I currently run a Mark Two TSI estate (2013) but will probably change to a Mark Three TSI estate( 2016/17) next year It could be the 90bhp or the 110bhp version.. I must have a spare wheel, the tyre weld stuff is no use to me at all.  I hope to negotiate a full size spare wheel as part of any deal. However, if  the car was otherwise a really good deal I would want to transfer my spare on a steel wheel. It has between 3 and 4mm  which I am happy with as a spare. It has to fit however and my spare is a 195/55/15 H . Will this fit a Mark Three TSI  estate  or are all the tyres bigger than this? If so I will have to return to negotiating a spare as a part of the deal with no concessions!  It would be so easy to just  transfer my existing spare but then it occurred to me that it might not fit. I think a few of the Mark Three Fabia TSIs  have 17inch wheels which would rule out my spare?  Thanks folks.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

I have 17" wheels with a spare, size is 185/60/15 on a steel wheel.

The 185/60x15 is 0.8mm dia less than a 215/40x17  which is on the car , so same size. 

Dia is 603mm.

Edited 11 June, 20187 yr by brian245

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/450994-hetty-1 

I ordered a spare wheele when the car was being built 3 years ago i found the options a bit cofuseing i ordere what i thought was a full size wheel with a steel rim and not the space saver It fills the well but still has the 80 k speed limit sticker i can only assume its smaller than the alloy wheeles fitted to the car Joe

Although a proper tyre on a steel wheel,mine is smaller than the ones fitted to my car.

 

As it's mine as I paid for it as an extra,am I at liberty to keep it when I come to trade it in? I'm on a PCP.

 

Edited 18 June, 20187 yr by RickW

1 hour ago, RickW said:

Although a proper tyre on a steel wheel,mine is smaller than the ones fitted to my car.

 

As it's mine as I paid for it as an extra,am I at liberty to keep it when I come to trade it in? I'm on a PCP.

 

 

If you own the car you can indeed keep it. I suppose the only proviso would be if you traded it in to the supplying dealer who may value it based on the specification as delivered.

 

If no spare I am sure the purchasing garage would expect to see a can of gunk and an inflator with it though.

 

Bill 

So, when you asked for a spare wheel, I'm guessing that it was placed into the wheel well before you collected the car, and if so, did the supplying dealer remove the gung and compressor? That would be a very unfortunate situation as when you return that car without your property in it (the steel spare wheel), as said above the receiving dealer would need to sort that out, better to clear that up before handing back time?

2 hours ago, rum4mo said:

So, when you asked for a spare wheel, I'm guessing that it was placed into the wheel well before you collected the car, and if so, did the supplying dealer remove the gung and compressor? That would be a very unfortunate situation as when you return that car without your property in it (the steel spare wheel), as said above the receiving dealer would need to sort that out, better to clear that up before handing back time?

If the spare wheel and tool kit were put in prior to you picking up the vehicle you should have been given the contents of the spare wheel well, the gunk, etc. as you had paid for them and part of the spec of the car, unless, of course, the vehicle was specced up for the spare at the time of ordering.

When I changed my Yeti I asked the dealer to transfer the spare from my p/ex. Having checked later they also left the compressor and gunk.

 

I didn't expect that - I thought they would transfer that to my old Yeti. Probably a mistake on their part.

 

Bill 

 

 

Edited 18 June, 20187 yr by lawnmowerman

The Fabia III in this country ( UK ) can come with three sizes of wheel/tyre for the car and two sizes of spare wheel/tyre.

The car wheels can be 17'' alloys, 16'' alloys and 15'' alloys or steels.

 

The spare wheel/tyre can be a space saver or a 'full size steel' which is 15''. 

This full size steel spare has a 185/60 R15 tyre fitted to it.

 

So if you have a Fabia III with 15'' steel wheels on the car and a 'full size' spare they are all the same.

The 'full size' spare wheel will by default come with the speed warning sticker on it.

