@Charade

 

As mentioned by @TasMan - the simplest way to check Software version is to install VAG DPF Android app - it will also help you to monitor regens. 

An update now that I've gotten to the end of the first tank of fuel since the software update. MFD calibration hasn't changed: tank average on MFD 2 almost exactly matched the brim-to-brim calculation. Fuel economy on this tank is about in line with what I'd expect for the time of year and the driving I'm doing, perhaps a little bit worse: I had a 200 km motorway round trip in the middle of the tank, and the MFD readout was maybe a little higher than before, but otherwise lots of town driving on cold days. I'm doing another long drive tomorrow so now that I know the MFD is reading true I can get a better sense of things.

 

I've noticed three regens during the 600 km I covered on this tank, which appears to be par for the course going by other accounts. I may buy VAG DPF at some point for curiosity's sake but it's not something I'm losing sleep over.

On 14/01/2019 at 12:46, langers2k said:

 

It basically depends if there was an update for your ECU prior to the emissions fix.

 

Taking the ECU (03L906018C) in my car as an example, there are numerous updates from Skoda including 7100, 9813, 9978, 9979, 9980 and 9981. To revert the fix it's very easy to flash the official 9813 update and you're done.

 

Taking a different ECU (03L906018QM) as an example, Skoda have only released one update which is 9978. This means that there is no official update without the fix. Instead, you're reliant on a tuner having made a backup of the older software to remove the fix.

 

Hello langer,

 

I hope you can help me. Where do you see the different versions of the ecu flash version ? I have a Superb 2.0 tdi CR from 2014, Which AFTER the NOX update look like this:

 

Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 RT    HW: 03L 906 018 MH
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9977  
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001D0012042401080000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018RT 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018RT.rod
   VCID: 0D111F35DC515922AE-8058

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
 

Could you pls. advice which version to go for, that was the latest without the nox update ? Which version should i revert to, to get rid of the nox update ?

 

BR
Mikkel

Looks like there is 5385 and 9977 for the 03L 906 018 RT.

 

Based on this scan, it looks like the older version should be fine with your hardware versions so I'd probably try that.

On 12/01/2019 at 19:20, silver1011 said:

I've had the fix done, my car runs no different. She's old too - 8 years / 160,000 miles.

 

My EGR was playing up, so I cleared the fault, had the fix done and then had the EGR replaced for free under warranty under the Trust Building Measure.

 

Snap ;) Did mine in 2017. Mine's a year older than yours and same mileage now. EGR was playing up, so I got the update done and then the EGR failed completely <24 hours after the update. They had it replaced no questions asked within a day or two.

 

I've done > 40K miles since the update, and the car is still a joy to drive. It does regenerate more frequently, but I've got used to that now. The only thing I'd say is the car computer reports the MPG is 4mpg better than I am actually getting. I calculated real mpg by keeping receipts and noting mileage / calculating mpg for previous tank full at every weekly refill for many months. Almost all was motorway driving 450 miles per week.

 

I do not know whether this mpg is worse than before the update, but my brain likes to tell me it is. So I'm probably paying back the cost of that EGR replacement in fuel now.

I too noticed the additional regeneration's of the DPF, but this did settle down, close to what it was like before.

 

My MPG read-out has always over read vs. manual calculations, but MPG after the EA189 fix / new EGR remained almost identical, perhaps 1-2mpg more, probably due to the freer flowing EGR?

 

I'm pretty sure the early versions of the EA189 emissions fix software were glitchy, and not properly refined, rushed out no doubt.

 

By leaving it a year or two we probably got a much later iteration of the software, once that appears to work very well.

 

Like I said, I'd fully intended to have the EA189 removed after I'd had the new EGR fitted, but saw no point, the car drove exactly as it did before.

Regarding the error in the fuel consumption readout, if you have access to VCDS you can correct this via adaptation. Mine used to be off by about 14 % but  it's spot on now since I corrected it.

Looking for advice on this if anyone could help.

 

My Skoda Rapid 2013 1.6 TDI has not had the software EA189 update yet, my EGR valve failed and now needs replaced.

 

Is it worth having the update done? Will this stop the issue with the EGR in the future or is it going to cause worse/more problems after the update?

