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Octavia Estate1.6tdi or 2ltr - Dsg or Manual

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5 minutes ago, Kevx said:

Wow looking at the link, the VRS is out of the question!!!

But it's such a lotta fun, needs new brakes too, wonder why

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  • If going for a dsg I would go for 2.0tdi as the 6 speed dsg is more reliable that the dry 7 speed dsg on the 1.6

  • Had a 2010 1.6tdi manual. 105bhp 5 speed. I believe the year your looking at is 110hp and 6 speed, I may stand corrected.   It averaged 47mpg over 30k odd. It was a fine cruiser but as you'v

  • I've had my 64-plate 2.0TDI manual for nearly a year now and am averaging just over 52mpg.  My daily commute is a 35 mile round trip but in lots of traffic, stop start etc. I did a run from Essex

7 minutes ago, Kevx said:

Wow looking at the link, the VRS is out of the question!!!

 

To be honest I've done similar in the past, ST220 3.0V6 Mondeo and Impreza's on 20k to 25k miles a years then have to drive them very carefully so as not to bankrupt myself.

 

Whatever fun they were supposed to give was totally destroyed trying to get decent economy. And limiting my motorway speed meant they were actually slower than an ecobox.

 

That's the balance we all have to find.

 

If you only do 10k miles a year your take on fuel is different to someone who does 25k miles a year.

52 minutes ago, logiclee said:

 

If you only do 10k miles a year your take on fuel is different to someone who does 25k miles a year.

My take on fuel is different to most people's, my wife & I run our cars from a joint account, we pay in proportionately from our earnings.

 

My wife out earns me 4 to 1 hence, 20mpg life time avg is what I'm trying to acheive 

1 hour ago, themanwithnoaim said:

Hmmmm mid 40mpg, yeah right, I don't granny mine about though

 

http://www.fuelly.com/car/skoda/octavia/2017/themanwithnoaim/656953

Shirley that's an extreme example?

To be fair my mate has a oil burner vrs that is much more refined to drive than mine and does similar mpg. Getting b6 shocks fitted to mine next week so that could make it closer in terms of handling and comfort. Then it's just a map away from being a vrs wannabe.

Just now, themanwithnoaim said:

My take on fuel is different to most people's, my wife & I run our cars from a joint account, we pay in proportionately from our earnings.

 

My wife out earns me 4 to 1 hence, 20mpg life time avg is what I'm trying to acheive 

 

mpg is only one part of the calculation though, I suspect my fuel costs to be higher than yours and I average 50mpg.

 

I've owned vehicles that have averaged 14mpg and many that have averaged below 20mpg.  But then work was 7 miles away.

 

Lee

I'll bring back down to earth with my mostly winter motorway MPG:

 

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Elegance trim; 150hp 2.0TDI EA288; 6-speed DSG DQ250;

Optional extras: Metallic paint; 18inch Golus alloys; Bi-Xenon headlights; Adaptive Cruise Control; Canton speakers; Heated seats;

 

For OP information, I think Elegance trim is known as SE-L in recent years. Standard SE-L is 17inch wheels, so you should get better economy.

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5 hours ago, wyx087 said:

I'll bring back down to earth with my mostly winter motorway MPG:

 

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Elegance trim; 150hp 2.0TDI EA288; 6-speed DSG DQ250;

Optional extras: Metallic paint; 18inch Golus alloys; Bi-Xenon headlights; Adaptive Cruise Control; Canton speakers; Heated seats;

 

For OP information, I think Elegance trim is known as SE-L in recent years. Standard SE-L is 17inch wheels, so you should get better economy.

That looks better, any clutch problems?

Check how much you get reimbursed for mileage, compared to HMRC allowances etc. 

 

The way my company pay, I'm better off with a 2.0TSI than I would be a 1.6TDI, because they pay so much more for petrol and the tax relief available against HMRC allowance isn't enough to balance it out. 

 

Using my 245 mostly for work, my last 10,000 or so miles have averaged 39mpg, mostly A and B roads, cruising along at 50 to 60mph depending on traffic. 

1 hour ago, Kevx said:

That looks better, any clutch problems?

No clutch problem what so ever, it has wet-clutch DQ250 6 speed DSG.

 

When buying at 70k miles, I made sure it had done DSG oil change right on schedule at 40k. I did DSG oil change at 80k bang on schedule. I'm hoping it will give me zero issues for the next 40k miles. All evidence suggest these DQ250 boxes are bullet proof, as long as oil is changed on schedule.

 

But you got to put those cost into your calculations. £190 DSG oil change (at main dealer) per 40k miles => 0.45p per mile additional cost on top of 10p per mile for fuel.

 

2.0 TDI also need to change timing belt + waterpump every 5 years or 140k+ miles. How much do you drive over 5 years? That is a £500 item at main dealer, so you may need to also budget for these and include it in your per mile calculations.

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11 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

6p per mile for fuel.

 

I hate to be picky but we have been discussing fuel costs at some level of detail and going on the figures of 40/50 mpg (petrol/diesel) and 120p 129p cost/l it gives figure of 13.6p and 11.7p per mile.

 

I do agree that there are a number of additional running costs for the tdi that need to be taken into account also.  Stand by my suggestion that a 190tsi is the best option for any mileage unless lugging heavy loads.

Oh gosh, yes. sorry. I got the numbers wrong in my head. I've always pegged it at £6 for my just under 60 miles daily commute, which is around 10p per mile as per your calculation.

 

My spreadsheet, which uses data from Fuelly, which records ALL my fill-up's, tells me:

Over 13,870 miles I've driven, I paid £1,422.95 for diesel, that is £0.103 per mile over last 1.8 years of me owning this Octavia.

 

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1 hour ago, Kenai said:

Check how much you get reimbursed for mileage, compared to HMRC allowances etc. 