 

If you ordered any spare then you will also have the jack and wheel brace in the kit that fits inside the spare wheel.

If you have 15'' alloys on the car you can order a new alloy and then have a spare which is also the same as the rest.

 

The 15'' alloy is a tight fit in the spare wheel well but does fit.

The 17'' alloy and the 16'' alloy will fit in the spare wheel well but will raise the boot floor mat up.

This is because these wheels are wider than the 15'' one.

 

HTH.

Thanks AG Falco

Does a 16" or 17" alloy with a 205 or 215 really lift the floor, or a 195/55R 15 spare as fitted in Mk2 Fabia spare tyre wells.

Sorry, if I explain further:-

 

I ordered my Fabia III with 15'' alloy wheels and a full size steel spare. 

With the steel wheel and the tool kit inside it, this fitted flush with the boot mat.

See the photo from RickW above, the green car.

 

I also ordered a new alloy wheel to use as my spare in the boot. 

I then fitted this alloy with the tyre that was on the spare steel wheel and put this in the boot.

 

But when I put the tool kit in the boot it was higher than before.

This is because the tool kit foam bottom sits on top of the inner hub face of the alloy.

Because this alloy wheel is thicker than the steel it raised the level up.

 

So it is not the width of the tyre that is the problem but the ( reverse ) offset that is the problem.

A wider wheel will normally have an inner hub face that is further away from the outside face of the tyre.

Thus increasing the height of the top of the tool kit.  HTH.

 

Thanks AG Falco

You just secure the alloy wheel down with something not as large as the black wind down handle, or trim the Tool insert and it sits lower.

Simples.

 

In the red Mk2 that is a Gigaro 17" alloy  one with a 205/70 R 17 & another with a 215/40 R 17. (Edit) Same foam insert as comes with a Mk3.

Edited 28 June, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

@AGFalco Can you adjust the shape of the toolkit foam bottom, that it will fit under the boot mat?  In my Fabia I, I had also an alloy spare wheel (195/50 x 15), and no fitting problem, but the toolkit was not made of foam but made of plastic. Maybe the toolkit holder of the Fabia I and similar cars can solve this problem.

 

In my Fabia I, I added a small universal jack and a rubber block to the tool kit. In the combi (estate)  this fits between the spare wheel and the back door, under the boot mat. In my Fabia III there is more than enough space to put it in the same place. Some pics from my Fabia I, I have to make similar pics with my 2016 Fabia. I see the photo of the jack in the boot is with steel rim, later I replaced the steel rim by an alloy rim.

 

1 hour ago, Offski said:

You just secure the alloy wheel down with something not as large as the black wind down handle

If you look at the second picture you can see that the black wind down handle is not touched by the tool kit

Yes cutting the top or the bottom will lower it.

 

 

1 hour ago, Offski said:

Same foam insert as comes with a Mk3.

It looks like they have changed the insert on the Mk III compared to the Mk II.

Look at how the jack is open and sideways in the Mk II and upright in the Mk III.

The photo from RickW show this better.

 

Thanks AG Falco

If it helps for anyone thinking about changing from the foam insert to a plastic insert, 9N Polos came with the plastic inserts as do the 6R and 6C Polo - so there should be plenty around in scrap yards.

Hi all, so where is the best place to get a 15" full size spare wheel then? My fabia is on 16" alloys with inflating kit. Do dealers sell them or am I better looking at scrapyards. What's the going rate just to have in mind.

If you buy a 15'' alloy as a spare wheel when you have 16'' wheels on the car then

you would have to treat this as a temporary spare wheel only.

You can't have different size tyres/wheels on the same axle unless it is a temporary spare.

You would also need to have the yellow speed warning sticker on it.

 

So you could buy the steel temporary spare with the yellow warning sticker on it.

Or you could buy a 16'' alloy matching the rest on the car.

BUT see if this fits in the boot first with the tool kit as well.

