Health & Safety gone mad - BEAT THIS IF YOU CAN !

[The Zee]

Picture this.

 

London Bridge Station concourse, height of this mornings rush hour.

Three workmen dressed in high viz orange jackets and trousers complete with hard hats.

First workman in front with arms outstretched to the side.

Second workman behind the first pushing an empty wheelbarrow.

Third workman behind the one with the wheelbarrow with arms outstretched to the side.

Thankfully the wheelbarrow made it safely across the concourse without any tragic accidents, which would have obviously lead to the closure of the station and inconvenience to thousands of passengers.

 

When on earth did we get to the situation where three people are being paid to transport one innocuous wheelbarrow. It wasn’t even a new one, so suppose that the risk of theft was not the reason for such security.

 

[Ootohere]

It worked you noticed the Workperson with wheel barrow and escort, i take it nobody ran into them and so had no reason or excuse to make a claim using a Claim Company and costing Rail users and non rail users thousands if not millions of quid.

No pain and not opportunity for a claim, unless the Wheel Barrow Operative has not had training and assessments. They might get back pain....

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/453444-slater-and-gordon-accident-solicitors 

 

Edited 6 September, 2018 by Offski

[Aspman]

London is a bit more claim happy than other places. Someone has calculated that this is ahte cheapest way to do things. Cheaper than court action.

 

Anyway if you'll excuse me I have to do my "sitting in a chair in an office H&S training". That's not made up

[KenONeill]

Well, I also have to do "computer-based not falling out of a chair with arms" Elvin Safety training, every year!

[mac11irl]

As above really, its been assessed as the least potential cost for getting it done.

 

Its worth remembering that as a public service body NR and their contractors deal with spurious claims Every day. If someone banged and cut their shin getting out of bed that morning, they could have walked into the barrow and sued for thousands. Prove the barrow didnt cut their shin..

 

I agree its pish, but... i have to deal with similar on all my jobs too..

[The Zee]

2 hours ago, Aspman said:

London is a bit more claim happy than other places. Someone has calculated that this is ahte cheapest way to do things. Cheaper than court action.

 

Anyway if you'll excuse me I have to do my "sitting in a chair in an office H&S training". That's not made up

Yep, I have had to do that as well.

[Jfhuk]

The best I’ve been on was the BBC one hour course on how to adjust you’re chair. 

[fabdavrav]

Common sense..two words which have been eradicated from the English language....

See also, dumbing down. & thick sh1tes, & B.V.A....

[robt100]

Had similar at work with Elven saftey going mad. We all got given step ladders so as to be able to affix smoke alarms etc to ceilings in homes. But, on the very first step was a sticker saying: "Do not step above this step" so our wonderful step ladders had a total working height of about 6 inches

[Ttaskmaster]

On 06/09/2018 at 09:38, The Zee said:

When on earth did we get to the situation where three people are being paid to transport one innocuous wheelbarrow?

 

When walking around with your face buried in your mobile phone became the default way of life, and such safeguards became necessary in densely populated areas...

Why do you ask? 

 

On 06/09/2018 at 09:38, The Zee said:

Health & Safety gone mad - BEAT THIS IF YOU CAN ! 

 

OK, sure...

It's a punishable offense to remove your hard hat during wet weather, without wearing eye protection.

 

New H&S regulations usually come in because of something that somebody did and got hurt in the process.

Now, I work in the water industry. We have gangs that go out on site in full hi-viz PPE. One wet and rainy day, a bloke reached up to take his hard hat off and the loose, wet Velcro™ cuff of his hi-viz jacket swung round, catching him right in the eye. Fortunately he wasn't blinded, but the company lost  three man-days due to the bloke being off work with the injury. An in vestigation ascertained that the rain water added extra weight to the Velcro™ cuff flap, making it swing with greater force into the worker's eye.

A bulletin and toolbox talk was issued to all company members, advising them of the new regulations. Each person must sign to say they've been made aware.

 

[VWD]

12 hours ago, robt100 said:

Had similar at work with Elven saftey going mad. We all got given step ladders so as to be able to affix smoke alarms etc to ceilings in homes. But, on the very first step was a sticker saying: "Do not step above this step" so our wonderful step ladders had a total working height of about 6 inches

Years ago a regulation came in about needing fall protection if working a set height above the ground. Then (AFAIK) it was changed to any height where the operator felt it was needed. Next time you're on a HSE cousre when the instructor is a jobsworth type, draw the converstation  round to working  under false /suspended ceilings. Then ask how you secure yoreself safely under one of these when the true ceiling is say 10 foot high.

But if we get more summers like one gone, I'm waiting for working time regulations to come in about how long a wark party can stay in the sun with all that gear on.

Edited 7 September, 2018 by VWD

[Auric Goldfinger]

I watch the Sky Man fit our Sky dish to the wall. It needed to be fitted quite high. The sky man put up his ladder, climbed into his safety harness, donned a hard hat, climbed the ladder, then clipped himself to the ladder, the ladder wasn't secured to the wall so I'm thinking, Ladder falls your going with it.

[camelspyyder]

That's not extreme H&S.

