Greetings fellow Skoda owners,

I bought a 2018 Fabia 1.0 95 SE TSI yesterday. I absolutely love the car. It's fantastic.

Just wondered, how do you actually tell if your car is a TSI apart from the registration paperwork? There are no markings as far as i can see on the engine. Can you tell from the VIN?

Assuning the MPI engine is the same as the CitiGo, the letters MPI should be on the top. If not, you have a TSI. 

 

Alternatively; have a drag race with a glacier. If you lose, you don’t have a TSI. 

MPI's come only in 60 & 75ps.   

& look at the Build Sticker in the boot and cars sticker with weights and power on it, bottom of door pillar. and a Turbo fitted to the engine....

The fact that it is a 95PS engine tells you it is TSI. You would not get this high a figure without turbocharging from a 1.0L engine.

I agree with the above, it sounds like it should be a TSI, if it uses petrol and if it has a turbo charger fitted it will be a TSI - maybe get out there and buy a TSI badge for the rear hatch?  The engine code will be on the build data sticker as well, in big letters on the LHS near the top with the transmission on the same line but towards the RHS.  Then with that engine code, maybe try to see what Google says about it?

DomiDarko - In case you didn't know TSI stands for "Turbocharged Stratified Injection" and the 1.0L TSI engine has a turbocharger as the TSI implies. As I said above you would not get 95PS otherwise.

Audi have TFSI what does that translate to?

 

Bill 

Turbocharged and Supercharged, I believeve.

TSI  & Audi TFSI, what does that translate to?    More / extra money for a 'F'.  (or is that f-all?)

  TSI & TFSI engines in most cases being the same.  

 

DSG /  s-tronic,  same things,  DSG 40,000 Miles for Wet Clutch Oil changes as per VW, Skoda, SEAT.   38,000 with Audi s-tronic. 

 Vorsprung Durch Technik.   Fool some of the people some of the time....

Edited 2 July, 20188 yr by Offski

Alltorque - There is no supercharging involved. As Offski says TSI and TFSI are the same thing. Just different (and confusing) marketing ploys.

TFSI on a Audi sounds posher than TSI.

 

Davy

There is the 1.4 TSI Twincharger 132 kw,  & the 1.4 TFSI Twincharger in the Audi 136kw,  Same engine, different Software, Plugs and Coils,  supposedly.

actually not really different when you check them out.

 

PS

TFSI's in Skoda, just as possible to go wrong in a Skoda.

Edited 2 July, 20188 yr by Offski

TSI are  commonly cam chain driven whereas TFSI are mostly , if not all, cam belt driven

Well obviously not all Cam Belt with 1.2 TSI / TFSI's, & 1.4 TSI / TFSI's, like  the ones with Timing Chain Tensioner issues as an example.

Thanks for the replies,

I don't doubt its a TSI as it pulls pretty hard, especially in 2nd gear. Just weird that there are no markings at all.

I'm not an engine expert so i've no idea what the turbo looks like or where it should be. Anyone know?

Cracking car though, i look forward to every trip! My last car was a 2006 Aygo so i'm feeling spoiled.

Edited 2 July, 20188 yr by DomiDarko

The TFSI comes from when VW first started using the HPFP and direct injection on their naturally aspirated cars which were 'FSI' Fuel Stratified Injection.

 

Then the T was added to models with the turbo. Looks like somewhere along the line they decided certain marques and brands from VAG would drop the F

1 hour ago, SuperbTWM said:

The TFSI comes from when VW first started using the HPFP and direct injection on their naturally aspirated cars which were 'FSI' Fuel Stratified Injection.

 

Then the T was added to models with the turbo. Looks like somewhere along the line they decided certain marques and brands from VAG would drop the F

 

Exactly! 

 

I thought that some of the original features that made some engines "FSI" were dropped quietly, which makes it a bit strange that Audi held onto the "F" in future engine designations.

 

Other crazy Audi/VW things, names include Audi use quattro and VW use 4Motion, but at least in the past, one VW 4Motion system was actually a quattro, and obviously a few quattro systems in Audis are just 4Motion.

