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22 hours ago, skidpan said:

Why anyone would want to use ACC in town, in busy traffic or in poor weather conditions is beyond me. In those situations I want to be in instant control and relying on technology can dull your reactions regardless of good a driving god you think you are.

 

With the Superb (and other cars with ordinary CC) we have always restricted its use to M ways, dual carriageways and A roads but only when traffic and other conditions are suitable. As Skoda (and other manufacturers) themselves say "The ACC is designed primarily for use on motorways".

 

It really scares me when other posters declare how little they know about their cars.

Sorry but I disagree. You can use Skoda ACC in city and it does not mean that you can take a nap doing it. If you take it as a side help and if you are still 100% consentrated on driving, then it is a good help even in town but if you start using it as an autopilot, then you are ****ed. When I use ACC in town (that I do constantly), I break and accelerate my own (for example in case of traffic lights) but when I drive around, I always have ACC on because you can hardly drive near speed limit in bigger cities. And it works like a charm when used in such way. I dont have to fiddle with break and accelerator pedals like crazy to match the tempo with the car in front. 

 

Every day I spend 1,5-2 hours driving around in a city and I would not imagine my life without ACC anymore. 

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  • Sorry but I disagree. You can use Skoda ACC in city and it does not mean that you can take a nap doing it. If you take it as a side help and if you are still 100% consentrated on driving, then it is a

Sounds like you’re talking about traffic jam assist.

4 hours ago, cheezemonkhai said:

Sounds like you’re talking about traffic jam assist.

It's both for me. ACC on its own is great in 20mph zones as it allows me to keep my eyes on the road rather than constantly staring at the speedometer when the roads are clear. When the traffic is bad, the ability to accelerate and brake automatically with the flow of traffic (TJA) is really helpful. But as previously stated it is an assist system only, not a substitute for driver input. 

@BriskodaJeff, you said out something very important for me about ACC. It gives you an option not to stare your spidometer. When I start the drive in city, I set ACC to 60 km/h even before using it. And when I drive I activate ACC so I don't have to stare spidometes as I know my car will not go over set value if I don't want to. And it helps a lot when slower speed limit area is ahead. One click on ACC lever and it's set to 50 km/h and I don't have to worry about crossing the speed limit. 

 

Superb does not yet have head-up display so staring a spidometer is a real pain for me. 

Wow.....looking down at the speedometer is a problem when driving a car?!?!?!

 

I normally glance, instead of stare, at the speedometer, cause I need my eyes on the road while driving.

 

.....then again, each to their own........

 

3 hours ago, JR RS said:

Wow.....looking down at the speedometer is a problem when driving a car?!?!?!

 

I normally glance, instead of stare, at the speedometer, cause I need my eyes on the road while driving.

 

.....then again, each to their own........

 

Not sure how things are in Oz, but in the UK a whole stack of new 20mph zones have sprung up. No problem with that - they are often around schools etc. But have you tried driving at exactly 20mph? It feels fundamentally unnatural. And FYI a mate of mine got done for 23mph by a mobile radar - three points, fine, and no doubt an insurance hike when the renewal comes. So yes, in those zones the tendency is to spend far too much time looking at the speedo not the road. ACC reduces the need for that. I also happen to live in an area that likes to overdo these things - so to get from where I live to Clifton Downs I am likely to be in a 20mph zone constantly for 15 mins or more. 

 

Don't get me wrong - the principle is laudable. Impacts at 20mph are much less likely to cause death or serious injury than at 30mph. But I wonder whether we will see over the coming 10 years an increase in the number of (less catastrophic admittedly) crashes as peoples' attention is on the speedo not the road ahead. I guess we'll wait and see. In the meantime, anything that helps me to stay legal and keep my eyes outside the car is a good thing and I'll use it.

