My 1.5TSI Edition comes as standard with keyless go but, I wondered how secure this system actually is.

This morning I started my car in the drive to defrost the iced up windows. I then wanted to leave the engine running but lock the car and take the keys back indoors.

As I left the vehicle, an amber warning appeared on the dash saying no communication with keys but the engine didn't switch off.

 

Q1   Can you leave the engine running, lock the car and walk away with the keys?

Q2   Is there a distance between the car and the keys at which the engine will immobilise and prevent anyone driving off without the keys 

I am aware that you can always put your keys in an RFID protective pouch.

No, KESSY won't allow you to lock the car with the engine running.

 

Even if it did, if someone wanted to steal an unoccupied car with it's engine running, a locked door isn't going to stop them, they'll just smash a window.

 

Also, even if locked, you'd be on dodgy ground if you had to make an insurance claim.

 

Better to spec the heated windscreen, or use some very luke warm water to melt the ice.

https://www.lv.com/car-insurance/defrosting-cars-are-easy-pickings-for-winter-thieves

I read somewhere, that this is not available in the UK – but it would be the solution for exactly this problem:

 

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-releases/warm-safe-clever-skoda-auxiliary-heating-systems/

Edited 22 January, 20197 yr by Guest

1 hour ago, ronniebarker said:

My 1.5TSI Edition comes as standard with keyless go but, I wondered how secure this system actually is.

This morning I started my car in the drive to defrost the iced up windows. I then wanted to leave the engine running but lock the car and take the keys back indoors.

As I left the vehicle, an amber warning appeared on the dash saying no communication with keys but the engine didn't switch off.

 

Q1   Can you leave the engine running, lock the car and walk away with the keys?

Q2   Is there a distance between the car and the keys at which the engine will immobilise and prevent anyone driving off without the keys 

car will stay running even driveable

If you have started it, anyone can jump in and drive it away.

 

Your only safe options are to stay with it, or keep sturdy garden gates closed.

 

It is actually illegal (and foolhardy) to leave it running unattended on a public road 

 

 

Edited 22 January, 20197 yr by SurreyJohn

I will give you a  cautionary tale not a Skoda but the wife’s work focus a few years back , Daughter drops us of at the pub she drives of to get boy friend and Chinese takeaway when they switch of and get out they can’t lock car No keys still in wife’s hand bag daughter didn’t notice the bongs and dash signs ,

 she had to get taxi to pub and leave boy friend looking after car 

 Daughter now has own car and I won’t by a car with out a heated screen 

 

15 hours ago, ronniebarker said:

I am aware that you can always put your keys in an RFID protective pouch.

Got one of these of ebay for about £4 for the wife Kia Soul and it works a treat, can stand right next to the car with the key in the pouch and it won't open, make the wife sleep much better at night knowing that they can't scan for the key.

 

BTW the Soul does the same if you get out with the key and leave the engine running, lots of bongs and flashing icons on the dash but the engine keeps running !!

Every year i read about fools leaving their cars running on the drive only to find they get stolen, when will people ever learn.......

Thanks for SOME of the replies. I am not stupid and am fully aware of the legal and security implications of leaving my car unattended with the engine running in my driveway.

I did however only ask for the answer to two specific questions and not anything else!!!!!!

Keep calm, your two questions were answered quickly.

 

It shouldn't come as a surprise that the supporting information you provided, which presumably was the reasoning behind your questions, was also commented upon, albeit in some cases, less delicately than it could have been 

 

Edited 23 January, 20197 yr by silver1011

An interesting aside to this:-

 

From Confused,com   Leaving an engine idling is an offence. ... The Act enforces rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states: "You must not leave a vehicle's engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road." Doing this can incur a £20 fixed-penalty fine under the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) Regulations 2002

 

Does this provide a new twist on turning off   'Auto On/Off'??

 

Also reported in the Daily Mail        Driver fined for leaving engine running as car defrosted outside his home ... He was prosecuted under the Road Traffic Act offence of 'quitting' ...

 

I am only aware of 'quitting' as a solicitor friend of mine was prosecuted for it!!!

 

I guess both are only relevant to cars on the public roads, not a driveway.

 

 

On 22/01/2019 at 14:57, silver1011 said:

No, KESSY won't allow you to lock the car with the engine running.

 

I honestly cannot remember if I have changed anything regarding this with VCDS on my Superb or not, but I can certainly lock my car with the engine running.

3 hours ago, JohnD5314 said:

An interesting aside to this:-

 

From Confused,com   Leaving an engine idling is an offence. ... The Act enforces rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states: "You must not leave a vehicle's engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road." Doing this can incur a £20 fixed-penalty fine under the Road Traffic (Vehicle Emissions) Regulations 2002

 

Does this provide a new twist on turning off   'Auto On/Off'??

 

Turning off the stop/start function doesn't prevent the driver from turning off the engine if they suspect they might be controvening rule 123.

 

There are also several influences that determine if the stop/start functions or not, even if turned on, so with stop/start turned on you could still find yourself sitting in the car with the engine "running unnecessarily".

On 22/01/2019 at 16:11, onvo said:

I read somewhere, that this is not available in the UK – but it would be the solution for exactly this problem:

 

https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/press-releases/warm-safe-clever-skoda-auxiliary-heating-systems/

No that's not true I have an edition and that has a heated front screen

Edited 10 March, 20197 yr by Shuttlebasher

17 minutes ago, Shuttlebasher said:

No that's not true I have an edition and that has a heated front screen

 

The linked article is about an auxiliary heating system, not a heated front screen.

From an article on 12th Feb in The Sun online newspaper regarding the increase in relay theft

 

”Skoda said from this year their new keyless car fobs will also have a motion sensor that will prevent the car starting after it has been still for a period of time.”

 

I suppose this will come too late for my Kodiaq waiting to be delivered, so Faraday pouches or a metal tin with lid it is (don’t forget the spare) 

 

See https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8406759/keyless-cars-stolen-in-seconds-legal-gadget/

 

This has been discussed before. 

 

When parked up with the potential for keyless theft just disable kessy.  No need for tin boxes or faraday pouches. 

 

Lock with the keyfob and within 5 seconds touch the door sensor. Kessy is disabled. To then unlock the car you have to press the unlock button on the keyfob

 

Tom

You can lock the car with the engine running, but you have to activate it through VCDS.

2 hours ago, Greenliner1 said:

From an article on 12th Feb in The Sun online newspaper regarding the increase in relay theft

 

”Skoda said from this year their new keyless car fobs will also have a motion sensor that will prevent the car starting after it has been still for a period of time.”

 

I suppose this will come too late for my Kodiaq waiting to be delivered, so Faraday pouches or a metal tin with lid it is (don’t forget the spare) 

 

See https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8406759/keyless-cars-stolen-in-seconds-legal-gadget/

 

Afraid so Greenliner, our Karoq delivered last week doesn’t have any such motion sensor, the key emits a signal every 6 seconds, all day long.

I got 2 of these, they work fine £5 each and free delivery :-

 

https://www.wilcodirect.co.uk/product/gadget-holders/defender-signal-blocker-faraday-bag-black-ss-ot01119/SS-OT01119

I’ve seen the post about disabling the Kessy and will be doing that thanks good suggestion, but if you forget and are unlucky.....

 

The auto industry has been slow to react to this relay crime and they are just catching up. Some may argue if they want it they’ll get it, but don’t make it too easy. Krooklok / Disclock have never had it so good.