10 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

Depends on your driving style. The quicker down changes in Sport have me favouring Normal.

 

I look at it differently, rather than your thought of suffering all ways in Normal, I find the laziness of Eco and the overly keen Sport too extreme for normal day-to-day commuting.

 

 

I've had five DQ200 DSG's, two DQ250 DSG's and a DL501. 

 

Whoever programs the Sport mode for VAG dual clutch boxes should be sacked.  Some actually holding to near the redline on half throttle and others changing down with a slight press on the throttle when you are sat at just the right revs for maximum torque.

I don't know why they couldn't have done Normal +20% for shift points or something like that.

 

I've had auto's from other manufacturers and Sport is a joy to drive. VAG have got it wrong on every model I've had including the S5.

With my manual 1.5TSI there is little point in it. Just for devilment I used Sport and kept in 4th gear  driving to Sherwood forest on swoopy A roads.

Served as a personal pick me up and the increased speed, only slightly bending the limit, and harder acceleration  was fun for 30 miles or so. The handling and ride impressed.46mpg indicated on the outward journey and more usual 54mpg in eco returning.

10 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

Depends on your driving style. The quicker down changes in Sport have me favouring Normal.

 

I look at it differently, rather than your thought of suffering all ways in Normal, I find the laziness of Eco and the overly keen Sport too extreme for normal day-to-day commuting.

 

As I say, I drive a manual so the style in which it changes gear is down to me.

 

I guess the main noticeable difference for a manual is the throttle response, which if you have self control renders modes other than sport largely pointless then.

 

I largely use mine to commute or ferry the family around at the weekends.  I don't need the quick response most of the time, however it is annoying on those occasions when you want to boot it and think 'this isn't doing what it normally does' then realise you're in eco.   Where as in sport, I'm fairly convinced if you're light on the throttle it makes zero difference to economy.

 

 

I thought I'd hate the fake noise....  It's so subtle that I often don't notice it though, I don't actually mind it at all.  

 

 

I find it easier to drive smoothly in Normal, than either Eco or Sport.

In my VRS, I've it set to individual because as said above, I don't like the pipe in engine noise, but I still want a slightly heavier steering wheel and the moving xenon lights.

 

I wouldn't say I noticed a difference in throttle response between the modes. That's why I got the pedal box.

2 hours ago, silver1011 said:

I find it easier to drive smoothly in Normal, than either Eco or Sport.

I think it depends on your preferences. My Scout's steering is overly light in Eco and Normal, so it was set in Sport the day I took delivery and apart from using off road a few times on snow, it has never been anywhere else. I found Eco wasn't and i have no intention of ever being normal. Ever!

 

Will be interesting to see what works best when my Kodiaq arrives in March next year with its DSG gearbox. From what i have read it may be that individual will be the way to go.

Mine is set to Individual because there is nothing normal about me. Everything is set to Sport except the steering weight which is left in normal because I find the artificial weight is too heavy in Sport and it doesn't add any extra feel during cornering. Unlike most I like the Soundactuator piped in noise into the cabin which adds to the sense of drama driving the petrol Vrs. It's more fake noise in the clattery diesel Vrs.

4 hours ago, logiclee said:

 

 

I've had five DQ200 DSG's, two DQ250 DSG's and a DL501. 

 

Whoever programs the Sport mode for VAG dual clutch boxes should be sacked.  Some actually holding to near the redline on half throttle and others changing down with a slight press on the throttle when you are sat at just the right revs for maximum torque.

I don't know why they couldn't have done Normal +20% for shift points or something like that.

 

I've had auto's from other manufacturers and Sport is a joy to drive. VAG have got it wrong on every model I've had including the S5.

The new DQ380 sport mapping is vastly improved, you can actually live with it on a day to day basis. However they've messed with the gear changes but that's a whole 'nother story....

15 hours ago, Alex-W said:

 

Basically, I leave it in sport all the time now and can't really see any down side of doing so.

Don't run a cold engine in Sport or you **** it very quickly 

 

Eco is a thing, its gotta get into your head & once you've got it, you'll modify your driving style to suit & reap the mpg rewards.

 

I more than most understand, driving style will have a far greater influence than any software modification a manufacturer can make, I simply don't consider fuel efficiency when I'm driving alone

9 minutes ago, themanwithnoaim said:

Don't run a cold engine in Sport or you **** it very quickly 

 

 

 

Why?

 

My understanding is it doesn't actually change the map on the engine, purely dampens throttle response.

 

I'm gentle on the engine while it's cold anyway, so effectively do the same as eco anyway, just by not going full throttle. 

i assumed the comment was a joke..?

Why? 'cos revving the tits off a cold engine is not good for it.

As someone said the DQ380 is better in S-mode but it still has some - what would you call them - deviations from the expected

'Sport' and revving the tits off it are two different things though.

 

I can pop it in eco and hold it to the redline from cold, which obviously would be very bad.

I can run it in sport and upshift nice and early with gentle acceleration while it warms up, giving no more load to the engine than any other mode.

 

Obviously, if it's controlling gear changes too then that's not the case, but in a proper car manual* then I can't see why it would be bad.

 

*Lets see who bites....  

As a manual Scout driver its in Sport or from time to time of-road.  For me Eco is useless as you seem to have to rev the nuts off it when pulling away from a junction otherwise it stalls.

I normally run my manual 1.4TSI ( not a 1.5)  in ECO. I usually drive gently but for overtaking full power is available by flooring the pedal.

The torque is so strong at low revs with a turbo that eco works effortlessly without trying.

Both petrols, but there is so much difference in how they behave between the 1.4 TSI and the 2.0 TSI and a 7 speed Dry and a 7 Speed wet, Apples and Pears really.

2020my coasts in normal mode as well as eco although not as frequently in normal (kodiaq 2.0tsi).

I use normal mode most of the time, just changing into sport when needed for overtaking/giggles. 

Don't really see any discernable mpg difference between eco and normal. 

Edited 7 October, 20196 yr by Gmac983

22 hours ago, gregoir said:

I normally run my manual 1.4TSI ( not a 1.5)  in ECO. I usually drive gently but for overtaking full power is available by flooring the pedal.

The torque is so strong at low revs with a turbo that eco works effortlessly without trying.

 

Exactly what I do as well.