 

15 hours ago, alf.onso said:

It gives you an option not to stare your spidometer. When I start the drive in city, I set ACC to 60 km/h even before using it. And when I drive I activate ACC so I don't have to stare spidometes as I know my car will not go over set value if I don't want to. And it helps a lot when slower speed limit area is ahead. One click on ACC lever and it's set to 50 km/h and I don't have to worry about crossing the speed limit. 

 

That is surely where you should be using the speed limiter. You won't go over the speed limit but you are still in full control.

 

4 hours ago, JR RS said:

Wow.....looking down at the speedometer is a problem when driving a car?!?!?!

 

I normally glance, instead of stare, at the speedometer, cause I need my eyes on the road while driving.

 

.....then again, each to their own........

 

 

If looking at the speedo was such a problem when driving it would worry. Its something I have been doing for 44 years with no issues.

2 minutes ago, skidpan said:

 

That is surely where you should be using the speed limiter. You won't go over the speed limit but you are still in full control.

A very valid point and one I hadn't thought of. Thanks.

@skidpan, correct me if I'm wrong but Superb ACC does not have a speed limiter functionality. And speed limiter has annoying function to ... well limit the speed. I want to be in full control and exceed the speed limit if I want to. With ACC I can do that, with speed limiter I can not.

 

Before I bought a car with head-up display, I also didn't have any problem with looking at speedo. After that looking the speedo feels like cutting wheat with a sickle istead of using the harvester. Superbs ACC lets me almost forget the fact that it does not have head-up display.

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22 minutes ago, alf.onso said:

@skidpan, correct me if I'm wrong but Superb ACC does not have a speed limiter functionality. And speed limiter has annoying function to ... well limit the speed. I want to be in full control and exceed the speed limit if I want to. With ACC I can do that, with speed limiter I can not.

 

The Superb does have a speed limiter, you toggle between ACC and limiter using a button under the stalk. To override the limit temporarily just press the accelerator to the floor overcoming the click, simple as that.

 

22 minutes ago, alf.onso said:

Before I bought a car with head-up display, I also didn't have any problem with looking at speedo. After that looking the speedo feels like cutting wheat with a sickle istead of using the harvester. Superbs ACC lets me almost forget the fact that it does not have head-up display.

 

If you cannot change from one vehicle to another without issues you obviously lack experience or confidence. Never had an issue myself and most have had far more fundamental differences than the lack of head up display. But why not change the display between the speedo/tach to the digital speedo, even a blind idiot can see that.

13 minutes ago, skidpan said:

 

The Superb does have a speed limiter, you toggle between ACC and limiter using a button under the stalk. To override the limit temporarily just press the accelerator to the floor overcoming the click, simple as that.

 

 

If you cannot change from one vehicle to another without issues you obviously lack experience or confidence. Never had an issue myself and most have had far more fundamental differences than the lack of head up display. But why not change the display between the speedo/tach to the digital speedo, even a blind idiot can see that.

skidpan, I think our understandings are just too different and cant be overcome:) Yes, I can't beat your 44 year driving experience as I only have 25 year of it. 

Lets just agree to disagree on that one:D

2 hours ago, BriskodaJeff said:

Not sure how things are in Oz, but in the UK a whole stack of new 20mph zones have sprung up. No problem with that - they are often around schools etc. But have you tried driving at exactly 20mph? It feels fundamentally unnatural. And FYI a mate of mine got done for 23mph by a mobile radar - three points, fine, and no doubt an insurance hike when the renewal comes. So yes, in those zones the tendency is to spend far too much time looking at the speedo not the road. ACC reduces the need for that. I also happen to live in an area that likes to overdo these things - so to get from where I live to Clifton Downs I am likely to be in a 20mph zone constantly for 15 mins or more. 

 

Plenty of 40km/h school zones here in Oz too, and I drive through a few every morning to work, including dropping two of my own kids at school.

 

In my opinion - being able to control ur speed on ur own accord, no matter wat speed it is, is basics and fundamental for driving. 