Kevlar reinforced boxers plus Carbon reinforced cycle shorts plus Osprey carbon body armour to protect the family jewels (As worn by Uk Mil in Afghanistan).

 

That is EXTREME H&S.

 

 

 

 

Edited 7 September, 2018 by camelspyyder

[Ootohere]

Memories.  Do any others of a certain age think of this song as they ever have anything to do with Barrows or Ladders.

 

 

[Jfhuk]

3 hours ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

I watch the Sky Man fit our Sky dish to the wall. It needed to be fitted quite high. The sky man put up his ladder, climbed into his safety harness, donned a hard hat, climbed the ladder, then clipped himself to the ladder, the ladder wasn't secured to the wall so I'm thinking, Ladder falls your going with it.

 

Then there’s the other Sky man extreme, he drilled four holes in the wall, attached various support lines and put on more kit than the English Everest expedition. Then spent about two mins changing the LNB and about ten minutes deinstalling the rig and getting rid off all the safety gear.

[VWD]

Now not having anything better to discuss, we find the Elves have got into the loo.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/way-put-toilet-paper-holder-210100277.html

Are You Putting Your Toilet Paper On The Holder Properly?

Auric, like me, will remember days of being ( not working, who works) on the railside with pools of water infested with rats leavings and sometimes the luxury of a portaloo ( on worksites), where you always carried a roll of paper, and then  some HSE person is worried about a brief brush with a wall.

[Ttaskmaster]

On 07/09/2018 at 12:56, camelspyyder said:

Kevlar reinforced boxers plus Carbon reinforced cycle shorts plus Osprey carbon body armour to protect the family jewels (As worn by Uk Mil in Afghanistan).

That is EXTREME H&S.

 

Not especially - Not when the conditions themselves are pretty extreme and having your undercarriage blown off can have you bleeding to death in a really nasty mess, while screaming your head off in front of the blokes.

Having to wear all that just to change a lightbulb would be extreme!

[camelspyyder]

2 hours ago, Ttaskmaster said:

Not especially - Not when the conditions themselves are pretty extreme and having your undercarriage blown off can have you bleeding to death in a really nasty mess, while screaming your head off in front of the blokes.

Having to wear all that just to change a lightbulb would be extreme!

Oh God yes. I really appreciated how much our kit improved since 2001. Back then we didn't even get issued decent boots, let alone worthwhile body armour or other protection.

[camelspyyder]

On 08/09/2018 at 12:27, VWD said:

Now not having anything better to discuss, we find the Elves have got into the loo.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/way-put-toilet-paper-holder-210100277.html

Are You Putting Your Toilet Paper On The Holder Properly?

Auric, like me, will remember days of being ( not working, who works) on the railside with pools of water infested with rats leavings and sometimes the luxury of a portaloo ( on worksites), where you always carried a roll of paper, and then  some HSE person is worried about a brief brush with a wall.

 

A portaloo wasn't a luxury in Iraq I can tell you (outside in the sun when the shade temperature was 50 plus)

 

A totally disgusting place to be - I tried to train myself to poo at 5 AM after work (the coolest time of day to use the Turdis)

[mac11irl]

Turdis.

 

 

Thats a good one

 

[VWD]

Spotted a HSE notice in the drive of a local house ,where work was being done within the premises. Notice was in the drive ,beside a barrier preventing access to drive. Listed the requirements to work on site. Usual stuff -hiviz, hat,boots/ safety glasses , and right at bottom there was " SITE SPEED LIMIT" .

Just in case there were high speed builders

[VWD]

Meanwhile the speed limit has moved to 5mph , metal fencing has surrounded the front garden ,with warning signs. But is the warning on one sign about dangers inside or the presence of  a Turdis close to the fence

i remember those things from days on the WCML . Even worse at 2AM, on a Sunday night. Trek down the side of a station ( built up area) ,gasping for a pee. Open door to a fresh sort of smell. Two minutes later, hot pee wakes up the mess beneath and the smell---.

Edited 20 September, 2018 by VWD

[mac11irl]

International ploughing championships was postponed yesterday due to the risk (from storm Ali) that someone would be hit in The face by a flying turdis... quite a few Turdii blew away overnight.. not a clean up i wish on anyone.. well maybe drug dealers...

 

I have never to this day (35yrs) dropped a log in a turdis, even avoid them for piddle time as much as possible. Ironic, maybe, as I'm the one that orders them for delivery to project sites in my area

 

i try to get Eco7 welfare pods instead when I can though..  everything is just so much nicer then... and we get a kettle and heating on site!

 

https://www.securicabin.com/our-products/detail/mobile-welfare-units-eco-7-range

 

[Ootohere]

'Mitie'  are not bothered with H&S and workers.

The young lady out painting the rones of the 1st floor flat on a rainy morning is up and down that ladder and moving it around pretty quick with nothing or nobody securing it.

 

Not so bad on the grass or gravel but on the slabs, concrete or tar it is just so 'old skool cool'.  Get on with the job, you do it every day...

Edited 3 October, 2018 by Offski

[mac11irl]

Wouldnt be so bad if it was the right angle... and even just dug into the ground to first step so its a bit less likely to keel over sideways when it sinks...

 

 

 

Its still Fking wrong though