I've searched through the forums but can't find an answer to what I'm looking for.  I'm wanting to get a spare key blade only made to keep as a spare that I can hide externally just in case I ever loose or lock the keys inside.  I just need the blade only not the whole remote bit.  I went into my local Timpson's today to ask about it but the guy in there didn't seem to know much.  He said that he didn't have a blank for a Skoda and I could possibly try a different branch.  I asked how much it would be and he said he wasn't sure but thought it was "around" £40.  I explained that I only wanted the blade not remote bit and he said he couldn't do anything for me.  So not sure whether to try another Timpsons or try a different key cutter.  Has anyone had just the blade cut as a spare and what was the price ?

Ask if he's got a blank for VW or Seat? He might not know that they're the same. I assume Audi too.

24 minutes ago, Rodge said:

Ask if he's got a blank for VW or Seat? He might not know that they're the same. I assume Audi too.

I did explain that it would probably be the same as other VAG cars but it fell on deaf ears !  I've just found this  https://keysinthepost.com/product/skoda-emergency-key-transponder/

It's just what I'm looking for and they get good feed back.  If I can't find somewhere local I might give them a try.

I had to get a new blade cut a couple of months ago. Local locksmiths did it for me for circa £20. Find an independent who's knows their ****. 

Not much help, but how on earth can you lock the keys in the car? Genuinely curious because I've never done it in over 11 years of car ownership. Do you not have a spare anyway?

7 hours ago, ahenners said:

Not much help, but how on earth can you lock the keys in the car? Genuinely curious because I've never done it in over 11 years of car ownership. Do you not have a spare anyway?

Unlock the car with the remote but only open the boot, go through a long winded loading process & shut the boot with the key in the boot as you put it down during the loading process.

 

As a golfer I did it after playing golf & before going into the clubhouse, was a company car too, took some explaining !!!

11 hours ago, ahenners said:

Not much help, but how on earth can you lock the keys in the car? Genuinely curious because I've never done it in over 11 years of car ownership. Do you not have a spare anyway?

 

I've never locked the keys in any of my cars in 50 years of car ownership and yes I do have a spare key/remote fob but don't want to hide that somewhere externally that's why I'm just wanting a blade only then at least I'd be able to open the door and get inside.  It's all very well saying to leave the spare keys with neighbour/friend/relative if only a short distance from home but not if I was, and quite often am, hundreds of miles away from home.  Hiding a spare key on my cars is something I've done for many years and luckily have never needed to use one yet.  But not all of us are perfect and just one day I might be stupid enough to loose or lock the keys inside.

So when you said 'externally' you didn't mean around the house somewhere, you mean physically attached to the car, externally!?

 

Where are you thinking!?

15 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

So when you said 'externally' you didn't mean around the house somewhere, you mean physically attached to the car, externally!?

 

Where are you thinking!?

 

Haven't figured that one out yet.  Thinking of a small plastic box with a strong neodymium magnet attached so shouldn't fall off.  For years I used one of those cheapo magnetic key holders and it never fell off.  With more plastic bodywork on cars now I'd have to look further up into the chassis area.  Wherever I do put it I'll not be telling anyone 

1 hour ago, silverden said:

 

I've never locked the keys in any of my cars in 50 years of car ownership and yes I do have a spare key/remote fob but don't want to hide that somewhere externally that's why I'm just wanting a blade only then at least I'd be able to open the door and get inside.  It's all very well saying to leave the spare keys with neighbour/friend/relative if only a short distance from home but not if I was, and quite often am, hundreds of miles away from home.  Hiding a spare key on my cars is something I've done for many years and luckily have never needed to use one yet.  But not all of us are perfect and just one day I might be stupid enough to loose or lock the keys inside.

 

Was genuinely curious because I couldn't think of how you could even lock the key in a car. I have Kessy so I'm not even sure it's possible, the car can sense the key in the boot, or cabin and you can't lock it.

 

I still think it's a nuts idea and a questionable solution to an incredibly unlikely scenario. Never say never, but the fact you have never done it in 50 years confirms this. Do you never park up anywhere with some valuable contents in the car? There's always the possibility someone looking hard enough will find it the blade and be able to get into the car.

 

Could you not keep the spare blade somewhere else, in your wallet, behind your phone in a phone case or something else you're likely to have on your person and take most places?

Edited 14 October, 20187 yr by ahenners

50 minutes ago, ahenners said:

Was genuinely curious because I couldn't think of how you could even lock the key in a car.

Breakdown companies get called out to lots of people every year who somehow manage it.

Edited 14 October, 20187 yr by Rodge

As mentioned earlier, on cars without KESSY, the design of Skoda (and most other VAG models) key fobs have a middle button specifically to open the boot, a nice feature.

 

However, if you approach the car when it's locked, and open the boot using the middle button, only the boot opens, all other doors remain locked.