If a person relys on driving aids to control the driving, then it's a worry.

 

Sure, the Superb has ACC, so why not?

I love ACC, just realised today that lane assist actually steers and keeps you in lane ( I thought it just went stiff as you went near a line), it realised after a few seconds I was letting it steer and it told me to take control, a few seconds later it gave a quick jab of the brake to "wake me up" had I been asleep, nice to know it's there just in case.

8 hours ago, Baggins said:

I love ACC, just realised today that lane assist actually steers and keeps you in lane ( I thought it just went stiff as you went near a line), it realised after a few seconds I was letting it steer and it told me to take control, a few seconds later it gave a quick jab of the brake to "wake me up" had I been asleep, nice to know it's there just in case.

 

that's the Traffic Jam Assist in action there, not ACC.
Adaptive Lane Guidance + ACC = Traffic Jam Assist

the first time i showed her the "look no hands" feature to the wifey she had a hissy fit and panicked!!! almost grabbed the wheel she did.
lol.

 

I must have been really lucky.............to have managed without acc.............for nearly 50 years.

1 hour ago, Sad555 said:

I must have been really lucky.............to have managed without acc.............for nearly 50 years.

 

Ha! All these things you didn't know you needed! Even DSG. I can never go back to manual after this. ACC. I never used cruise control in my old car because it was useless on our congested motorways. Now, you can even use it in motorway work zones and traffic jams. DCC. Who knew you needed multiple suspension settings? Instead of one setting that's never completely right, I have three settings that are never completely right. Sat/Nav. How did I ever find my way anywhere? Ever?

 

On my motorcycle, it was heated handlebar grips and an electric windscreen. Now I have a sunroof if I want to get wet while I'm riding. Do I need a heated steering wheel, too? 

 

Fully automated driving scares the life out of me. I remember when it used to be fun to drive. That's how old I am!  :D

3 hours ago, freelunch said:

On my motorcycle, it was heated handlebar grips and an electric windscreen. Now I have a sunroof if I want to get wet while I'm riding. Do I need a heated steering wheel, too? 

 

Ah, but does ur motorbike have a heads up display so u don't have to look all the way down at ur speedo?!?!

Ha......

Maybe one day, motorbike helmets will "connect" to the bike and be able to project ur speed and other telemetry stuff, via a HUD onto the visor ;)

On 21/06/2018 at 15:09, silver1011 said:

I drove a 2017 hired VW Golf GTD the other week with ACC and was keen to try it out to see what all the fuss was about.

 

It didn't take me long to make my mind up. It just makes you look like an idiot.

 

I was in lane 2 of a dual carriageway, 70mph.

 

Two lorries, nose to tail, well ahead of me in lane 1.

 

The second lorry indicates, pulls out of lane 1 into lane 2 and proceeds to slowly overtake the first lorry.

 

Without ACC I'd have reacted as soon as I saw the lorry indicate by easing off the accelerator and closing the gap without having to brake.

 

ACC however, did not notice the lorry until it was fully in lane 2, and therefore maintained the set speed of 70mph whilst the lorry changed lanes. This meant that by the time ACC had detected the lorry it had no choice but to brake heavily. I was a split second from hitting the brakes myself.

 

All the other cars behind me had also seen the lorry's indicator and already gently reduced their speed without drama.

 

All those other road users were thinking the guy in-front of them (me) is clearly a plonker with zero anticipation skills, was on his phone, or is just a crap driver.

 

To make the situation worse, ACC didn't resume the set speed until the lorry was fully back in lane 1, leaving me sat in lane 2 with a clear road ahead of me and a line of cars behind me, being held-up.

 

I suspect those drivers by this point had made up their mind. I was a ****.

 

Perhaps I didn't give it enough of a chance, but ACC was left turned off for the rest of the time I had the car.

 

 

 

Agree with you, fella.