 

Dealers can sell them, or a TPS if they will sell to you.

 

Thanks AG Falco

 

 

15" steel and original 185/60x15 tyre will fit in the boot without problems.  When you choose a 16" wheel, it's likely that the rim is not only bigger, but also wider (J-size). The toolkit may fit eaysily, but maybe the rim and tyre themselves are to high under the boot mat. If you choose a 16" spare wheel, you have some math to do.

1 hour ago, AGFalco said:

If you buy a 15'' alloy as a spare wheel when you have 16'' wheels on the car then

you would have to treat this as a temporary spare wheel only.

You can't have different size tyres/wheels on the same axle unless it is a temporary spare.

You would also need to have the yellow speed warning sticker on it.

 

So you could buy the steel temporary spare with the yellow warning sticker on it.

Or you could buy a 16'' alloy matching the rest on the car.

 

Yes of course, this will be just in case temporary measures to get me to the tyre place. Do you or any other members would know if the following specifications for the steel wheel would be correct. I got these details from my tyres.com after entering my car details

Rim details

Rim type	5-hole steel wheel
Size	6 x 15
Bolt pattern	5 x 100.00 x 57.00
Offset	38.00

 

1 hour ago, AGFalco said:

 

 

 

Steel spare in 6C Polos is that size, maybe even the slightly earlier 6R Polos as well, I'm just trying to expand your options at a scrappy/ebay.

 

Edit:- part number of the Polo one is 6R0 601 027 E  - that is if that description that you got from mytyres is correct, I've found them to be correct in the past.

Edited 20 June, 20187 yr by rum4mo

@EdHru I think your numbers are right. If size 6 x 15, means 6J x 15 I guess that's right, but maybe it should be 6.5 x 15.

Boltpattern 5 x 100 mm is ok, about the centerhole I doubt between 57.0 en 57.2 mm (but it is the same size for every VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda since the very first Golf)

Offset 38 mm (mostly marked on the rim as 'ET 38') is also right. Not only the Fabia mk III has these specifications but also Seat Ibiza (since approximately 10 years), I don't know when the Polo is gone to these specifications. Fabia Mk. II and Mk I can have the same specifications except for the offset thats 43 for these cars. Another option is a 15" alloy wheel of the first generation Audi A3, these cars have also the right ET (offset). My Fabia MkI had 4 alloy wheels from a 1996 Audi A3, and later I added an identical alloy wheel from scrap yard, which fitted perfectly in the boot including the (old) toolkit.

Simples, you have a car, it has 4 wheels, remove one and try it in the spare tyre well.  It will fit.   Go buy a 5th wheel the same and the same tyre.

 

Even with the same tyre as on the rim if brand new slow down if it is brand new and on as a spare. Be sure the tyre pressure matches the tyre on the same axle.

If you put on winter tyres then unless you get a 5th one the spare will still need you to slow down.

If the car has directional tyres then there is a 50 / 50 chance the spare matches the side that has a puncture.

 

BRISKODA For Sales, a good place to look for a Spare / Tool Kit.

Edited 20 June, 20187 yr by Offski

On 20/06/2018 at 22:05, rum4mo said:

Steel spare in 6C Polos is that size, maybe even the slightly earlier 6R Polos as well, I'm just trying to expand your options at a scrappy/ebay.

 

Edit:- part number of the Polo one is 6R0 601 027 E  - that is if that description that you got from mytyres is correct, I've found them to be correct in the past.

 

Just found this on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-POLO-2008-2016-15-FULL-SIZE-STEEL-SPARE-WHEEL-AND-TYRE-TOOL-KIT/323112958850?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49130%26meid%3D494df4105d264919acea79974778aaf8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D113070184061%26itm%3D323112958850&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

 

Seller doesn't know if it would fit my fabia. What do you guys recon? I spoke to my nearest Škoda dealer and they quoted me £160 for the same.