After dieselgate, it appears Audi have allegedly been caught with their pants down again (a bit like Merc are alleged to have been)

 

https://www.thelocal.de/20180508/audi-halts-a6-production-over-new-emissions-cheating-report

 

Cars are allegedly reducing AdBlue consumption when the tank gets low to “stop it running out between services” . This has the effect of emissions increasing due to the lower AdBlue quantities injected.

 

With the article claiming it is affecting the A6, I wonder if it will turn out it affects the Superb or other models too?

17 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

 

Cars are allegedly reducing AdBlue consumption when the tank gets low to “stop it running out between services” . This has the effect of emissions increasing due to the lower AdBlue quantities injected.

 

With the article claiming it is affecting the A6, I wonder if it will turn out it affects the Superb or other models too?

Nah, Skoda’s have warning light Adblue needs topped up, and won’t start if it goes too low. Couldn’t  possibly have Audi owners touching wee could we.

Edited 13 June, 20187 yr by Kenny R

2 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

Nah, Skoda’s have warning light Adblue needs topped up, and won’t start if it goes too low. Couldn’t  possibly have Audi owners touching wee could we.

 

I hope that’s the case, but with a 66L tank and iirc a 13L AdBlue vs 40/12 or 55/24 on the A4, you’d hope it was 66/24 or the superb

With the new UK law on emission cheating devices leading to £50,000 fines per car coming into effect on July 1, manufacturers might stop selling just about anything.

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/103682/carmakers-to-face-emissions-cheating-fines-of-50000-per-car

I think they should fine VWAG for the car tax that wasn’t paid. £35 car tax that should have been £140/200/400...

 

Times that by every cheating TDI on the road and that’s a big number to HMRC.

Never happened though, the last Transport Secretary was made a Sir and Chairman of the Conservative & Unionist Party & Philip Hammond MP did ziltz,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_McLoughlin 

then Chris Grayling MP and Philip Hammond still have done ziltz.

They will be well thanked in the future no doubt.  

Haymarket Media Group /  Sir Michael Heseltine / Autocar / What Car etc seem to report about as much or little as they car get away with on the matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Media_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Heseltine 

Special jobs for special people, help VW purchase Bentley, help David Cameron with Industry, Motor Industry, Investments and being Deaf, Dumb & Blind.

How much UK Treasury Investments & Royal Family Investments are in the VW Group?

Edited 13 June, 20187 yr by Offski

How bizarre and unnecessary.

 

All they have to do is put a meter on the adblue tank and make it easy to top up. But no they have to hide it and try to trick people into coming in the dealership to sell them pig **** at £8 a top up plus labour.

 

They could even use cartridge type refills  if they don't want owners to get their hands mucky. Thought personally I think I'd rather get adblu on my hands than diesel.

If Karcher can do it with shampoo I'm sure the might of the motor industry could come up with a plug and play system for the boot or bonnet.

It is an odd one.  My SEAT 2.0TDI SCR 150ps Euro 6 DSG arrived with delivery miles and 7,000 mile range showing for the Ad-blue.

After the first refill @ over 7,000 miles covered and some 800 miles range left it showed as 7,500 mile range.

Next refill and it showed a 8,000 mile range.

Now it seems to have adopted  some kind of sipping of ad-blue mode & extended range,  or just more ad-blue is going in each time. 

 

My Superb came (delivery miles) with 6500 miles in the ad blue tank and after 2400 miles driving it shows 5500 miles (but only goes down in 500mile increments)

 

i wonder if it will switch to 100mile increments when it gets to 1000miles

I am just concerned after being bitten once not to get bitten again.

How will you ever know until the sharn hits the fan if it does.

There was no more Das Auto just 'honesty', only they are not telling anyone anything unless they are caught bang to rights then they still play dumb.

 

If true, it’s smells a lot like same arrogance from the emissions scandal.

 

Some poor engineers get banged up in prison and the allegations in that article make it sound like not much changed.

 

why not just fit a bigger tank to the system if you don’t want to to run out, or engineer the system to be more effective with less of the AdBlue agent etc?

Edited 13 June, 20187 yr by cheezemonkhai

Not heard much since there was media coverage about an investigation into the cartel of manufacturers that meet to agree tank sizes, parts prices etc.

Maybe that is an ongoing investigation.

German industry fears image blow over cartel probe.mhtml

BMW reassured top staff about cartel allegations_ sources _ Reuters.mhtml

Edited 13 June, 20187 yr by Offski

Oops, another billion euro fine.....

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/92893/vw-emissions-scandal-recalls-compensation-is-your-car-affected-latest-news

^^^ Is this a new fine imposed, a new story?,  the comments section with the article is from 3 years ago.

Autoexpress does this a lot, rehashed articles.

Yes new fine, new story

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions-dieselgate/vw-fined-one-billion-euro-by-german-prosecutors-over-dieselgate-idUSKBN1J92AI

 

So the UK is now going to make VW AG pay all the emissions charges such as road tax that HMRC missed out on and ban imports until this is paid right?

 

£100 a year in road tax evaded, 10 year life of a car, so £1000 per car. How many of the affected cars were on the road?

 

£100million per 100,000 cars would be very helpful for the NHS, mental health care etc.

Edited 14 June, 20187 yr by cheezemonkhai

"Further steps would be taken to overcome the diesel cheating scandal and to restore trust in the company, Diess said."

 

Good luck with that. 

3 minutes ago, Wino said:

"Further steps would be taken to overcome the diesel cheating scandal and to restore trust in the company, Diess said."

 

Good luck with that. 

Steps will  be taken to make sure we are not caught again...

19 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

£100million per 100,000 cars would be very helpful for the NHS, mental health care etc.

I'd rather the money went to repairing and improving the roads. 

 

The amount I've paid out recently on replacing suspension components is ridiculous. 

9 minutes ago, Fin69 said:

I'd rather the money went to repairing and improving the roads. 

 

The amount I've paid out recently on replacing suspension components is ridiculous. 

Also a valid use.

 

basically, come on HMRC make VW pay up.

Edited 14 June, 20187 yr by cheezemonkhai

?

So does a Billion Euro fine in Germany go into the German Treasury or to the EU's, and what is stopping the other EU Counties taking VW Group to court and seeing what fines might be imposed,  obviously only if they are guilty, but then was that not proven in the German Court!

2 hours ago, Wino said:

"Further steps would be taken to overcome the diesel cheating scandal and to restore trust in the company, Diess said."

 

Good luck with that. 

 

Its that trust thing is my issue.

Short list for my next car includes a Superb or Octy vrs 2/3.

But the budget im likely to have (next yr) put me right slap in The middle of dieselgate era "fixed" cars. I dont really want a "fixed" car with possible bills or issues because. Of whats been done to it. 

So, a 2.2 mazda6 sportback TS is likely. Diesel in the oil anyone??

Going to be a hard choice :(

 

Look for cars with the ea288 engines.

 

euro5 ones in the Octy 3 are very cheap at the moment and the engine is the same engine the eu6 cars use with some tweaks. It didn’t need the fixes to the ea189 engine because it didn’t have the cheat.