 

The way my company pay, I'm better off with a 2.0TSI than I would be a 1.6TDI, because they pay so much more for petrol and the tax relief available against HMRC allowance isn't enough to balance it out. 

 

Using my 245 mostly for work, my last 10,000 or so miles have averaged 39mpg, mostly A and B roads, cruising along at 50 to 60mph depending on traffic. 

I get 45p first 10k and 25p thereafter

25 minutes ago, Kevx said:

I get 45p first 10k and 25p thereafter

If it's equal between fuel types like that then you'll be better off with the TDI imo

2 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

  Stand by my suggestion that a 190tsi is the best option for any mileage unless lugging heavy loads.

 

If I was to buy a new Mk3 a 190tsi would be my first choice.

 

I wouldn't expect for it to be anywhere near the 1.6tdi for economy though.

 

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I'm lucky to get 48 out of my 1.6 DSG and thats on eco mode on a 12 mile A road and motorway commute. I've only had it since October, so I'm hoping it improves when the weather and diesel does.

 

Also, the DQ200 doesn't sound THAT bad: https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/Common-Faults-in-the-7-Speed-DSG-Automatic-Transmission

And for balance, here is the DQ250: https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/6-Speed-DSG-Automatic-Transmission-Faults#

 

Nick

 

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1 hour ago, NikTheGeek said:

I'm lucky to get 48 out of my 1.6 DSG and thats on eco mode on a 12 mile A road and motorway commute. I've only had it since October, so I'm hoping it improves when the weather and diesel does.

 

Also, the DQ200 doesn't sound THAT bad: https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/Common-Faults-in-the-7-Speed-DSG-Automatic-Transmission

And for balance, here is the DQ250: https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/6-Speed-DSG-Automatic-Transmission-Faults#

 

Nick

 

 

That's seems low. I do 60 mile, never use eco, always have AC on, usually have two or more people in the car and through winter use heated front and rear screens, heated mirrors and heated seats. And I still easily get over 50mpg.

A bit slow on the motorway last week doing 60mph ish and managed 65mpg.

 

I wonder if the difference is the distance. 12 miles in winter on a diesel will mean most of that will be with temps lower than optimum.  A 12 mile eachway commute is really TSi territory.

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18 minutes ago, logiclee said:

 

That's seems low. I do 60 mile, never use eco, always have AC on, usually have two or more people in the car and through winter use heated front and rear screens, heated mirrors and heated seats. And I still easily get over 50mpg.

A bit slow on the motorway last week doing 60mph ish and managed 65mpg.

 

I wonder if the difference is the distance. 12 miles in winter on a diesel will mean most of that will be with temps lower than optimum.  A 12 mile eachway commute is really TSi territory.

 

I'm changing jobs in a couple of weeks and will be doing a lot more driving - that's why I got the 1.6. I was still torn between that and the 1.4 converted to LPG, but by the time I'd added in the conversion cost it got pricey and I got a good price on this one.

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What are people's thoughts on Octavia vs Superb. Is the superb worth the extra money?

25 minutes ago, Kevx said:

What are people's thoughts on Octavia vs Superb. Is the superb worth the extra money?

 

Yes

 

As a motorway cruise it's much more refined.

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Hi all, just so I am clear, am I right I need to avoid anything under 2ltr Dsg? (1.6 Dsg has the issues as it's a dry clutch)

On 02/03/2019 at 21:05, Kevx said:

What are people's thoughts on Octavia vs Superb. Is the superb worth the extra money?

Superb anytime, refinement, nicer trim / materials inside, quieter, decent TSi engines including 4x4 & much more space inside. 

 

The only downside for me is that it's too wide for my garage & I'm not keen on keeping any car on the street or drive overnight. 

 

I'm still running my old Superb because I can't convince myself that a Mk.3 Octavia is a suitable replacement.....

Any sensible suggestions?

 

As for DSG's, we've had 5 of the 6-speed SQ250's, still own 3 of them & are very happy. Because our annual mileages are low we get the oil & filter changes done every 4 years, with the older cars we used a good local independent rather than a franchised dealer. 

 

HTH. DC

10 hours ago, Kevx said:

Hi all, just so I am clear, am I right I need to avoid anything under 2ltr Dsg? (1.6 Dsg has the issues as it's a dry clutch)

Yes, that was my understanding when I looked at new cars: get the wet-clutch DSG's, in case of Octavia 3, it is 2.0 TDI.

 

9 hours ago, old newbie2 said:

As for DSG's, we've had 5 of the 6-speed SQ250's, still own 3 of them & are very happy. Because our annual mileages are low we get the oil & filter changes done every 4 years, with the older cars we used a good local independent rather than a franchised dealer. 

Is that a service requirement? Skoda UK only quoted every 40k miles, didn't tell me there is a time period limit.

I've had my 2013 Octavia mkIII 2.0 TDI (manual) for almost a year and love it to bits. 0-60 in 8 seconds, cruises effortlessly at 70mph and returns 60mpg on a regular basis (even more if you drive it carefully). The only bits I don't like: DPF regens, not the most refined, had some trouble with the clutch.

 

As I do high mileage 25k / year, it had to be diesel for me.

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4 hours ago, vRSWitter said:

I've had my 2013 Octavia mkIII 2.0 TDI (manual) for almost a year and love it to bits. 0-60 in 8 seconds, cruises effortlessly at 70mph and returns 60mpg on a regular basis (even more if you drive it carefully). The only bits I don't like: DPF regens, not the most refined, had some trouble with the clutch.

 

As I do high mileage 25k / year, it had to be diesel for me.

What clutch issues?

How much did it cost you?

 

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Just now, Kevx said:

What clutch issues?

How much did it cost you?

 

What are dfg regens?

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