16 hours ago, Dogtanian1234 said:

Looking for advice on this if anyone could help.

 

My Skoda Rapid 2013 1.6 TDI has not had the software EA189 update yet, my EGR valve failed and now needs replaced.

 

Is it worth having the update done? Will this stop the issue with the EGR in the future or is it going to cause worse/more problems after the update?

If you're wondering if getting the update done now will get you a replacement under the Trust Building Measure, if a dealer knows the EGR is dead then you won't be entitled to a replacement. The TBM doesn't cover pre-existing faults. The dealer won't even try doing the update if the EGR is faulty: you would need to fix it first.

 

Now there is a but here: if you can get the EGR to work long enough to get into the dealer, get the update done and get out , then you could probably get a replacement under the TBM. A few people here have done this: a search should turn up some posts on the topic.

 

As for the future beyond the update, the EGR and DPF do more work than they did before. If your typical driving involves a lot of short trips, or you're the sort of driver who doesn't exercise the engine fully from time to time, then you could run into problems down the line. Starting from a new EGR valve lessens the possibility of problems there.

10 hours ago, chimaera said:

If you're wondering if getting the update done now will get you a replacement under the Trust Building Measure, if a dealer knows the EGR is dead then you won't be entitled to a replacement. The TBM doesn't cover pre-existing faults. The dealer won't even try doing the update if the EGR is faulty: you would need to fix it first.

 

Now there is a but here: if you can get the EGR to work long enough to get into the dealer, get the update done and get out , then you could probably get a replacement under the TBM. A few people here have done this: a search should turn up some posts on the topic.

 

As for the future beyond the update, the EGR and DPF do more work than they did before. If your typical driving involves a lot of short trips, or you're the sort of driver who doesn't exercise the engine fully from time to time, then you could run into problems down the line. Starting from a new EGR valve lessens the possibility of problems there.

 

I never knew this but unfortunately the engine management light is on constantly and it's in "limp mode" so the dealer will probably know the EGR is toast. I mostly do motorway driving were the car is cruising in 5th gear just below 2000 RPM so not sure if this is enough to stop any further issues with the ERG or would I need to thrash it from time to time to higher revs?

 

I take it reading by your post it's not a good idea to get the update done as the ERG & DPF will work harder and cause more wear so more likely to break down?

 

On 30/11/2019 at 22:04, Dogtanian1234 said:

 

I never knew this but unfortunately the engine management light is on constantly and it's in "limp mode" so the dealer will probably know the EGR is toast. I mostly do motorway driving were the car is cruising in 5th gear just below 2000 RPM so not sure if this is enough to stop any further issues with the ERG or would I need to thrash it from time to time to higher revs?

 

I take it reading by your post it's not a good idea to get the update done as the ERG & DPF will work harder and cause more wear so more likely to break down?

 

 

I was one of those who limped their car onto the dealers forecourt and had the fix done, then took the car back a few days later when the Engine Management Light illuminated and got a brand new EGR fitted for free, under Skoda UK's Trust Building Measure.

 

I had access to a laptop and VCDS so was able to clear the light and fault codes around the corner from the dealer!

 

Perhaps not morally the best thing to do, but financially it saved me the best part of £1,000.

 

Any reduction in long term reliability on the EGR and DPF isn't going to make much difference to a 2013 Rapid, it's almost 7 years old.

1 hour ago, silver1011 said:

 

I was one of those who limped their car onto the dealers forecourt and had the fix done, then took the car back a few days later when the Engine Management Light illuminated and got a brand new EGR fitted for free, under Skoda UK's Trust Building Measure.

 

I had access to a laptop and VCDS so was able to clear the light and fault codes around the corner from the dealer!

 

Perhaps not morally the best thing to do, but financially it saved me the best part of £1,000.

 

Any reduction in long term reliability on the EGR and DPF isn't going to make much difference to a 2013 Rapid, it's almost 7 years old.

 

Didnt know about the Skoda building measure until a few days ago when the car was in the garage getting repaired, just my luck lol. All sorted now (as my post on it) but cost me £710 to get a new ERG so hopefully the EGR & DPF last but cheers for the advice silver101