 

If you then place the keys on the boot floor while you load or unload the boot, then forget to pick them up and close the boot, the boot locks.

 

Fine if you remember never to place the keys down in the boot, but most people have to learn once.

9 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

Fine if you remember never to place the keys down in the boot, but most people have to learn once

 

1 hour ago, silver1011 said:

If you then place the keys on the boot floor while you load or unload the boot, then forget to pick them up and close the boot, the boot locks.

You can change an adaptation channel to delay the boot locking, see Enable trunk lid lock delay

16 hours ago, ahenners said:

Not much help, but how on earth can you lock the keys in the car? Genuinely curious because I've never done it in over 11 years of car ownership. Do you not have a spare anyway?

I’ve done it on my Audi because of the boot release button on the boot on VAG keys. All the other cars I’ve had with a boot release button unlocked the boot but the VAG one locks the boot again when it’s closed and it’s really easy to leave the keys in the boot. I’ve enabled lock delay on the bootlid on my car to prevent this from happening again. For me this kind of stuff happens when switching from manufacturers and cars with different ways of doing things. The Mercedes won’t let you lock the keys in the car, the keyless entry won’t allow it.

VAG's KESSY system won't allow it either.

As silver1011 say KESSY  won't allow it.

I know because I have messed around with this ALOT just to see if it was possible to lock the car witk the key inside.

 

This is actually a problem if You have the car serviced or something and want to pick it up after closingtime: the garage can not lock Your car with key inside, so to they have to hide the key outside the car, but then again at a distance, otherwise the car opens when You grab the handle!

 

I solved it like this:        Mounted a hook high up in the engine bay. The garage now opens the hood/bonnet and lock the car. Hang the key on hook. Close hood/bonnet.

At this position the KESSY will not allow the car to be opened, and You can not access the key from under the car.  And of course I use the spare key when i collect.

 

Tip for hiding spare blade:  Pop out a sideindicator ligt and tape the blade to the wire harness with  black electrical tape. Even if You have the light out you would not notice it unless You know it is there!  On a Civic 86 I had many years ago, I did this with a front parking light: Just two phillips bolts to get Access!

 

(I have NOT done this on the car i have now)

 

ArvidG

 

 

 

 

On 14/10/2018 at 13:56, silver1011 said:

As mentioned earlier, on cars without KESSY, the design of Skoda (and most other VAG models) key fobs have a middle button specifically to open the boot, a nice feature.

  

However, if you approach the car when it's locked, and open the boot using the middle button, only the boot opens, all other doors remain locked.

 

If you then place the keys on the boot floor while you load or unload the boot, then forget to pick them up and close the boot, the boot locks.

  

Fine if you remember never to place the keys down in the boot, but most people have to learn once.

 

I once was visiting family friends miles from my home. Went out to get something from the boot of the car using the boot only unlock option. Back in the house for the party, partied through the day and when it was time to leave couldn't find my keys. Searched high and low, thought I ended up leaving them in the boot. Was supposed to then have a friend drive me home for the spare, luckily found that I had kept the keys on the chimney mantel. However with the boot unlock and then auto-lock on closure, it is very easy to keep your keys in the boot if you are hauling stuff out and then close the boot lid with the keys inside. You have to consciously keep reminding yourself not to put the keys down. Difficult when you are distracted, multitasking and managing your young kids around. 

 

Having a spare blade hidden somewhere can be a lifesaver. And since it doesn't include the RFID chip, a thief can't drive away with your car. 

On 14/10/2018 at 12:29, ahenners said:

Could you not keep the spare blade somewhere else, in your wallet, behind your phone in a phone case or something else you're likely to have on your person and take most places?

 

The wallet would be a great idea... since it's always on you. 

Since I was the one who originally started this post I thought I'd just give an update on how I've progressed.  After trying several local places that make car keys I was unable to find one who could make me just a blade and the ones that could do it wanted anything from £25 upwards for the pleasure.  No way was I going to pay that sort of money so in the end I went with  https://keysinthepost.com/

 

They got very good feedback so thought I'd give them a try.  Just gave them the key number and a photo of the key blade.  It was £16 including signed for delivery.  It came the next day.  Great service.  The key fitted perfectly, both in the door lock and the ignition.  So I've now found a great place to hide the key that's reasonably easy to get at.  And no, I won't be saying where that is   I know previous posts have suggested keeping the key in a wallet.  I don't always carry a wallet so that wouldn't do for me.  For the other negative posts who thought it was a bad idea, well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but it suits me and that's all that matters 

On 13/10/2018 at 15:44, silverden said:

I did explain that it would probably be the same as other VAG cars but it fell on deaf ears !  I've just found this  https://keysinthepost.com/product/skoda-emergency-key-transponder/

It's just what I'm looking for and they get good feed back.  If I can't find somewhere local I might give them a try.

Thanks Silver, useful link.