I use the Driving Assistant Plus on my BMW (which is being replaced with a Superb shortly) and I only EVER use it when I am in the slow lane of a motorway.  Just set it at 70mph (which it rarely gets to) and just poodle along. It's useful in those circumstances as it becomes far less of a pain to other drivers (still has some issues from time to time at junctions, though).  If I want to hustle along on the fast lane, I simply don't use it. 

1 hour ago, JR RS said:

 

Ah, but does ur motorbike have a heads up display so u don't have to look all the way down at ur speedo?!?!

Ha......

Maybe one day, motorbike helmets will "connect" to the bike and be able to project ur speed and other telemetry stuff, via a HUD onto the visor ;)

 

Did I have a speedo?! The only input I really took notice of was the whack across the back of my helmet if my darling pillion passenger thought we should have stopped a hundred miles back. Now I don't even have that that to worry about, as I gave up biking in July last year. Don't really miss it, either. I've fully committed to four-wheel motoring – and the 300-page manual that comes with it!  :D

I use the ACC (set in ECO mode - at Close distance on the Mway and Far distance in city) all of the time, it's useful in city for managing speed/distance on dual carriage ways (40MPH) etc, I don't like to use it at speeds much slower than that due to some niggles it has in processing certain situations.  However on the Motorway its excellent - it's only once cut it a bit close due to a vehicle moving into it's path.  I'm always alert at whats going on around me though and cut it off if the need arises.

Hi everyone,

 

Can someone help me out with this problem about adaptive lane guidance:

 Every time when i start my car, I have to turn on "adaptive lane guidance"  on the Columbus menu each time.

 

Any solution for this?

I personally find it has pros and cons. I only ever use in on motorways and find that most of the time I preferred normal cruise control. I find that because I have it set to a safe distance, I hang back too much that people cut into the gap in front of me, thus making the car brake again and I just fall back in line. On the whole though it works quite well.

 

Few weeks back driving on a dual carriage way, the car in front of me decided to stop in lane 1 to let a car join from the slip road, stopping rather abprutly from 60 to almost a standstill. Because I had anticipated the car joining, I was looking in my right mirror to lane change, before I knew it I was rapidly approaching a now stationary car in front. In that split second I was moving my foot to the brake pedal, ACC had already began an emergency stop. Crash avoided, me rather embarrassed and annoyed, but thumbs up for ACC. Wouldn’t rely on it 100% of the time, but nice safety feature.

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48 minutes ago, WPUK said:

I personally find it has pros and cons. I only ever use in on motorways and find that most of the time I preferred normal cruise control. I find that because I have it set to a safe distance, I hang back too much that people cut into the gap in front of me, thus making the car brake again and I just fall back in line. On the whole though it works quite well.

 

Few weeks back driving on a dual carriage way, the car in front of me decided to stop in lane 1 to let a car join from the slip road, stopping rather abprutly from 60 to almost a standstill. Because I had anticipated the car joining, I was looking in my right mirror to lane change, before I knew it I was rapidly approaching a now stationary car in front. In that split second I was moving my foot to the brake pedal, ACC had already began an emergency stop. Crash avoided, me rather embarrassed and annoyed, but thumbs up for ACC. Wouldn’t rely on it 100% of the time, but nice safety feature.

 

Yes but my questions was:

Can someone help me out with this problem about adaptive lane guidance:

 Every time when i start my car, I have to turn on "adaptive lane guidance"  on the Columbus menu each time.

 

Any solution for this?

33 minutes ago, skodasuperb2018 said:

 

Yes but my questions was:

Can someone help me out with this problem about adaptive lane guidance:

 Every time when i start my car, I have to turn on "adaptive lane guidance"  on the Columbus menu each time.

 

Any solution for this?

 

Perhaps you should start another thread for that. 

On 25. 6. 2018 at 16:51, hwr1983 said:

I use the ACC (set in ECO mode

 

What's the difference for ACC in other modes?

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