb Weight / Unladen weight'  even if it has all the Optional Extras included, 

a 7 seater might get 7 occupants and luggage and a 2 seater sports car might get a driver and a passenger. 

Why test a 2,4,5,6,7 seater as though it is a one seater, and not show the performance / efficiency laden and unladen?

 

 

 

Edited 1 May, 20188 yr by Offski

1.5 TSI Manual Eco mode. So back from work today ACC set at 65mph. Dry and warm. 1st test 53.7mpg. 2nd test today 57 2mpg. I know I have not tested the proper way by filling up the tank and refilling yet. But less fuel in car means less weight!

Either way this is excellent and renders diesel obsolete in most cases.

13 hours ago, Zengt12 said:

1.5 TSI Manual Eco mode. So back from work today ACC set at 65mph. Dry and warm. 1st test 53.7mpg. 2nd test today 57 2mpg. I know I have not tested the proper way by filling up the tank and refilling yet. But less fuel in car means less weight!

 

Those figures are very impressive, I don't think we've ever gone over 42pmg on our manual.  These are our long term figures from the OBC:

 

 

Average for me so far after 430 miles is 39.5mpg. Most of that in normal mode but a few 30 mile trips to work in last few days were in Eco. 

 

Doing Southampton to Blackpool in a few weeks so that will be a good test! 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Ricey7000 said:

 

Those figures are very impressive, I don't think we've ever gone over 42pmg on our manual.  These are our long term figures from the OBC:

 

 

Change up from 2nd gear, you'll go faster and be more economical  

The town driving does kill it a bit, I have a one hour drive to work everyday (20 miles, so surprisingly 20mph average) and I'm getting similar figures to this, although I've been averaging around 40ish with the ACC set to 75-80mph on the motorway.

1.5 TSI SE Tech. Today I got 61mpg. Same journey home from work. Any incline I turned ACC off just feathered throttle but still maintained speed. Most of the way home I did'nt really go above 60 as I was following a lorry. He had his cruise on. Suprisingly drving slower did not add extra time to journey. Just fewer cars at the junctions.

Really impressed with the fuel consumption. Just racked up 2000 km (1200 miles) on my Karoq and the average consumption has mostly been around 5,7l/100km. 

Wife's Karoq 1.5Tsi SEL manual now done 3,233 miles since January and achieved best return today on 26 mile commute 58.9MPG. Air con off in ECO as it was only 9.5degrees outside at 5.05AM.