19 minutes ago, rum4mo said:

 

 

Other crazy Audi/VW things, names include Audi use quattro and VW use 4Motion, but at least in the past, one VW 4Motion system was actually a quattro, and obviously a few quattro systems in Audis are just 4Motion.

 

Quattro and 4 motion are the same thing, just a Haldex coupling with a bit of difference in the programming depending on model/variant. LandRover also use similar systems designed by Haldex in their smaller cars such as the freelander 2/discovery sport

 

There are a few exceptions on higher end models I suspect where things might be a bit more custom, and obviously the Toureg and Q7 models use a different 4x4 system altogether,

Oh no, actually it is quattro not Quattro!   Anyway, some quattro have Haldex coupling, most have Torsen coupling, conversely, some 4Motion have Torsen coupling, most have Haldex, though I do agree with you about the big pickup and some other big VW Group cars.

'True' quattro cars (longitudinal engine, the A4 and up) have the Torsen, while the Golf-based A3 and TT (transverse engined) both have the Haldex system branded as quattro.

 

The TFSI/TSI is just different branding for the same engines. Doesn't make 2 bits of difference whether they're chain or belt cams. The old 1.4 TSI Twincharger that was in the Mk.2 Fabia VRS was branded as both TSI and TFSI. The supercharged V6 in the likes of the S4 is branded as a TFSI even though it's not got a turbo. The current 1.0 and 1.5 TSIs that are found in the Fabia, Octy etc are branded as TFSIs in the A1 and A3. The first-gen 1.2 TSI (as in the facelifted Mk.2 Fabia) and the 2nd-gen 1.2 TSI (in the Mk.3 Fabia) were both branded as TFSI in Audis, even though the first-gen was chain and the second-gen was belt.

 

TSI and TFSI are just brand names for the newer boosted (either super or turbo charged) direct injected engines from VAG. 

Only thing I disagree with you is that while "we" think the T equates to Turbo charging, it seems that it means forced induction so covers both methods of forced induction, in the case of the Audi S4 the wing badging is V6T which drives lots of owners to swop these badges for a special edition Audi US version which had official Supercharger wing badges fitted, I've just stuck with V6T as fitted at the factory!

The Fabia vRS is super charged and has a Turbo but is still badge as a TSI. The 3l engine in Audi is also badged as TFSI when is supercharged.

 

And Audi / VW called engines Dual Charged and many of us refer to them as Twinchargers.

VW likes confusion and so much from German is lost in Translation to Czech, Spanish, English and US English let alone to other languages.

'Kompressor'  as an  example. Mercedes, then the other manufacturer of Ultimate Driving Machines gets folks confused with Twin Turbos. and Italians with Twin

Air.

 

'1.4L 1.4 TSI with Dual Charging.'

Just as well Golf 1.4 TSI Hybrids and Audi 1.4TSI Hybrids are no more and order books closed, an VW Group Dual Charging will soon just be about 

Plug in Hybrids and Full EV's.  

VW Group will no doubt continue to confuse buyers though.

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Edited 4 July, 20188 yr by Offski

20 hours ago, rum4mo said:

Only thing I disagree with you is that while "we" think the T equates to Turbo charging, it seems that it means forced induction so covers both methods of forced induction, in the case of the Audi S4 the wing badging is V6T which drives lots of owners to swop these badges for a special edition Audi US version which had official Supercharger wing badges fitted, I've just stuck with V6T as fitted at the factory!

 

This. The engines are all forced-induction engines with FSI direct injection technology. The T just sounds cool!

 

I have to say though it would annoy me if I had a car with the 3.0 supercharged engine and had V6 T badging on it. The badging would have to go... T should be turbo!

On 7/2/2018 at 17:05, Skodaboy1983 said:

TFSI on a Audi sounds posher than TSI.

 

Davy

My mk2 Octy vRS had a TFSI.  

 

I believe the TFSI moniker was dropped by VAG when they completely redesigned their forced induction petrol engines.  More torque, cleaner burning, more economic and more efficient was the blurb IIRC.  Engine codes also got changed so I don't think this was a marketing exercise, eg. they did actually change the engine and it's component parts.